Twin 18650 mod with at least 120w - hit me!!

[Tom]

[SteveF]

Sept 29, 2015 20:07:42 GMT alexthebear said:

chykensa I'm going to watch this very closely as I am in the exact situation myself, I'm not one for keeping up with the Jones' but I do really need a bigger mod, my 30w istick is dying half way through the day at the moment which is getting annoying.

I also have a uwell crown on order so would like to put it to good use once it turns up

I like the look of the xcube but it is huge! Definitely not pocket friendly in my mind....

The search goes on

I've also got an IPV D2 (another late night gearbest moment ), with ametal battery cover it actually feels more solid than the 4s. Much more daily user friendly than a dual 18650 mod and you can swap out the battery or charge in-situ.
 I took it to work today and wound up the smokers chuffing away at a mutation x clone with a pair of claptons at 50w. Todays breaks totalled around 2 hours plus using it on the drive with a tank. Had about 50% battery left before I screwed the RDA back on.

[lairey]

Another vote for the Sigelei. I have the original non-TC 150w and it's a great work horse. It has been in constant daily use since I got it a couple of months ago and despite suffering a fair amount of abuse (I'm well known for my clumsiness) it's not missed a beat. The TC version feels even better quality, quite hefty, but with a really nice rubberised type finish. As with all the Sig boxes, it comes with a silicon sleeve, and unusually, this time round, it's not too short.

Out of all of the different mods we have sold in the shop since I started, the Sigelei's have had the lowest return rate. In fact, I can't recall us ever having one of either versions of the 150's returned.

We have stopped stocking Smok products completely, due the the really high failure/return rate.

I can't comment on the IPVs as we have never stocked them. I do have an IPV Mini v2 and the build quality of the Sig feels much better

[tomj777]

Sept 29, 2015 19:30:46 GMT chykensa said:

....a twin 18650 mod with in excess of 100w of power would be a good post-Armageddon investment.... 

Err

Isn't "post-Armageddon" combined with electronics an oxymoron?

I guess a couple of 18650's in series and a coil somewhere around the 0.6 ohm mark will meet the spec. 

 There's a few out there which you can buy off the shelf, including some (like the second rev of the Cherry Bomber) which have a manual switch to flick between series and parallel. 

[Q]

The Xcube2 is a nice mod... period, BUT it is hardly pocket friendly, mine never leaves the house

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wish they can make smaller dual 18650's mods look at the size of ipv d2 so tiny add the width of an extra battery would still be nice in the hand Q seems if you want two batts its gotta be double the size or more

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Can some one please explain what this term "Post Armageddon" means and why twin batteries and 120 watts is better than, say, a Sigelei 75w in such a situation? This is a genuine question that I would like a straight answer to please.

[tomj777]

Armageddon is the worst-case-strict implementation of Article 20 of the European Tobacco Products Directive (TPD)

Crafted as a result of successful lobbying, TPD#20 of is a compensation scheme for tobacco and pharmaceutical companies which would otherwise be loosing money through the implementation of the rest of the directive (tobacco facing a near `Kodak Moment` because of vaping, pharmaceutical because of declining sales or ineffective nicotine replacement products and the horror of loosing the profit otherwise gained from treating smoking related diseases).

It contains, amongst other delights, rigorous and expensive licensing and testing (that cycle includes a six month notification period) of any new product or product variation

For instance - stuff that we know will be implemented:
Peach eLiquid 50PG 50VG, 12Mg/Ml ; Peach eLiquid 50PG 50VG, 18Mg/Ml; Peach eLiquid 10PG 90VG, 12Mg/Ml will require three licenses and suites of tests.

A variable voltage mod will be able to produce power at different levels - each level has to be...Yes, that's impossible unless "variable" means "stepped"
Attomisers must be leak proof and not hold more than 2.5ml of liquid

There's more, of course....
Much more.

Easiest way to understand is to read www.clivebates.com/?p=1747 and then spend a little time browsing Clive Bates's Counterfactual site.

Lots of links to sources in there.

Welcome to anger and welcome to despair.

[peter12]

Sept 30, 2015 6:21:33 GMT @yinyang said:

Can some one please explain what this term "Post Armageddon" means and why twin batteries and 120 watts is better than, say, a Sigelei 75w in such a situation? This is a genuine question that I would like a straight answer to please.

As tom said. Post armageddon is end of vaping rules as we know them. So many cashing in on stock whilst the going is good.
Regards dual battery. From what I have seen and read from others, it seems dual battery mods are less heavy on the batteries and so last longer. I could be wrong, but every post i have read suggests it's right.

[peter12]

Choices so far appear to be

Xcube
sigelei
Ipv3 li (who not ipv 4s which is cheaper and still dual batt 120 watt with tc)

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Thank you tomj777 ... Still doesn't clarify why a 120w dual would be any better post armageddon than the Sigeli 75w that the OP has. If he merely wants a dual battery mod with 120w power why introduce Armageddon into the mix?

Will this Armageddon situation prevent us buying hardware privately from China as we currently do without interference from government agencies? If so then I can't see any problem personally as I mix my own juice and have a lifetime supply of nic base in my freezer.

[tomj777]

Regarding the Armageddon reference Andy made in the OP, I don't think there's a difference in my mind - they are both hard to fix if there's a failure and replacements will be hard (cross border selling within the EU is proscribed but I'm not sure when it comes to outside of the EU).

Lifetime supply of Nic - good call. Of course the lifespan of Nic in your / my freezer is limited

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Sept 30, 2015 8:24:49 GMT tomj777 said:

Regarding the Armageddon reference Andy made in the OP, I don't think there's a difference in my mind - they are both hard to fix if there's a failure and replacements will be hard (cross border selling within the EU is proscribed but I'm not sure when it comes to outside of the EU).

Lifetime supply of Nic - good call. Of course the lifespan of Nic in your / my freezer is limited

At my age Tom, so is life 

[peter12]

Choices so far appear to be

Xcube
sigelei
Ipv3 li
ipv 4s
possibly clouper gt 80. lower watts but seems very small and cheaper. although it may be rubbish?

[Die5el]

Another vote for the Sigelei 150 watt with tc It has been in constant daily use since I got it