What works...

[Greg]

Dec 27, 2015 22:23:45 GMT catface26 said:

Dec 27, 2015 21:02:34 GMT Chrissie said:

I agree violetblade - the market is moving too fast & sadly too many folks are sucked into having to buy the latest

Really don't agree with this. The technology has come on leaps and bounds in the last couple of years and sure there are lots of new things coming out all the time but vaping is constantly getting better. You only have to look at what has happened since the subtank to realise this.

I think with any kind of technology it will always move fast for a good while before any kind of plateau.

I find it interesting how some people refuse to move forward even if what they have now works. Ultimately I can't argue if it prevents anyone from smoking fags but embracing new ideas is a big part of it for me.

Perhaps you're still in the honeymoon period, we've all been there. Bit like a kid in a sweet shop 

[Mrsmac]

I'm starting to feel in the ancient category these days but a joint journey between me and Mr mac over a number of years took us to where we are today. We started on cigalikes which didn't last too long when I came across this forum. We then moved onto ce2's as well as early bottom and top coil clearomisers. Fortunately things were still developing at a rapid rate back then but we were not ready. After a break, we came back to vaping at the right time where protanks and i clears were taking off. These were big changes in the vaping world and following learning how to rebuild the Kanger series of tanks led me to rebuildables.

We settled on kayfuns with 1.4 ish ohm coils around 11 watts and drippers. The devices are isticks. Why? Because the flavour suits our tastes and I generally understand them. We've tried bigger airflow, sub ohming and temperature control but for us, it's just a more or less faff free vape with decent flavour and after a year of running this set up, we are reasonably happy which leaves us to explore juices and diy

[catface26]

Dec 28, 2015 10:02:06 GMT Greg said:

Dec 27, 2015 22:23:45 GMT catface26 said:

Really don't agree with this. The technology has come on leaps and bounds in the last couple of years and sure there are lots of new things coming out all the time but vaping is constantly getting better. You only have to look at what has happened since the subtank to realise this.

I think with any kind of technology it will always move fast for a good while before any kind of plateau.

I find it interesting how some people refuse to move forward even if what they have now works. Ultimately I can't argue if it prevents anyone from smoking fags but embracing new ideas is a big part of it for me.

Perhaps you're still in the honeymoon period, we've all been there. Bit like a kid in a sweet shop 

I don't think so. I'm just a bit of a technology geek. I enjoy the evolution of technology and like to use the latest innovations.

[Greg]

Dec 28, 2015 10:36:17 GMT catface26 said:

Dec 28, 2015 10:02:06 GMT Greg said:

Perhaps you're still in the honeymoon period, we've all been there. Bit like a kid in a sweet shop 

I don't think so. I'm just a bit of a technology geek. I enjoy the evolution of technology and like to use the latest innovations.

Time will tell I guess. I notice you're currently in the top 10 for number of forum posts per week too, I'll wager that will fade in due course too 

[nanotm]

Dec 28, 2015 10:36:17 GMT catface26 said:

Dec 28, 2015 10:02:06 GMT Greg said:

Perhaps you're still in the honeymoon period, we've all been there. Bit like a kid in a sweet shop 

I don't think so. I'm just a bit of a technology geek. I enjoy the evolution of technology and like to use the latest innovations.

aside from the type of coils evolving I don't really see much difference between the different tanks from a usability or aesthetic point of view, now I haven't tried any (although I am seriously considering the tfv4 for the easy fill option) and well battery boxes will always get better with time, kind of surprised nobody had bothered to build a li-po unit with double the power output and half the size of a li-on unit but i'm sure such things will come in the future.

[chykensa]

I think that this thread just goes to prove that there are many different ways to get our satisfaction from vaping. Many of us are quite happy and content using 'outdated' technology, and I mean that in the literal way; there are newer, more effective ways of vaping, according to some, but if it ain't broke, don't fix it!
Others (and I count myself in this to a limited extent) like to experiment with coils, wicking, and using more powerful mods to get something different from their vape.

However, at the end of the day, we are all thankfully ex-smokers, and we all not only enjoy our vaping journeys but also discussing and helping each other. What's not to like with that!?

[catface26]

Dec 28, 2015 11:08:28 GMT nanotm said:

Dec 28, 2015 10:36:17 GMT catface26 said:

I don't think so. I'm just a bit of a technology geek. I enjoy the evolution of technology and like to use the latest innovations.

aside from the type of coils evolving I don't really see much difference between the different tanks from a usability or aesthetic point of view, now I haven't tried any (although I am seriously considering the tfv4 for the easy fill option) and well battery boxes will always get better with time, kind of surprised nobody had bothered to build a li-po unit with double the power output and half the size of a li-on unit but i'm sure such things will come in the future.

There's tons of new innovations. Different types of juice flow, juice flow control, top filling, air flow direct to the coils, extra drip tip air flow. Things like the Haze dripper tank which is an RDA with a large juice well that acts as a tank etc. It's constantly evolving.

[buggritt]

Only variations on the same theme. And marketing.

[Greg]

Drip tips with extra airflow, what a disaaaaster darling

[Deleted]

I don't feel the need to spend loads to keep me from smoking, I just need something that is nice to use, faff free & above all, works. I am now very settled with iSticks, nowt more than 30w. Atop those, my lovely Nauti (from you lot ) & also & still, my ProTank 2's (still prefer that over PT 3's).

I adored my lovely Vaporshark, very kindly sent me by you very generous lot , sadly, that has long since lost its threads, battery doesn't hold charge so well either. Quite amazing really, considering the cost of those things & it didn't see out a year. Whereas, iSticks of the same age are still going strong, that tells me I don't need to spend an extortionate amount to be a non smoking very satisfied vaper.

[catface26]

Dec 28, 2015 14:52:13 GMT buggritt said:

Only variations on the same theme. And marketing.

It really isn't. All of those factors make a difference.

And look at other things that are happening like the new Target 75 VTC kit. Which has a porous ceramic wick with the coil embedded inside. Supposedly the flavour is incredible.

These things wouldn't happen if everyone never got any further than a Nautilus or Ego-T.

Every other technology on the planet benefits from innovation so why should vaping be any different?

No one is forcing anyone to do anything they don't want to here but if you were driving around in an Austin Maestro and someone offered you a go in a Tesla sports car, would you decline on the basis that your old car was still perfectly serviceable?

[Greg]

Dec 28, 2015 15:03:27 GMT catface26 said:

Dec 28, 2015 14:52:13 GMT buggritt said:

Only variations on the same theme. And marketing.

It really isn't. All of those factors make a difference.

And look at other things that are happening like the new Target 75 VTC kit. Which has a porous ceramic wick with the coil embedded inside. Supposedly the flavour is incredible.

These things wouldn't happen if everyone never got any further than a Nautilus or Ego-T.

Every other technology on the planet benefits from innovation so why should vaping be any different?

No one is forcing anyone to do anything they don't want to here but if you were driving around in an Austin Maestro and someone offered you a go in a Tesla sports car, would you decline on the basis that your old car was still perfectly serviceable?

Good old shinyitus   

[letsavit]

single 7-8 wraps .3 NI200 in a Kayfun/subtank, TC, around 0.1 and 5 wraps single coil Clapton kanthel (pre made wire) in a dripper around .5 on a mech is my go to..... Everything else is just playing/hobby.

[nanotm]

Dec 28, 2015 14:30:26 GMT catface26 said:

Dec 28, 2015 11:08:28 GMT nanotm said:

aside from the type of coils evolving I don't really see much difference between the different tanks from a usability or aesthetic point of view, now I haven't tried any (although I am seriously considering the tfv4 for the easy fill option) and well battery boxes will always get better with time, kind of surprised nobody had bothered to build a li-po unit with double the power output and half the size of a li-on unit but i'm sure such things will come in the future.

There's tons of new innovations. Different types of juice flow, juice flow control, top filling, air flow direct to the coils, extra drip tip air flow. Things like the Haze dripper tank which is an RDA with a large juice well that acts as a tank etc. It's constantly evolving.

wicks provide flow control. pack it tight for low flow leave it loose for high flow...... air holes in drip tips are just an excuse to jet hot blobs onto everything in the vicinity and airflow has always gone through the coil.

the only real innovation was putting the fill hole at the top of the tank instead of needing to completely disassemble the thing to fill it up.... the rest is just marketing hype to sell more gear to those who didn't realise how it should work....  if they managed to make a tank that even a muppet could assemble without a single leak problem that would be an innovation, the rba deck for the nautilus was an innovation (I would of preferred it had post holes rather than wrap arounds though) the vast majority of whats on the market is just the same thing from a different company with differing Q-A standards, the dovpo forever 30 mod is basically a 30w istick but it also does tc and coils down to 0.09ohms, I like it and will use it for the ni200 coils I build in the nautilus,

sure I have just splurged in the post xmas sales at various places and look forwards to trying out all my kit in the year ahead but I don't expect to be buying anything other than juice for the next few years unless something suffers an accident, which I suspect is the same thing for a lot of people, I plan on my non smoking habit costing me less than than my smoking habit did, if I add up the spending thus far over the same period last year when I smoked it works out roughly equal, the difference is that was only for 4 months consumption and what I have now should last at least another 12 months with close to zero outlay.

but I also understand the drive some people have to always try the newest best thing, and perhaps if had a different outlook I too would be similarly driven to try out new things more often

[catface26]

Dec 28, 2015 15:06:01 GMT Greg said:

Dec 28, 2015 15:03:27 GMT catface26 said:

It really isn't. All of those factors make a difference.

And look at other things that are happening like the new Target 75 VTC kit. Which has a porous ceramic wick with the coil embedded inside. Supposedly the flavour is incredible.

These things wouldn't happen if everyone never got any further than a Nautilus or Ego-T.

Every other technology on the planet benefits from innovation so why should vaping be any different?

No one is forcing anyone to do anything they don't want to here but if you were driving around in an Austin Maestro and someone offered you a go in a Tesla sports car, would you decline on the basis that your old car was still perfectly serviceable?

Good old shinyitus   

In my case it isn't this and I can prove it to you. Every time I've bought some new kit I haven't gone back to the old stuff. It's always been an upgrade in my eyes.

Ten Motives cig-a-like > Ego-T > 20w istick and Nautilus > 20w istick and sub tank nano > 30w istick and sub tank nano > 30w istick and sub tank mini > 50w Sigelei and sub tank mini > Mechs and drippers > 50w Sigelei and Bellus > 75w Evic VTC Mini and Bellus

That's as far as I've got so far and each increment has been an upgrade that has improved my vaping experience. Mechs and drippers are kind of a different story as although it is still the most superior method of vaping in terms of raw performance, the practicality of it means I usually only use this kind of kit in the evening.

At this point I may well use a mixture of kit as I have an Aromamizer and a Smok TFV4 to collect from the post office but up until this point all of my old kit is redundant.