DNA Vapes 300W Mod - A potential Accident waiting to happen?

[Perpetua]

Feb 25, 2016 23:29:41 GMT VapingBad said:

 Though I can remember Grim Green having a looooong rant about the Kick 2 "who needs 20 W" not so long ago.

Me to and I agreed with him!

Pre subohm, TC days  . . . . now I recognize and appreciate our requirements have changed, but even so.

[nanotm]

well I accidentally fired my mod at 200watts the other week, doing a new coil build I checked the resistence reading then gave it a dry burn to make it fully contact build, that was a blindingly bright flash as the coil burnt out ......next time I get a mod out of the box I hope i'll remember to check its power setting before trying that ..... probably not though its the absent minded sort of this I do ....

[Bluefish]

Most wattage device i own is 80 watts, 2 upgraded evil minis to 75 watts, and 99% of the time I'm vaping at 30-40 watts, I have dug out my Spheroids though, 10 watts is where it's at haha

[Bluefish]

This time next year Rodney we will be Vaping on a KW device with -30 Ohm coils

[Bluefish]

Anyone wanna buy a Riva lmao

[Deleted]

VapingBad, having read the specs on this, IYO is this mod safe ? www.dnavapes.com/collections/frontpage/products/artery-nugget-mod

[VapingBad]

Feb 27, 2016 1:14:06 GMT striker42 said:

VapingBad , having read the specs on this, IYO is this mod safe ? www.dnavapes.com/collections/frontpage/products/artery-nugget-mod

Impossible to tell from the spec, you could have a LiPo that small that could supply the current, but you wouldn't get much vape time at 50 W and even running it at say 30 W it would not last long as it would need so many charge cycles, 200-300 charge cycles and the battery will be done in.  if these were your only mod you would need at least 2 as one would be charging, I reckon at say 30-40 W you would get through 3-4 recharges a day.  It may suit as a now and again stealth mod, just an expensive way of doing that IMO.

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Think I'll pass on it VapingBad .

[b1mble]

An 18350 it says.

And 50W it says.

Ignoring conversion inefficiency which can be huge - I have a 50W mod here that claims maximum draw is 23A.

50W from a 4.2V cell is just shy of 12A which is more than any 18350 I'm aware of can handle.

[Deleted]

Feb 27, 2016 9:54:52 GMT b1mble said:

An 18350 it says.

And 50W it says.

Ignoring conversion inefficiency which can be huge - I have a 50W mod here that claims maximum draw is 23A.

50W from a 4.2V cell is just shy of 12A which is more than any 18350 I'm aware of can handle.

That was the reason I posed the question. It just doesn't look like it adds up to being safe. But I could be persuaded if there was concrete evidence to the contrary. Somehow I can't see me getting trampled in the rush for that.

[VapingBad]

IIRC Bob said it was a 18350 sized LiPo and that could well do the current safely, but it would have poor life at 30+ W.

[Bob]

Feb 27, 2016 17:58:21 GMT VapingBad said:

IIRC Bob said it was a 18350 sized LiPo and that could well do the current safely, but it would have poor life at 30+ W.

If you look at the vid here showing a German guy (subtitled) reviewing it, and he opens it up to show it is a LiPo, it actually looked a bit fatter than a normal 18350 battery but that could have been the wrap.

[Chrissie]

As I feel that as many people as possible need to know about our concerns about DNA Vapes, with sydsut's permission, I've changed the title of this thread & moved it from "Members Only" Board.

[reefcat]

I see history repeating itself here. Not that many years ago we had similar posts foretelling doom when the first 20 watt mods appeared. When a 1.1 ohm coil was considered pushing the boundaries & borderline dangerous to life & limb. This was quickly followed by the first 50 watt, then 100 watt mods, each step accompanied by a degree of hysteria & "why would anyone need that power" type comments. Sub ohm was something only done by very knowledgeable geeks on a mech mod, or nutters who were going to blow themselves up & give vaping a bad name.

For the moment, we are still a consumer led activity. That is, the market decides if a product is good or bad. If it's good we buy it & it thrives, if not it dies a quiet death. That's the whole point of innovation in disruptive technologies. I would much rather see the market make decisions, than have them made for us by government or other nannying organizations.

We would not have the fantastic range of devices available now, if we had listened to all the hysteria every time a new boundary was broken. So, provided safety isn't compromised, us consumers will determine if something is good or not & it needs to stay that way.

[VapingBad]

I think the main concern is that 3 18650s cannot provide 300 W especially the risks of using batteries like EFest Purples that overstate their safe current rather than it claiming to be 300 W.