NHS to offer e-cigarettes on prescription

[Edge]

Big T and Pharma have no interest in vapers toys.
Box mods, tube mods, larger atties are all safe.
Big T and Pharma want the cigalike market. If/when they get approval for the new vaper cigalike stop smoking kit they will be happy to leave others alone.
Cigalike on prescription is a wet dream for Big T and Pharma, they make billions on patches/gum etc add false cigs to that and everything is covered.
As soon as they 'prove' that they are safe and help smokers stop they will sit back and count their money and leave us in peace.

Its all a money making game.

[prr]

I have a split opinion on this, I have listened to the articles on the radio and there was a half hour discussion on five live this morning.

Firstly I am delighted with the positivity of the report and general flavour of the subsequent conversations. What really concerns me is the talk of prescription ecigs, because they will be approved and regulated and from there it is only a very short step to legislate the only usage of ecigs are those that are approved and regulated.

However at least the reporting was objective and honest for once!

[toots]

Aug 19, 2015 12:54:04 GMT prr said:

However at least the reporting was objective and honest for once!

Yeah and all the anti's will come out of the woodwork tomorrow watch this space

[Ripshod]

If e-cigs are regulated as medical devices, as the reports suggest, it'll still be the death of legal vaping as we know it.

[Deleted]

I honestly believe the above is their plan sadly.

[GunJack]

Aug 19, 2015 13:14:39 GMT Ripshod said:

If e-cigs are regulated as medical devices, as the reports suggest, it'll still be the death of legal vaping as we know it.

Even the TPD doesnt need that, but if they are to be prescribed then the nasty little cigalikes will need to be med-reg'd, that was always the case....

No requirement for med regs on all other devices, but then threr are the other regs about juice, tank sizes, etc to contend with.....leak proof refilling, anyone?

[MRS SLEEPY]

I think we will be the killing of us as vapers. If requirement of meds is needed. I don't want to go to docs, to be prescribed a rubbish Ecig.

[Frogster (The Alchemist)]

Following on from the above.....

[reefcat]

We all talk about the evils of the Big T cigalikes, BUT how many of you started on a cigalike? I remember buying my Skycig pack and thinking it was quite dinky at the time. We all now know how poor they are compared to "proper" vaping kit, but I suspect that they are the gateway into vaping for many smokers looking to quit.

Sure I saw some US statistics suggesting that 44% of all Ecig sales in the US were cigalikes, and to be honest it wouldn't surprise me to see a similar percentage for the UK. So whilst I'm sure we'd all agree that they are crap compared to a good dripper on a TC mod, many existing smokers wouldn't be able to make that leap straight away.

So IMHO I think they have a place as a stepping stone. Our many vaping reviewers should be looking at them and passing comment, they should be criticized, their flavours should be improved, and with some improvement they might be useful as a starter.

[MRS SLEEPY]

Aug 19, 2015 22:06:34 GMT reefcat said:

We all talk about the evils of the Big T cigalikes, BUT how many of you started on a cigalike? I remember buying my Skycig pack and thinking it was quite dinky at the time. We all now know how poor they are compared to "proper" vaping kit, but I suspect that they are the gateway into vaping for many smokers looking to quit.

Sure I saw some US statistics suggesting that 44% of all Ecig sales in the US were cigalikes, and to be honest it wouldn't surprise me to see a similar percentage for the UK. So whilst I'm sure we'd all agree that they are crap compared to a good dripper on a TC mod, many existing smokers wouldn't be able to make that leap straight away.

So IMHO I think they have a place as a stepping stone. Our many vaping reviewers should be looking at them and passing comment, they should be criticized, their flavours should be improved, and with some improvement they might be useful as a starter.

Cigalike's  not bad for starter. BUT when a heavy smoker not that good. cost to much. Even if  doc prescribe it to much to pay ,to keep off the fags.

[snow]

Aug 19, 2015 22:06:34 GMT reefcat said:

We all talk about the evils of the Big T cigalikes, BUT how many of you started on a cigalike? I remember buying my Skycig pack and thinking it was quite dinky at the time. We all now know how poor they are compared to "proper" vaping kit, but I suspect that they are the gateway into vaping for many smokers looking to quit.

Sure I saw some US statistics suggesting that 44% of all Ecig sales in the US were cigalikes, and to be honest it wouldn't surprise me to see a similar percentage for the UK. So whilst I'm sure we'd all agree that they are crap compared to a good dripper on a TC mod, many existing smokers wouldn't be able to make that leap straight away.

So IMHO I think they have a place as a stepping stone. Our many vaping reviewers should be looking at them and passing comment, they should be criticized, their flavours should be improved, and with some improvement they might be useful as a starter.

I was using cigalikes now and again for a year or so but only as a means to have a nicotine fix where I couldn't smoke so a few quick puffs in the loo or an out of the way corner and I was good to go for an hour or so, but thats ALL I ever used them for, prior to cigalikes I used a nicorette inhaler for the same purpose, neither one of them in any way helped me to reduce let alone quit smoking so as a gateway to quitting they didn't really work for me, same as the patches I only bought to use if I was flying somewhere. Compare that to my first "next gen" kit of a bog standard ego with a smok clearomiser and some hangsen e-liquid and within 24 hours of purchase I had reduced from around 40 a day to barely 5 or 6 within 2 or 3 days I had given up the stinkies completely and haven't touched one since. It will very much depend on what kind of cigalike device they may decide to "prescribe" if its anything like the 10 Motives that I used then it may not be as successful as it could be if people are given the right information and a choice of devices etc.   

[MRS SLEEPY]

Aug 19, 2015 23:01:12 GMT snow said:

Aug 19, 2015 22:06:34 GMT reefcat said:

We all talk about the evils of the Big T cigalikes, BUT how many of you started on a cigalike? I remember buying my Skycig pack and thinking it was quite dinky at the time. We all now know how poor they are compared to "proper" vaping kit, but I suspect that they are the gateway into vaping for many smokers looking to quit.

Sure I saw some US statistics suggesting that 44% of all Ecig sales in the US were cigalikes, and to be honest it wouldn't surprise me to see a similar percentage for the UK. So whilst I'm sure we'd all agree that they are crap compared to a good dripper on a TC mod, many existing smokers wouldn't be able to make that leap straight away.

So IMHO I think they have a place as a stepping stone. Our many vaping reviewers should be looking at them and passing comment, they should be criticized, their flavours should be improved, and with some improvement they might be useful as a starter.

I was using cigalikes now and again for a year or so but only as a means to have a nicotine fix where I couldn't smoke so a few quick puffs in the loo or an out of the way corner and I was good to go for an hour or so, but thats ALL I ever used them for, prior to cigalikes I used a nicorette inhaler for the same purpose, neither one of them in any way helped me to reduce let alone quit smoking so as a gateway to quitting they didn't really work for me, same as the patches I only bought to use if I was flying somewhere. Compare that to my first "next gen" kit of a bog standard ego with a smok clearomiser and some hangsen e-liquid and within 24 hours of purchase I had reduced from around 40 a day to barely 5 or 6 within 2 or 3 days I had given up the stinkies completely and haven't touched one since. It will very much depend on what kind of cigalike device they may decide to "prescribe" if its anything like the 10 Motives that I used then it may not be as successful as it could be if people are given the right information and a choice of devices etc.   

As you said Snow , patches and cigalikes, don't do the trick. for everyone. It takes time and help to get on the right track, to help.

[X&Y]

Quick in and out.

Should E-Cigarettes be made available on the NHS/prescription?

NO!

It's a lifestyle choice.

If you can't afford it, then don't do it.

My lifestyle choices haven't/shouldn't

Been/be inflicted on others.

Just my two penneth.

[buggritt]

By that criteria millions would not have medical treatment. Playing sport, a choice so no A&E. Sit on you bum all your life, no heart treatment. Overweight, no diabetes treatment.
Still agree with you though. Vaping is cheaper than smoking, so can be afforded without my contribution.

[qsplan]

Just read an interesting article... It's a Press Release, on 19/08/2015 from PHE...

E-cigarettes around 95% less harmful than tobacco