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Post by phatfil on Nov 9, 2015 17:32:37 GMT
imho when starting out juice flavour isnt that crucial, for one your taste buds are muted by years of smoking and secondly fags dont taste good you acquired the taste thru the adiction.. As you vape and your taste buds return to full working order the flavour will become more important and sample flavours can be bought from www.smokerainbow.com/ you pay more perml but only buy a taste of each and it can save £££s on not so nice juice
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2015 13:52:36 GMT
Hey again everyone. Once again, a big thank you to everyone who posted advice...much appreciated! I did go with the iStick 30W and Nauitlus Mini in the end with a handful of juices from the pound website and, after several weeks of watching loads of videos etc, tomorrow is going to, hopefully, be the big day...planning to fill the thing with juice tonight so it has the entire night to soak up.
I do have a couple of quick questions (they don't affect me trying to give up, just general ones for future reference):
1) Does the Nautilus Mini have a maximum wattage that it can tolerate before it burns etc? I have had a look around but couldn't find that particular answer (it was probably me just being dim and not seeing the answer in front of me somewhere!!)
2) When changing juice flavours, is it better just to put a brand new coil in? Or does just rinsing the coil and letting it dry work to ensure there's no mixing of taste? I don't mind buying extra coils as, if it all goes to plan, I'll be saving a load of money anyway.
Thanks
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Post by prr on Nov 21, 2015 14:07:37 GMT
@nursemorph the perceived wisdom is about 15 watts, however if I were you I would start at about 7 watts an d gradually increase until you hit the right spot for you.
With regards to heads most people vape through a juice change, you can get a few funky drags but the flavour soon kicks in.
Good luck!!
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Post by vapee on Nov 21, 2015 14:29:55 GMT
Yea its good to start off with low watts then see if thats satisfying and if you want a bit more vapour or warmer vape to increase it a bit so 7w then 7.5 etc but 15w seems to be around the most to go for the nautilus. The higher vg ratios can sometimes have trouble wicking on the coil heads with smaller wick holes too, so with higher vg ratios it might be good to take a primer pull (take a drag without pressing the fire button) to help wicking it, but i think around 50% vg would be fine, maybe even a bit higher. The subtanks generally work fine with higher vg ratios than the nautilus, they can provide higher airflow that can cool the vape down too so you can use higher watts, but with the largest airflow setting its for direct lung inhaling. Generally the higher watts/more vapor means higher nic intake so you would maybe need to reduce the nic of the juice if its particularly high, but up to 15w on the nautilus should be fine for 18mg usually. Its also fine if you find the nautilus satisfying to stick with mtl and lower watts and higher nic, sometimes people find the direct lung inhaling more satisfying but sometimes not too. I think alot may change the method over time from experimenting with sub ohm tanks and then preferring that or they maybe did not find mtl too satisfying or the lower vapor production. It can also end up being more expensive as the higher watts uses up more juice so can cost more, but with the lower priced juices and diy its still not bad. My adv for years tasted very odd at first but as I filled up a tank of it I ended up finishing it and actually liking it lol, however I found it didn't taste the same after a while on most tanks and setups so found a few other ones eventually.
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Post by phatfil on Nov 21, 2015 14:31:57 GMT
as above start low watts an see how it goes, adjusting to taste, just let the wick coil soak up juice before you start with a new coil.. optimum wattage values depend on the coils resistance and you can look up charts but its all about what works for you, if anything like me when i picked them up the lower power settings worked very well, as you transition to vape from smoke you may want more power for more vapor/flavour or you may not? just cos some folk like to vape and then fill the room with a persistent cloud doesn't mean you will
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Post by djs on Nov 21, 2015 14:37:34 GMT
When changing juice flavours, is it better just to put a brand new coil in? Or does just rinsing the coil and letting it dry work to ensure there's no mixing of taste? I don't mind buying extra coils as, if it all goes to plan, I'll be saving a load of money anyway. Nice idea, but expensive, unless you are organised enough to keep part-used coils that had a specific 'family' flavour. Rinsing is probably a bad idea. I run two tanks, one for fruits and one for tobacco-types. Saves a lot of bother i.m.o.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2015 14:56:40 GMT
Best wishes for tomorrow @nursemorph. I'm just about to hit a month smoke free after 30+ years a smoker and I can honestly say that I have not wanted (or thought about) having a smoke once since I switched to vaping. That's all thanks to the great support here and having the right equipment on hand.
I say this whilst enjoying a nice cup of tea and my favourite vape indoors! Not out in the cold like I would be with the nasties. And I look at that money saved and I smile. I smile a lot just lately :-)
You're all set and I know you've got this in the bag. Good luck!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2015 15:20:01 GMT
Thanks for the advice guys. I had already planned on starting low (have already set the istick at the lowest possible setting) so it was more just wanting to know how high it's possible to go if needed.
Regarding the juices, as djs has said, I realise it could get expensive....but I'm someone that tends to stick with something once I am fine with it so, once I find a particular flavour I like, am not likely to be swapping juices that much...I guess it's just at the beginning when I am unsure what flavours I like. However, the way I figure it, even if I used a new coil with each flavour, it would still be cheaper than cigarettes (can't imagine I'd go through that many coils in the first month to cost more than the £140 a month I spend on cigarettes?, though you never know). But, yes, I am that organised lol...I have spent the past week and a half cutting bits of cardboard to create inserts in a kitchen drawer so that the juice bottles will all stand upright and organised...I may post a photo at some point to show my dedication to giving up!
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Post by Chrissie on Nov 21, 2015 16:14:52 GMT
Good luck for tomorrow @nursemorph
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Post by gill2009 on Nov 21, 2015 18:45:27 GMT
FWIW@nursemorph...I never clean a tank, but vape through - with some interesting tastes
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2015 22:15:39 GMT
FWIW@nursemorph...I never clean a tank, but vape through - with some interesting tastes I do exactly the same.
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Post by greendog on Nov 21, 2015 23:18:30 GMT
regarding wattage, i would start at 8 watts and gradually increase until its good for you but dont go above 14/15 watts as the coils arent really suited for much higher. i use nautilus at 12/14 watts with no probs. when a new coil is installed i would let the tank sit upright for 10 mins before using to let the cotton saturate properly.
enjoy.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2015 13:38:29 GMT
Thanks again all for the advice. Having realised that it may take me a little while to get used to vaping/finding the right settings, I had my normal morning cigarettes today and started vaping about 2 1/2 hours ago (yeah, not long I know!). Started with the istick at 5w and am increasing by .1 each time I take a suck on it...am up to about 6.5 now as I am trying not to overuse it plus my throat isn't liking it particularly which may be because of the VG stuff (or whatever it is)...will see how it goes if my body adjusts or I need to find different juices. It seems to be working though as I haven't felt the need for a cigarette yet and I would normally really want one by now but we shall see how it goes as the day wears on. Am finding that there is very little flavour from the vapour at the moment...not sure if that is just because the wattage is low (I have noticed a slight difference with the increase in watts) or what...was expecting it to taste of tobacco somewhat given it's a Virginia Tobacco flavour but, so far, all I get is a slightly sweet taste when I first inhale the vapour (well, that and the metallic taste of the nautilus mouthpiece bit...I don't mind that though). Anyway, will see how it all goes but it's an encouraging start...I may still need the odd cigarette at certain times, such as after meals etc but that's to be expected to start with. Will keep you all updated in the days and weeks ahead. Oh yeah, as promised, here is a picture of my ecigarette drawer that took me many hours of cutting bits of cardboard (providing I can get the image to show)...I am not OCD but I do like to have organisation lol:
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Post by prr on Nov 22, 2015 14:01:20 GMT
Well done on starting @nursemorph most of us started on baccy flavours but quickly realised that most don't taste much like tobacco! Hence the abundance of flavours available, fruits, bakery, custards etc etc.
With regard to the throat issue this will be down to pg in the liquid so if it irritates you look for a higher VG ratio.
Most importantly don't worry about the cigs you've had, count the ones you haven't.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2015 14:13:57 GMT
Well done on starting @nursemorph most of us started on baccy flavours but quickly realised that most don't taste much like tobacco! Hence the abundance of flavours available, fruits, bakery, custards etc etc. With regard to the throat issue this will be down to pg in the liquid so if it irritates you look for a higher VG ratio. Most importantly don't worry about the cigs you've had, count the ones you haven't. Thanks...yeah I figured it would probably taste different from actual tobacco...at the moment, it just really has no flavour at all, beyond the slightly sweet taste when first inhaling....am assuming the flavour will get stronger with a higher wattage, though it could be that my taste buds are destroyed from years of smoking! The juice I got has 60% PG (the LiQuid 18mg one) so that probably is the case...I'll see how it goes as my body may adjust or I may need to inhale differently or something. And, yeah, I am already counting the cigarettes I haven't had, though it's only currently at 2!!
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