re. e-cigs on prescription

[vapee]

So it seems all my assumptions were completely wrong lol, so its just an inhaler shaped like a cigarette with compressed gas and no electronics.

Dec 7, 2015 10:55:25 GMT @johanino said:

and all I needed all weekend was for my KFL+ to behave LOL

One day we all will be very thankful for china

My Kayfuns have decided to constantly leak lately from every seal lol I think the o-rings need to change or something. The lemo v1 is not bad though for mtl but a bit airy like the kfv4, maybe even a bit more, but no leaks. Its really unbelievable that the tank with the smallest air flow and juice channels leaks the most!

[robby]

Dec 7, 2015 11:20:26 GMT vapee said:

So it seems all my assumptions were completely wrong lol, so its just an inhaler shaped like a cigarette with compressed gas and no electronics.

Dec 7, 2015 10:55:25 GMT @johanino said:

and all I needed all weekend was for my KFL+ to behave LOL

One day we all will be very thankful for china

My Kayfuns have decided to constantly leak lately from every seal lol I think the o-rings need to change or something. The lemo v1 is not bad though for mtl but a bit airy like the kfv4, maybe even a bit more, but no leaks. Its really unbelievable that the tank with the smallest air flow and juice channels leaks the most!

There are references on the web linking BAT to an "e-voke" but no real info anywhere 

[robby]

"The new Voke product was developed for BAT by Kind Consumer, a private company whose backers include former Tesco boss Terry Leahy, one-time Sainsbury chairman Peter Davis and venture capitalist Jon Moulton.

While Voke has a license from the Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA), the authority must approve a modified license to allow full-scale commercialization by BAT's nicotine substitute division Nicoventures, the companies said on Friday.

Kevin Bridgman, chief medical officer at Nicoventures, said the additional license was needed for automated manufacture and the further regulatory step was likely to take some months. Only after that will the product be ready for launch in Britain.

Eddy Hargreaves, an analyst at broker Canaccord Genuity, said the development of Voke showed how "Big Tobacco" was pursuing multiple nicotine alternatives, although he saw the new inhaler as smaller seller than e-cigarettes.

However, as the only e-cigarette-type device on the market with regulatory backing, Nicholas Keher of Investec said it could be "a game-changer". "


Read more at Reutershttp://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-ecigarettes-brit-am-tobacco-idUSKBN0H70F520140912#VmyR9l1oIXwBKCKX.99


It could be just a continuation of the process mentioned above, where BAT needed a further license to actually manufacture the thing. That Reuters item is from Sept 2014.

[robby]

www.mhra.gov.uk/home/groups/spcpil/documents/spcpil/con1447996538558.pdf


There is an e-voke, the link takes you to the instruction leaflet for it

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Dec 7, 2015 11:20:26 GMT vapee said:

So it seems all my assumptions were completely wrong lol, so its just an inhaler shaped like a cigarette with compressed gas and no electronics.

Dec 7, 2015 10:55:25 GMT @johanino said:

and all I needed all weekend was for my KFL+ to behave LOL

One day we all will be very thankful for china

My Kayfuns have decided to constantly leak lately from every seal lol I think the o-rings need to change or something. The lemo v1 is not bad though for mtl but a bit airy like the kfv4, maybe even a bit more, but no leaks. Its really unbelievable that the tank with the smallest air flow and juice channels leaks the most!

Creme da vape have o-rings on offer... - main kayfun page and KFL+ spare kits

I think I have fixed mine with a spare polycarbonate tank (I got 7) from china ages ago. When I fell in love with my KFL+ first things - spare parts!!!!

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PS vapee link for fast tech - if you're not desperate to get your kayfuns fixed

www.fasttech.com/search?kayfun%20o%20rings

[goneforagasper]

Some time ago Tom published a list of Kayfun o rings and screws which enables you to get everything from ebay for a very minimal cost

allaboute-cigarettes.proboards.com/thread/47218/kayfun-lite-spares-rings-screws

vapee @mod Destroyer

[Bobsbeer]

I think it's a positive step in the right direction despite the shortcomings of the eVoke device. As a prescription device it makes it harder for other authorities to look at ecig use as a bad thing. Especially if other more traditional devices get through the vetting process. We may all hate BT and BP's involvement in this, but if it has the effect of normalising ecig use, I personally don't give two hoots who are behind the device. Let's face it, we have all gladly or otherwise handed over our hard earned dosh to BT for years. More money than I dare to think about, so a few quid more is not going to make any difference. If they put them on prescription, essentially they will be free to me as I already pay a monthly payment for my prescriptions anyway. It will make it harder for workplaces to ban them, and also harder for other public areas such as bars to ban them. Despite the upcoming TPD restrictions, this is a game changer in terms of the acceptability of e cigs in society. In the UK at least. So I say BRING IT ON.

[robby]

Absolutely Bobsbeer  

[djs]

Dec 7, 2015 10:55:39 GMT Richard46 said:

It is clearly not an e-cig as we know it, JIM

That's better. Now I feel the world is back on track. I can boldly go back to work.

[vapee]

Dec 7, 2015 12:53:39 GMT @johanino said:

PS vapee link for fast tech - if you're not desperate to get your kayfuns fixed

www.fasttech.com/search?kayfun%20o%20rings

Dec 7, 2015 13:23:57 GMT goneforagasper said:

Some time ago Tom published a list of Kayfun o rings and screws which enables you to get everything from ebay for a very minimal cost

allaboute-cigarettes.proboards.com/thread/47218/kayfun-lite-spares-rings-screws

vapee @mod Destroyer

Thanks alot, yea could be a good time to just replace all the orings in 1 go lol, the clone ones do have some issues with the screws sometimes too, I thought it was the hole at first but happened to be the screw had stripped so it wasn't too bad to replace

[yourgurnard]

The e-voke.......available in 22mm?....THAT'S workable!!

[Richard46]

Dec 7, 2015 14:44:47 GMT Bobsbeer said:

I think it's a positive step in the right direction despite the shortcomings of the eVoke device. As a prescription device it makes it harder for other authorities to look at ecig use as a bad thing. Especially if other more traditional devices get through the vetting process. We may all hate BT and BP's involvement in this, but if it has the effect of normalising ecig use, I personally don't give two hoots who are behind the device. Let's face it, we have all gladly or otherwise handed over our hard earned dosh to BT for years. More money than I dare to think about, so a few quid more is not going to make any difference. If they put them on prescription, essentially they will be free to me as I already pay a monthly payment for my prescriptions anyway. It will make it harder for workplaces to ban them, and also harder for other public areas such as bars to ban them. Despite the upcoming TPD restrictions, this is a game changer in terms of the acceptability of e cigs in society. In the UK at least. So I say BRING IT ON.

Totally respect your opinions but if you think there is a bright future for vapers in the hands of BAT and its ilk then I must disagree. They will pursue the path of proprietary systems and dependency on their products; if they work. If not they just carry on reaping profits from the burnt stuff. 

[Bobsbeer]

Don't get me wrong Richard46 I'm no fan of BT, or their brand of e cig. I fear you are missing the point I'm making though. My point is more the longer term than the initial products coming on stream via MHRA, which I'm sure will be crap. This isn't about the product but the principle that is being set. Vaping is good. Vaping should be encouraged. Vaping should be allowed. Doctors are being encouraged and can prescribe it. In the public's eyes that is tacit approval. It makes it harder to ban all types of vaping equipment, when vaping is allowed if you use a certain e cig. Let's face it, to non vapers, an e cig is an e cig. They don't know the difference between a Vype or a Kanger. To them they are e cigs, and up until now, both are just as bad as the other. So I do think this is a very important step in the right direction. Not the end by any means, but at least we are going in the right direction. There is a very long way to go with this, but this one is 15 love to vapers, not BT.

[Richard46]

Dec 7, 2015 23:02:39 GMT Bobsbeer said:

Don't get me wrong Richard46 I'm no fan of BT, or their brand of e cig. I fear you are missing the point I'm making though. My point is more the longer term than the initial products coming on stream via MHRA, which I'm sure will be crap. This isn't about the product but the principle that is being set. Vaping is good. Vaping should be encouraged. Vaping should be allowed. Doctors are being encouraged and can prescribe it. In the public's eyes that is tacit approval. It makes it harder to ban all types of vaping equipment, when vaping is allowed if you use a certain e cig. Let's face it, to non vapers, an e cig is an e cig. They don't know the difference between a Vype or a Kanger. To them they are e cigs, and up until now, both are just as bad as the other. So I do think this is a very important step in the right direction. Not the end by any means, but at least we are going in the right direction. There is a very long way to go with this, but this one is 15 love to vapers, not BT.

I do hope you are right but I fear the main principle that people will perceive being set is that they are all having to subsidise smokers lack of will power.

Never mind the general public; I am going to resent unwillingly being made to subsidise BAT's profit margin. We are going to be paying BAT to provide both the problem and the cure.