1st mix; okay, but bit nic sick

[kittyvape]

Hiya 

I used the eJuice Me Up calculator, first to make 5ml of Capella Double Chocolate, which I've not tried, then to make 5ml of Capella Boston Mud Pie ... had noticed someone saying they mix that and use it immediately, as the flavour reduces with time, so I tried it out. The nic seems a little strong, and the flavour good but slightly too soft. I used the below amounts. A little worried about the nic sick. Had very bad dose of that when VG 7.2% Nicotine order arrived and the bottle cap had been loose, covering all of the order ... I hadn't realised about toxicity for 10 minutes while cleaning up, as I'd actually ordered normal VG and the company had sent VG Nicotine instead, and I didn't check labels. Feeling a little of that nic sick now, and am surprised, as I was really careful about amounts. Maybe should up mixture to PG 70/VG 30 for flavour too. If amounts below seem right, might it be that not enough flavour drops and ratio just didn't dilute the nic quite enough as well (could feel the nic 'burn' a bit, which I don't in shop bought 24mg juices)? (only 3 weeks into vaping, lol, so apologies for any goofy questions!) 

24mg

PG 60/VG 40

Nic 1.67 ml (33 drops) 33.4% of total

PG 2.25 ml (45 drops) 45% of total

VG 0.3 ml (7 drops) 6.6% of total

FLAVOUR 0.75 (15 drops) 15% of total

[lairey]

Please get some syringes and measure in ml, not drops kittyvape. EVERY dropper will be a slightly different size, so you will never get accurate measurements using drops instead of ml. Apologies if I have misunderstood the above and you did use mls.

Did you want to make 24mg juice? As with 33% nic base, that is what you'll have... If you did use drops, it could potentially be significantly stronger than 24mg...

[igual]

Apr 8, 2015 21:59:47 GMT lairey said:

Please get some syringes and measure in ml, not drops kittyvape. EVERY dropper will be a slightly different size, so you will never get accurate measurements using drops instead of ml. Apologies if I have misunderstood the above and you did use mls.

Did you want to make 24mg juice? As with 33% nic base, that is what you'll have... If you did use drops, it could potentially be significantly stronger than 24mg...

Agree 100% with what lairy has said.

[kittyvape]

Apr 8, 2015 21:59:47 GMT lairey said:

Please get some syringes and measure in ml, not drops kittyvape. EVERY dropper will be a slightly different size, so you will never get accurate measurements using drops instead of ml. Apologies if I have misunderstood the above and you did use mls.

Did you want to make 24mg juice? As with 33% nic base, that is what you'll have... If you did use drops, it could potentially be significantly stronger than 24mg...

Thanks lairey   No worries; I'd used mls as I had a little syringe, and was excited to try. Jane's kindly sent me some syringes, but I couldn't resist trying before they arrive, lol. Had been worrying incase I'd not done the amounts quite right, even though I was really careful. Yes, I wanted to make 24mg; glad it sounds like I used the right numbers, *phew*. Thanks for advice. 

[kittyvape]

Apr 8, 2015 22:09:33 GMT igual said:

Apr 8, 2015 21:59:47 GMT lairey said:

Please get some syringes and measure in ml, not drops kittyvape. EVERY dropper will be a slightly different size, so you will never get accurate measurements using drops instead of ml. Apologies if I have misunderstood the above and you did use mls.

Did you want to make 24mg juice? As with 33% nic base, that is what you'll have... If you did use drops, it could potentially be significantly stronger than 24mg...

Agree 100% with what lairy has said.

Thanks igual 

[lairey]

Apr 8, 2015 22:13:54 GMT kittyvape said:

Apr 8, 2015 21:59:47 GMT lairey said:

Please get some syringes and measure in ml, not drops kittyvape. EVERY dropper will be a slightly different size, so you will never get accurate measurements using drops instead of ml. Apologies if I have misunderstood the above and you did use mls.

Did you want to make 24mg juice? As with 33% nic base, that is what you'll have... If you did use drops, it could potentially be significantly stronger than 24mg...

Thanks lairey   No worries; I'd used mls as I had a little syringe, and was excited to try. Jane's kindly sent me some syringes, but I couldn't resist trying before they arrive, lol. Had been worrying incase I'd not done the amounts quite right, even though I was really careful. Yes, I wanted to make 24mg; glad it sounds like I used the right numbers, *phew*. Thanks for advice. 

What are you vaping the juice in and on and at what power?  24mg may be a little too high for you if it's making you a little light headed and nauseous... the nic level won't change with steeping, unless you didn't give the bottle a good enough shake and you managed to vape some with more nic in it if it hadn't mixed sufficiently...  trying not to sound condescending in any way, just trying to get to the bottom of your problem for you  

[lisburnvapes]

I think people need to remember that nicotine is a poison before they embark on half cocked mixing adventures, just my opinion

[Deleted]

I agree with lairey and igual and anyone else who posts before the time I type this. Saves editing lol

Plus sometimes calculators differ in drops per ml count 30 25 and 20 so like lairey and igual have said forget the drop count and use syringes for ml measurements..

Best of luck with mixing Kitty.

[kittyvape]

Apr 8, 2015 22:19:54 GMT lairey said:

Apr 8, 2015 22:13:54 GMT kittyvape said:

Thanks lairey   No worries; I'd used mls as I had a little syringe, and was excited to try. Jane's kindly sent me some syringes, but I couldn't resist trying before they arrive, lol. Had been worrying incase I'd not done the amounts quite right, even though I was really careful. Yes, I wanted to make 24mg; glad it sounds like I used the right numbers, *phew*. Thanks for advice. 

What are you vaping the juice in and on and at what power?  24mg may be a little too high for you if it's making you a little light headed and nauseous... the nic level won't change with steeping, unless you didn't give the bottle a good enough shake and you managed to vape some with more nic in it if it hadn't mixed sufficiently...  trying not to sound condescending in any way, just trying to get to the bottom of your problem for you  

Thank you lairey   No worries at all; with being totally new to this, and vaping, I really appreciate your advice. I'm using a mini iStick 10w at 5v, and iStick 50w at around 13w. Nano has Mint Chocolate in, so I used the new Aerotank on both. Seems to burn at any higher than 13w on the iStick 50w; really foul if higher, and a shame, as not much vapour or flavour (intend to add more flavour in other mixings anyway, as I like a lot of strong flavour). I'm good with the 24mg shop-bought, so it must be that I may have accidentally added an extra couple of drops of nicotine? Had given bottles a shake, but maybe immediately vaping the Boston Mud Pie wasn't the best thing to do, as it may not have settled. Have just chanced another try, and it may have settled a tiny bit, but I can only take a few draws and the nic is getting a bit much. Maybe if I aim for 20mg, it'll be better, and able to use it freely, rather than little draws occasionally ... the VG 7.2% Nicotine was from Vampire Vape. I don't know if that makes any difference. 

[kittyvape]

Apr 8, 2015 22:44:43 GMT lisburnvapes said:

I think people need to remember that nicotine is a poison before they embark on half cocked mixing adventures, just my opinion

I followed all of the guidance, using the right eJuice me up calculator and being really careful.

[kittyvape]

Apr 8, 2015 22:47:33 GMT stamina said:

I agree with lairey and igual and anyone else who posts before the time I type this. Saves editing lol

Plus sometimes calculators differ in drops per ml count 30 25 and 20 so like lairey and igual have said forget the drop count and use syringes for ml measurements..

Best of luck with mixing Kitty.

Thanks stamina   Thanks for good wishes. I had followed the ml numbers for VG/PG/nic, but the drop count for flavour. Must have just overfilled syringe by a drop or two of nic possibly. 

[Perpetua]

Apr 9, 2015 0:54:45 GMT kittyvape said:

 Had given bottles a shake, but maybe immediately vaping the Boston Mud Pie wasn't the best thing to do, as it may not have settled. Have just chanced another try, and it may have settled a tiny bit, but I can only take a few draws and the nic is getting a bit much. Maybe if I aim for 20mg, it'll be better, and able to use it freely, rather than little draws occasionally ...

I'd try mixing at 18mg myself kittyvape and just keep a small stock of 24mg eliquid in, for when you feel the need for a more intense nicotine hit. If you're wanting to ' chain vape ' then a lower strength will be more forgiving, that you'll notice less.

There aren't many flavours that you can use immediately, most benefit from a little steeping/blending time to be at their nicest - even if you've bought freshly mixed eliquid from a Vendor, it's been mixed for a couple of days at least.

[charliehorse]

Edited (well, deleted really) as I read the post wrong

[igual]

7.2mg I think she said.

Also might be worth mixing in a bigger batch as trying to make 5 mil batches will never be that accurate as you end up with fractional measurements.
If your useing an aerotank might be worth getting a unicoil from virtual vape.
This will give you a nice vape than the stock coils and can be rewicked multiple times.
I noticed your useing the volt reading.
Might be easier to use watts on istick click 3 times.

For mixing I use a 1 mil syringe a 2.5 mil and a 10 mil all with widebore needles

[Deleted]

Yeah igual kittyvape has a few 1 ml syringes coming from me (royal fail pending )

Ditto what everyone else has said about mls rather than drops and also try making a min of 10-15ml when experimenting. remember baby wipes if you get it over your hands - easy and quick way to get it off . Cheap as chips too (I get mine from savers - one packet lasts ages!!!!)

Have you googled nic OD kittyvape? Just for symptoms

what I have done with nic OD in the past

Up the water intake (find it screws your blood sugar first - yes this is the time you are allowed to have strawberry milk )

Don't vape for 2 hours!

Next two hours minimal vape

Jobs a good one.

Nic kills in 4 hours if it does kill. Half life is 2 hours

Worth knowing