Complete Beginner

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I doubt you will get much flavour at all under 8w with the stock 1.8ohm coil. I'm a newbie myself really so don't want to say too much but I'm also fearful of you being too dissapointed. I would suggest starting at 8w and then slowly climbing from there.

[sydsut]

I think you may be a little overcautious at the moment @nursemorph  and that, as @hondo says can lead to disappointment, so up the wattage in 0.5 steps and the flavour should come through. My favourites tobaccos from LiQuid were Black Tobacco and British Tobacco and Lemon Sherbet , Blackcurrant & Liquorice and Very Berry from there other ranges.

[greendog]

a couple of things to bear in mind. it takes a while for your taste buds to recover from smoking full time but it will happen. once the coil has been used for half an hour or so dont be frightened to up the watts till you find your sweet spot. i wouldnt go much above 14 watts tho. you will soon find whats right for you. we all have a way of vaping which is unique to us. i dont vape tobbacco juices but i have friends that do and they say that the house of liquids range are very good.



it may serve you well to check out the juice reviews from prof beard. his reputation in the vaping community is top notch and his reviews on tobbacco flavours are detailed.



enjoy.

[chykensa]

12w - that's wherer to head @nursemorph!!

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Well done for making the change, @nursemorph. It takes a little time to get used to, but relax & one thing to remember, is not to cuff on your Nauti the same way as you do on a cig, with vaping, take a longer, slower draw.

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Thanks everyone. I agree with the lower wattage being a bit disappointing...am currently at 9 watts and there is definitely more flavour there, though it's still just sweet rather than anything particular (perhaps that's just what the tobacco one is supposed to taste like maybe?).

Will be at the 24 hour mark in a few hours and have only had 2 cigarettes so far, as opposed to the 10 I would normally have had so it's a good start (not top mention the £3 I have already saved!). This morning has been a bit strange though...when I went to bed last night, the level of juice was pretty much unchanged from when I started, yet, after using it this morning, it had dropped 0.5ml. Am not too bothered as 0.5ml used in 24 hours or so is fine with me but it's strange that it just dropped (no idea if it was at that level before I used it today or after but there's no sign that it has leaked).

The more concerning thing is that it has started popping/crackling whenever I use it. Having done a quick internet search this morning, I have read that this is common with the Nautilus Mini at lower wattages...is that the case? I can't see how liquid has got into the centre of the thing as it has been upright the entire time, even when using it. I also read that it can happen with taking too deeper a draw on it (ie treating it like a cigarette, which I must admit I did do this morning as was half asleep!)..also read that, if I up the wattage to 12 or something, it will clear it then can drop it down to 9w+. Not really sure what to do here....the crackling noise isn't bothering me and it isn't making a difference to the flavour side of things (not getting a burnt taste or anything). Any advice from those experience with the Nautilus Mini will be appreciated.

Edit: Did a forum search and it would seem that crackling is not only normal but a sign of a coil working well? New thing learnt as I figured there was something going wrong with it!

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Hi mate. Well done so far! Until someone more experienced comes along, I can say I have Kayfuns and Subtank mini's and both crackle and pop like a well known breakfast cereal. If you get gurgling then it's a different matter as the coil is likely flooding (you'll know the difference), but if my tanks don't crackle at least a little bit then I start worrying. Not sure if all tanks are the same, but as I say it's definitely the case with my tanks.

I've just gone back to vaping at 1.8ohms and I find 9.5 to 10.5 watts spot on for me, depending on the juice (it's definitely a personal thing and you'll find the wattage that's right for you). I do crank it up a little higher occasionally just to help burn off any excess juice as you say.

Keep up the great work so far and hopefully someone more experienced will be along shortly.

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Thanks @hondo . Just needed some reassurance so, now I know it's normal, I can continue on. At the moment, I'm using the standard 1.8ohm coil that comes with it and am finding 9 watts not bad...certainly, after 3 or 4 puffs, I am finding I've had enough and start getting a mild head rush (using it only as often as I used to smoke a cigarette), much like I get when I have a cigarette after having none for 8-10 hours.

Well, typically, after my previous post of saying the Nautilus wasn't leaking...turned out it was leaking and had been since I first started using it...took me a while to work out as it was just a bit of liquid outside, almost like condensation, around the air-holes ring and I figured it was coming from there but it seems I didn't quite tighten the bottom of the nautilus enough as it's stopped since then....it explained why I have had a strange smell in the room where the equipment is located as I don't vape indoors. It's surprising how much the juice smells given that the vapour doesn't give off any smell that I have noticed...though using it outside means I am not likely to notice I guess!

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Hi Nursemorph. Just want to say again than I'm still a newbie compared to most here, so what I say is given with best intentions, but I know someone more experienced will correct me if I'm wrong. Leaking through the airholes is in my experience not uncommon especially when you first start out, but you soon learn to tighten everything each time - with an added tighten for good measure :-)

Juice and vapor does smell, but not in the same unpleasant way that smoke does. The vapor smell indoors soon clears and doesn't flow through and stick in the house like smoke, so if you vaped in one room, the smell pretty much stays in there and doesn't linger forever like smoke. The juice itself is the same really (but more concentrated).

When I have my first vape in the morning I get the same head rush, but only then. I tend to have my first vape at 8 or 8.5 watts and then go back back up to my normal 9.5. Vaping delivers Nicotine more efficiently than smoking I believe, so as jess says above, try to take gentler but longer draws (gently draw the vapor into your mouth and then inhale and exhale). If there is an airhole on the Nautilus then try opening that just a tadge (if not don't worry). There is definitely a transition here. It's very close to smoking but the technique is a little different (depending on how you smoked I guess). This guide helped me understand the differences although I do it slightly differently: vapewhore.wordpress.com/tag/how-to-vape-properly/

I went through this exact same experience 4 weeks ago. Keep it up mate and keep asking the questions if needed as we've all been there where you are right now! :-)

Edited to add: If you continue to get the headrushes every time I think you might want to drop to 12mg nicotine ASAP. Hopefully one of the more experienced here will comment on this for you.

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Thanks again @hondo I did notice there was some juice from the airflow hole, though this seems to have stopped at the same time as the rest when I tightened the base slightly so, hopefully, it's sorted now. Thanks for clearing up about the vape smell...as I said, I don't vape indoors (it's a smoke free tenancy and I'd rather not take any risks...and, anyway, I need the exercise of going up and down the stairs each time so just continued going outside as before).

I'll have a look at that link you listed but I seem to have got the hang of it now....the headrush hasn't happened for a while as I started shortening the length of vape (was holding down the button for 5+ seconds most times before, now I'm releasing it after 3 or so) so that seems sorted. Only issue I currently have is the vapour making my throat sore when I use it (though it's fine after a couple of minutes) but my understanding is that it is being caused by the VG level in the juice, so am planning to order some with lower VG levels in the next few days...if that solves the sore throat, then it will all be looking good..mind you, I can deal with a sore throat for a few minutes each time as it's not that bigger deal

[greendog]

i wouldnt have thought the vg would give you a sore throat.  i would stick with it for a week.  bear in mind that vapour and smoke are different and a little time to adjust may be needed.   first thing in the morning i vape at 10 watts on a nautilus,  after that i vape at 12/14 watts so similar to yourself.   i find if the coil gets too saturated and gurgals or leaks a bit what i do is hold the mod and tank upside down so it cant wick as the juice is not at the base, and then i take a draw.  this will vapourize the juice on the coil without it getting anymore from the tank.  only 1 draw tho as too many might burn the wick.  another option is to up the watts for a bit and that will burn off any excess juice on the coil.

hope this helps.

enjoy

[chykensa]

@nursemorph - all seems to be going well so far, and well done!!

Your crackling coil means it's working well; this will slowly fade away as the wire coil inside the head gets gunked up with caramelised juice, so enjoy it while you can!
It's the PG in the juice which may cause a sore throat and drying out of your mouth and throat, but this will get better quite soon as you get acclimatised to the whole process.
I still reckon that you could open up your power quite a bit more - I use my Nautilii at around 12w so you have plenty of room to play with. Crank it up, and if you start getting a slightly harsh vape, or even a taste of burning, turn the power down a watt and you will be absolutely fine. Once you have used a tank the head should be run in and will be a bit more flexible to your experimentation.
Don't rush to buy different juices just yet; vaping is very different to smoking, and give yourself a couple of weeks to get used to things before changing too many parameters. If you are still getting headrushes and slight nausea, then you may need to lower the nic levels a bit, but I reckon these symptoms will fade as you vape for longer.
Anyway, well done on cutting out all those stinkies, and here's to your first fag-free day!!

[phatfil]

its more likely to be the PG content of the juice as thats what irritates the 'throat hit' sensation, some folk are more sensitive to it.

make sure u drink lots of water/fluids.. i found my mouth was dry, and an occasional gargle with a mouthwash would get saliva running.

if an atty is in doubt of leaking overnight dont leave it on the mod, simply unscrew and sit in a glass cradled in tissue, juice leaking from one of my tanks killed an istick 50 ;(

once its had 2 or 3 dry nights and has gained your confidence then you can relax and leave it on the mod perhaps..

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chykensa You vets and your high watts - I swear I can fill a room with vape cloud at 9.5/10 in both the Kayfun and Subtank Mini. Are you on commission from Manabush as I can't keep up with juice consumption as it is, without cranking it up even further ;-)

[chykensa]

Horses for courses, @hondo! Being a DIY-er and making my own juice, that's not too much of a consideration for me, but I take your point.
I think its down to personal preference. With my monster airflow Kayfun bases and Mini Nautilus, I run at about 12w. Goblins, Orchids and Subtanks, 25w hits the spot nicely. Drippers - well, that's a completely different ball-game . . .