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Post by lobeydosser on Feb 17, 2016 17:02:30 GMT
Agreed, but the 5:2 Fast Diet is not just about losing weight. It is more to do with improving your mental and physical wellbeing. Losing weight is indeed a very small part of it and for that information you really do have to read the book.
I certainly would not be attracted to the 5:2 if it was only a case of losing some weight. Been there, tried it, bought the T shirt. Not interested in trying it again.
Nor do I agree with the exercise bit. I do more than enough of that working in the garden without wasting my energy pedalling like mad and going nowhere.
I have a Clinic Appointment in 2 weeks time and only then will I find out for sure, whether the 5:2 really has improved my blood/sugar, cholesterol, etc. I feel that it has but I need positive proof.
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Post by thebishman on Feb 17, 2016 17:23:50 GMT
Sarin, isnt there more to it than that?
Something about the body going into repair mode when fasting? Ive just bought the book on this and havent read it yet.
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Post by *-SARIN-* on Feb 17, 2016 17:35:28 GMT
Sarin, isnt there more to it than that? Something about the body going into repair mode when fasting? Ive just bought the book on this and havent read it yet. Nope, ever see a overweight professional athlete? They eat 6 smaller meals every day and have regular exercise. One of the main problems with fasting is that as soon as you start eating, your body wants all the bad stuff to restock - you have to be very disciplined not to allow this to happen. Think about when you don't have breakfast, at 11am when you're hungry you don't want a piece of fruit, you want a doughnut, a mars bar or the office classic - biscuits! NB: Most people fail diets because of the boredom of eating the same food over and over. You have to put out more than you put in to lose weight, either that or reduce the amount of calories that you are putting in. But yeah, regular exercise and a balanced diet - it's what professional dieticians will tell you.
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Post by lobeydosser on Feb 17, 2016 18:37:04 GMT
thebishman, Read the book. That explains all you need to know and contrary to others opinions, you do not eat more after a fast. Quite the opposite, a fact that surprised me. I feel a million dollars after fasting, almost to the point of wanting to continue it for another day. But I don't. I follow the instructions in the book. This book and the diet rather destroys all the "facts????" pedalled by "professional dieticians". Perhaps an indication of why half our society is obese and it getting worse.
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Post by thebishman on Feb 17, 2016 18:50:18 GMT
Ok mate i will read it. I only bought it because of you introducing it to me
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Post by lobeydosser on Feb 18, 2016 0:42:16 GMT
Hi thebishman, It's an eye opener. However there is nothing new in what it is promoting. Fasting has been around since Cave Man days and it is practised throughout the world by thousands of people in many different religions. Even athletes train during fasting periods, so just because you are on a fast day, you will not feel bad because of lack of food. The book, for me, has several good points, like, it is well researched and quotes all the research places where they got their data from. Also, nothing is "set in stone", you decide how you want to work it to suit your circumstances. I am now on week six and 6 hours into my second fast.
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Post by thatguy on Feb 18, 2016 1:14:30 GMT
This diet really benefits from a high fiber and low GI carb (non sugar, slow burning carb) intake before the fasting days as you really need to make sure your body is prepared for the reduced calorie intake by eating foods that are processed and release energy slowly over a long period, and keep you feeling full.
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Post by lobeydosser on Feb 18, 2016 8:58:42 GMT
This diet really benefits from a high fiber and low GI carb (non sugar, slow burning carb) intake before the fasting days as you really need to make sure your body is prepared for the reduced calorie intake by eating foods that are processed and release energy slowly over a long period, and keep you feeling full. Could you point me in the direction of where this information came from thatguy as I have not read it in the book.
The whole revelation of the 5:2 Fast Diet, is that, unlike other diets, you do not change any of the foods that you would normally eat, you merely cut down the number of calories you would normally eat, on 2 non-consecutive days.
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Post by lobeydosser on Feb 18, 2016 12:28:57 GMT
People seem to be a bit confused by the 5:2 Fast Diet. Fasting, although could possibly help with losing weight, is NOT primarily to lose weight. Many thousands of folks world wide, Fast because of religious or spiritual reasons and I doubt if they have any desire to lose any weight. Fasting promotes healing within the body and mind and so puts in place the ability to conquer other troubles such as weight loss.
Humans developed over hundreds of thousands of years and during that development went through periods of Famine and Plenty, so our bodies are not used to our modern day life of constantly eating every day, all day.
Being hungry for a day ain't gonna kill me, but what it does do is maker me feel good and although I could eat anything I want to the day after, I don't feel like eating a lot. When I do eat, I enjoy the taste, but not the volume. If I sat down to the sort of meal that I used to have in the past, I would feel bloated and very uncomfortable for many hours afterwards.
So, it is what happens after your Fast Day that will determine what you lose, weight wise.
It is for this reason that there are different types of Fast Diet. At the moment I am doing the 5:2 Fast Diet. If I wanted to lose more weight quicker, I might attempt a 4:3 Fast Diet. If I got to a weight I was happy with, I would change to a 6:1 Fast Diet.
I am now 18 hours into my Thursday Fast and I am feeling dammed good.
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Post by lobeydosser on Feb 19, 2016 16:48:26 GMT
I quite surprised myself yesterday. It was my usual Fast Day and about 18 hours into it one of my dogs started weeing blood. Over the afternoon he started dripping blood all over the kitchen floor and the lounge carpet. Bundling him into the car, I took him to the Vet in the local town 20 miles away and once there we went through quite a traumatic hour or so as he got a number of catheters and flush outs etc etc. It is possible that this is a more serious follow up of something that happened to him 3 years ago, but he is home again and on medication for a week to see how he does.
It wasn't until we were back home that I realised that we had driven passed all the usual shops where I used to stop and buy my Mars Bars, Kit Kats and other goodies that I used to think were a necessary part of any car journey. Fasting fairly focuses the mind and helps my concentration.
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Post by *-SARIN-* on Feb 19, 2016 16:54:27 GMT
Fasting fairly focuses the mind and helps my concentration. Fasting shrinks your stomach and puts your body into emergency eat your fat reserves mode. Once it has started that process the need to eat declines until the fat reserves are depleted. When this happens (3 weeks roughly) you have two choices, eat something or die.
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Post by lobeydosser on Feb 19, 2016 17:07:00 GMT
If that was the case *-SARIN-*, my "fat reserves" would probably last about 9 years!!!!
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Post by *-SARIN-* on Feb 19, 2016 17:15:32 GMT
If that was the case *-SARIN-* , my "fat reserves" would probably last about 9 years!!!! You might be surprised mate. I think that the success is down to the fact that this diet enables you to eat normally rather than having to eat the same boring meals day in day out - one of the major reasons that most people fail diets. I'm glad that it's working for you, keep it up
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Post by lobeydosser on Feb 19, 2016 17:26:57 GMT
The "reason" that this diet works for me is that it gives me way much more than just the ability to lose weight.
Also, any other so called diets that I have tried involves being one of only a few guys in a class full of yakky wimen. These classes were always in towns that involved a 30 mile round trip every week, on top of which these classes involved a joining fee plus a class cost. We even had to pay for classes that we didn't attend! And ofcourse there was always the "special foods" and the "special books" that you were expected to buy "to enhance your diet experience". Aye Right!
In the 5:2 I use (or not use) my own foods. Apart from buying one book at the start (for about 8 quid), the rest doesn't cost me a bean and I don't have to give up an evening every week travelling to a class.
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Post by gill2009 on Feb 19, 2016 18:36:36 GMT
lobeydosser...I hope your dog heals quickly & fully recovers
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