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Post by tim on Jul 21, 2015 20:44:52 GMT
I love low ohm kanthal builds too....but TC is good for a few things. You can set it to not burn juice.......or at least not caramelise the sugars too badly. So that can make some juices taste better.............and coils take longer to get gunked so last longer. Batteries last longer too. In VW/VV mode.......the watts you're at is constant all the time you press the button. IN TC mode it uses the watts to hit the temp you set...........then backs the wattage off just to maintain that temp. Where TC really wins is in tanks which can be a PITA to rebuild if you accidentally put too many watts through them and either kill the coil or burn the wicking so bad you have to redo it anyway. TC isn't a passing fad........and will probably be a requirement if the TPD comes into full effect without amendments. Get on board Greg ........it's here and it's staying ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ WOT kreed SAYS!
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Post by Greg on Jul 21, 2015 20:45:39 GMT
I love low ohm kanthal builds too....but TC is good for a few things. You can set it to not burn juice.......or at least not caramelise the sugars too badly. So that can make some juices taste better.............and coils take longer to get gunked so last longer. Batteries last longer too. In VW/VV mode.......the watts you're at is constant all the time you press the button. IN TC mode it uses the watts to hit the temp you set...........then backs the wattage off just to maintain that temp. Where TC really wins is in tanks which can be a PITA to rebuild if you accidentally put too many watts through them and either kill the coil or burn the wicking so bad you have to redo it anyway. TC isn't a passing fad........and will probably be a requirement if the TPD comes into full effect without amendments. Get on board Greg ........it's here and it's staying I've tried it mate and it does nothing for me, I much prefer kanthal and cotton. I'm happy for those who like it but it's not for me. Believe me it is a fad, let's review this statement in 12 months
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2015 20:47:03 GMT
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Post by tim on Jul 21, 2015 20:48:35 GMT
I love low ohm kanthal builds too....but TC is good for a few things. You can set it to not burn juice.......or at least not caramelise the sugars too badly. So that can make some juices taste better.............and coils take longer to get gunked so last longer. Batteries last longer too. In VW/VV mode.......the watts you're at is constant all the time you press the button. IN TC mode it uses the watts to hit the temp you set...........then backs the wattage off just to maintain that temp. Where TC really wins is in tanks which can be a PITA to rebuild if you accidentally put too many watts through them and either kill the coil or burn the wicking so bad you have to redo it anyway. TC isn't a passing fad........and will probably be a requirement if the TPD comes into full effect without amendments. Get on board Greg ........it's here and it's staying I've tried it mate and it does nothing for me, I much prefer kanthal and cotton. I'm happy for those who like it but it's not for me. Believe me it is a fad, let's review this statement in 12 months Hat, knife and fork?
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Post by VapingBad on Jul 21, 2015 20:49:04 GMT
People were dismissive of variable watts
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Post by tim on Jul 21, 2015 20:50:10 GMT
People were dismissive of variable watts
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Post by Greg on Jul 21, 2015 20:50:07 GMT
I've tried it mate and it does nothing for me, I much prefer kanthal and cotton. I'm happy for those who like it but it's not for me. Believe me it is a fad, let's review this statement in 12 months Hat, knife and fork? Stone scissors paper
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Post by tim on Jul 21, 2015 20:50:49 GMT
Stone scissors paper
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Post by Greg on Jul 21, 2015 20:52:12 GMT
People were dismissive of variable watts Not I, I thought it was the best thing since sliced bread. And I'm not being dismissive of TC, as I said if it works for some that's great. It's just not for me.
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Post by robby on Jul 21, 2015 21:45:42 GMT
The dry cotton burn/char test is the only guarantee that a mod controls temperature predictably. I think it may well be a requirement in the future via the powers that be and probably quite rightly. It is the only measurable thing that we have as a calibration/reference point that anyone can use and allow for with different mods. Personally I cant see any other way of doing it. If a mod is not charing dry cotton at a displayed 600F then the coil simply cant be at 600F. You cant cheat the laws of physics.
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Post by VapingBad on Jul 21, 2015 21:56:19 GMT
The dry cotton burn/char test is the only guarantee that a mod controls temperature predictably. I think it may well be a requirement in the future via the powers that be and probably quite rightly. It is the only measurable thing that we have as a calibration/reference point that anyone can use and allow for with different mods. Personally I cant see any other way of doing it. If a mod is not charing dry cotton at a displayed 600F then the coil simply cant be at 600F. You cant cheat the laws of physics. Yep, and it is cheap, easy and repeatable for anyone to do with no special equipment whatsoever. Would be nice to find some commonly available things we could use for say 50 F lower and 50 F higher than cotton, but I agree it's the best we have and are ever likely to have for the vaper without a physics lab.
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Post by tim on Jul 21, 2015 22:07:24 GMT
The dry cotton burn/char test is the only guarantee that a mod controls temperature predictably. I think it may well be a requirement in the future via the powers that be and probably quite rightly. It is the only measurable thing that we have as a calibration/reference point that anyone can use and allow for with different mods. Personally I cant see any other way of doing it. If a mod is not charing dry cotton at a displayed 600F then the coil simply cant be at 600F. You cant cheat the laws of physics. I don't disagree with you robby, all I'm trying to say is, temp control is safe. ie, safer than using a mech. I think that that all the technical stuff is too much for a lot of regular vapers, who are more likely to use a mech than a TC device if they want a better experience, as they are cheaper. I would prefer they tried a TC mod, for safety reasons. I am not arguing with the concept of TC. I just want people to try a better vape which has built in safety. Edit: I didn't do a 10 sec burn without airflow, just no juice. I wanted to know if it would burn the wick if I ran dry.
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Post by robby on Jul 21, 2015 22:14:28 GMT
Even if it is just used for detecting an imminent dry coil it`s a good thing, spent the best part of 50 years taking all sorts of crap into my lungs, TC will cut that out entirely if used correctly
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Post by VapingBad on Jul 21, 2015 22:14:40 GMT
I think the problem, if there is one tim is people feeling them need to understand the details to benefit. Many of us started driving when you could easily understand how most of the bits on a car worked, that percentage is a lot lower now as there is far more tech in cars, but we still drive. Temp limiting - anti locking breaks, don't absolutely need either or need to understand them to benefit. Doesn't mean you shouldn't experiment or try to understand it better, just that is hobbiest territory and an optional extra.
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Post by tim on Jul 21, 2015 22:32:51 GMT
I think the problem, if there is one tim is people feeling them need to understand the details to benefit. Many of us started driving when you could easily understand how most of the bits on a car worked, that percentage is a lot lower now as there is far more tech in cars, but we still drive. Temp limiting - anti locking breaks, don't absolutely need either or need to understand them to benefit. Doesn't mean you shouldn't experiment or try to understand it better, just that is hobbiest territory and an optional extra. You are maybe right VB. TC is a bit like having something you don't need. I just wanted to assure people that it is not a demon that you need a physics degree to use.
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