Cloupor mini explodes!!

[flavourtank]

Jan 24, 2015 16:03:02 GMT decoy said:

well it finally turned up from gear best and im off to work with it
erl at 1.3 ohm with vt4 and 16 watts
if i dont post again its killed me

ive got it running at 17w on 0.9ohm with vtc4 since last night and took it to work and its working a dream

[Montana]

Jan 24, 2015 15:41:27 GMT Roger said:

Jan 24, 2015 8:15:58 GMT Montana said:

I apologise now , for not reading the entire thread , but I have a problem with the Cloupor and charging , especailly considering other batteries and charging.

Now , cloupor say , DON'T charge through USB through a PC.Before and with the likes of Ego batteries we know to NOT use USB via a wall adapter ( most Ego battiers don't come with a wall socket ) because of the current output being to high for the battery , now we have a mod that totally reverses this and people wonder why people are getting confused.

I've said this before , but us vapers NEED an industry standard for charging batteries IN THE DEVICE , otherwise we are going to have a lot more accidents like this.Just to add , what if the device hadn't started to vent while being plugged in , but the device was very unstable.It could probably only take one knock in someones pocket for it to start melting and in someones pocket or bag be very dangerous , not to mention very damaging to vaping.



Andy

My original TW Tornados many moons ago were supplied with a mains adapter and usb lead.  OH still uses Ego type batteries which we have always charged using the adaptor/USB charger.  I have never charged using USB through a PC/Laptop and have never had a problem.  Adapter output is 5V 500ma, charger part input is 5V 500ma, output 4.2V 420ma.  That seems balanced to me.  

This is what I'm saying Roger , most , if not all batteries these days don't come with a wall plug ,they just come with a USB cable.

This is how a lot of accidents have happened in the past , with people using the incorrect wall socket for a Ego , for that matter any mod really.They need to only have a 500ma charge , a lot of USB wall plugs have 1-2A charge rate.
For the likes of us that know we should only be using a 500ma charge rate it's ok to find the proper wall plug , but it's NOT ok for new vapers , as they will think any one will do.Add to that the fact that most Ego type batteries don't have any kind of instructional booklet to tell you important things like that.
I think that's a huge reason for a lot of reviewers to keep on about battery safety , especially with the new sub-ohm atty's you can get.Also , there are a lot of B & M stores and internet stores that also don't give you this kind of information.
We as vapers are a target at the moment for ANY kind of headline.When something goes wrong , it makes headlines.When someones phone or laptop does the same thing , it makes a small report well into the paper , if not, at all.
I might be wrong ( I often am ) , but I seem to remember that I was told that it was safe to use a PC USB outlet as it was 500ma and couldn't do any damage to the PC or the Ecig , but with this product we're told the opposite , which I think is what I was getting at in the first place , lol.




Andy




 

[VapingBad]

Jan 24, 2015 16:03:02 GMT decoy said:

well it finally turned up from gear best and im off to work with it
erl at 1.3 ohm with vt4 and 16 watts
if i dont post again its killed me

Mine should b here soon then, I better check the smoke alarm batts

[VapingBad]

Jan 24, 2015 16:23:17 GMT Montana said:

Jan 24, 2015 15:41:27 GMT Roger said:

My original TW Tornados many moons ago were supplied with a mains adapter and usb lead.  OH still uses Ego type batteries which we have always charged using the adaptor/USB charger.  I have never charged using USB through a PC/Laptop and have never had a problem.  Adapter output is 5V 500ma, charger part input is 5V 500ma, output 4.2V 420ma.  That seems balanced to me.  

This is what I'm saying Roger , most , if not all batteries these days don't come with a wall plug ,they just come with a USB cable.

This is how a lot of accidents have happened in the past , with people using the incorrect wall socket for a Ego , for that matter any mod really.They need to only have a 500ma charge , a lot of USB wall plugs have 1-2A charge rate.
For the likes of us that know we should only be using a 500ma charge rate it's ok to find the proper wall plug , but it's NOT ok for new vapers , as they will think any one will do.Add to that the fact that most Ego type batteries don't have any kind of instructional booklet to tell you important things like that.
I think that's a huge reason for a lot of reviewers to keep on about battery safety , especially with the new sub-ohm atty's you can get.Also , there are a lot of B & M stores and internet stores that also don't give you this kind of information.
We as vapers are a target at the moment for ANY kind of headline.When something goes wrong , it makes headlines.When someones phone or laptop does the same thing , it makes a small report well into the paper , if not, at all.
I might be wrong ( I often am ) , but I seem to remember that I was told that it was safe to use a PC USB outlet as it was 500ma and couldn't do any damage to the PC or the Ecig , but with this product we're told the opposite , which I think is what I was getting at in the first place , lol.




Andy




 

We are just in the process of posting a guide and this has been covered link

[Roger]

Deleted, as it isn't really worth it.

[enagee]

I would not recommend Cloupor products to anyone unless they have a death wish.
I have/had a T5 that is burnt out and that is without the firmware update.
Cloupor make really fantastic looking mods but skimp on the internals.
As i am sure you all know never leave them on charge unattended but also never never never leave the battery in them either.
Mine decided to spontaneously combust when it was tuned off luckily i was near by when it did.
Cloupor customer services are a joke.

[Montana]

Jan 24, 2015 16:39:12 GMT VapingBad said:

Jan 24, 2015 16:23:17 GMT Montana said:

This is what I'm saying Roger , most , if not all batteries these days don't come with a wall plug ,they just come with a USB cable.

This is how a lot of accidents have happened in the past , with people using the incorrect wall socket for a Ego , for that matter any mod really.They need to only have a 500ma charge , a lot of USB wall plugs have 1-2A charge rate.
For the likes of us that know we should only be using a 500ma charge rate it's ok to find the proper wall plug , but it's NOT ok for new vapers , as they will think any one will do.Add to that the fact that most Ego type batteries don't have any kind of instructional booklet to tell you important things like that.
I think that's a huge reason for a lot of reviewers to keep on about battery safety , especially with the new sub-ohm atty's you can get.Also , there are a lot of B & M stores and internet stores that also don't give you this kind of information.
We as vapers are a target at the moment for ANY kind of headline.When something goes wrong , it makes headlines.When someones phone or laptop does the same thing , it makes a small report well into the paper , if not, at all.
I might be wrong ( I often am ) , but I seem to remember that I was told that it was safe to use a PC USB outlet as it was 500ma and couldn't do any damage to the PC or the Ecig , but with this product we're told the opposite , which I think is what I was getting at in the first place , lol.




Andy




 

We are just in the process of posting a guide and this has been covered link

Thanks for that VapingBad , I've had a quick look through and it looks very comprehensive and a "Must Read" for new and experienced vapers alike.


Roger , my post was not meant to be patronising in any way, shape or form.I was basically saying that you were lucky that when you got your Tornado that you got a wall charger, so you know that your going to be safe.I've just had a look at TW and with their Tornado kits , they now don't supply a wall charger , which I think is a mistake.

The reason whyI mentioned charge rates is because of the amount of new vapers that just use the wall plug that they already have and seeing as a LOT of people have an Iphone or Ipad , they just use that and we all know that an Iphone wall plug delivers 1A and an Ipad charger delivers 2A.

Again, sorry for my previous post to seem patronising, it wasn't the way it was meant.



Andy

[Greg]

Jan 24, 2015 17:02:07 GMT Montana said:

Jan 24, 2015 16:39:12 GMT VapingBad said:

We are just in the process of posting a guide and this has been covered link

Thanks for that VapingBad , I've had a quick look through and it looks very comprehensive and a "Must Read" for new and experienced vapers alike.


Roger , my post was not meant to be patronising in any way, shape or form.I was basically saying that you were lucky that when you got your Tornado that you got a wall charger, so you know that your going to be safe.I've just had a look at TW and with their Tornado kits , they now don't supply a wall charger , which I think is a mistake.

The reason whyI mentioned charge rates is because of the amount of new vapers that just use the wall plug that they already have and seeing as a LOT of people have an Iphone or Ipad , they just use that and we all know that an Iphone wall plug delivers 1A and an Ipad charger delivers 2A.

Again, sorry for my previous post to seem patronising, it wasn't the way it was meant.



Andy

I use any old wall plug as long as output voltage is correct. Remember the wall plug is a power supply not a charger, the charger is elsewhere either in the device or the usb lead in the case of an eGo charger.
The load will only take what the charger can output so the capability of the the power source is not really relevant. The caveat of course is if you buy a cheap charger / device and the charger is faulty then the power supply can do some damage.
For me buy quality components and you can't go to far wrong and if in doubt read VapingBad's guide 

[Roger]

Jan 24, 2015 17:02:07 GMT Montana said:

Jan 24, 2015 16:39:12 GMT VapingBad said:

We are just in the process of posting a guide and this has been covered link

Thanks for that VapingBad , I've had a quick look through and it looks very comprehensive and a "Must Read" for new and experienced vapers alike.


Roger , my post was not meant to be patronising in any way, shape or form.I was basically saying that you were lucky that when you got your Tornado that you got a wall charger, so you know that your going to be safe.I've just had a look at TW and with their Tornado kits , they now don't supply a wall charger , which I think is a mistake.

The reason whyI mentioned charge rates is because of the amount of new vapers that just use the wall plug that they already have and seeing as a LOT of people have an Iphone or Ipad , they just use that and we all know that an Iphone wall plug delivers 1A and an Ipad charger delivers 2A.

Again, sorry for my previous post to seem patronising, it wasn't the way it was meant.



Andy

Montana  It was nearly 4 years ago now!!!! There wasn't that many suppliers around then.  Anyway I did not get a wall charger, I got a USB charger and a mains adapter.  I've deleted the comment about your post as it was a bit petty and not worth falling out over.  Your point about 'I' products is fair, especially as an awful lot of of new mods have integrated charging, with often no info about what they can take.

[flavourtank]

When I first got my tw kit it didnt come will wall charger, and I wasnt told the facts about using any old wall charger which now I think about it, it is pretty poor from a vendor.

[pfaber11]

I was under the impression you could indeed safely use a 1amp or even a 2amp usb wall socket to charge an ego battery and I have for years with no problem. Really need to talk to someone who is qualified in electronics.. I think it's ok though.

[VapingBad]

Jan 24, 2015 18:08:55 GMT pfaber11 said:

I was under the impression you could indeed safely use a 1amp or even a 2amp usb wall socket to charge an ego battery and I have for years with no problem. Really need to talk to someone who is qualified in electronics.. I think it's ok though.

We are just in the process of posting a guide and this has been covered link

[nick777]

I have had mine for 2 weeks now (silver)no issues as yet I did decide from day one not to use the pass through charger and always take the battery out at night I also made sure I got good quality batteries from torchy

[dreamylittledream]

Cloupor mini watch...day 14...still not blown up

[Deleted]

White elephant in the room....?

please no I do not want Usb wall sockets from any company in vaping, a bit of plastic melting is one thing, 240v coming through a usb lead is another, you really want these companies making sockets that plugs into 240volts., I dont. Google "faulty usb charger" to see what kills, this not vapng related, just cheap USB chargers in general. Also let's be real here we are buying *cheap Chinese goods with questionable OC. Electrics burning/smoking do not cause fatally, well unless you're elderly or have other health issues, the fire they start does, read vaping bads guide with regards to keepng away from flammable objects and correct charging etc. and if it gets hot/smokes in hand/pocket then dispose of quickly, be it back off garden, out the window , whatever...!

Mine was on my door step Saturday,i have tested it by sticking in a battery and going back out drinking again, I'm still alive, just about....! It's pulling .45amps while charging as I type and I quite like the device to be honest, will be using often but will be watching it and this thread and if clouper needs some more Kicking up the butt then this thread needs to carry on. Not sure if this is a bad batch with poor QC or a design flaw yet and yes I can understand some ordering a another device but this does not eliminate the caution required to safety as clouper may well be selling 100 of these to the one you're buying.  

*cheap Chinese - I have owned a £150 USA device that has been more dangerous that anything I have read in this thread.

Ripshod VapingBad when you guys going work out where I need to stick some gafa tape...vaping with oven gloves on is not great...ha ha.