NHS e mail and my reply

[Queenie Bee]

Apr 13, 2012 18:36:22 GMT VE Jason said:

You'd be amazed by some of the replies, with a large percentage choosing the fags.

When pushed for reasoning, they felt that the fags would be better value for the £7 than the e-cig

that would be all the extra chemicals in them value for money and all! #icon_rofl#

[Queenie Bee]

Apr 13, 2012 17:22:02 GMT Phoenix . said:

Had a reply to my e mail, sorry not techno cannot forward it to a forum, but this is what they say about e cigarettes
@
http:/www.smokefree.nhs.uk/ if you want to read it.

I have just been on and couldn't find anything about ecigs through the search

[Phoenix .]

Dear Pauline

Many thanks for your email.
First of all, the Department of Health would like to make it clear that consumer safety is of paramount importance to the Government. E-cigarettes and other novel nicotine delivery products are subject to existing consumer product safety regulations as enforced by local councils’ trading standards departments. To comply, product labels and packaging must meet specific requirements if there may be a danger to consumers. Some e-cigarettes have been tested by local authority trading standards departments and have failed to comply with consumer safety regulations. They have therefore been removed from sale.

Reducing the public health impact of smoking remains a priority for the Department of Health and the Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA). Following advice from the Commission on Human Medicines (CHM), the MHRA’s independent scientific expert advisory committee, a decision has been made to extend the use of licensed Nicotine Replacement Therapy products to include harm reduction. This means that the use of these products has been extended to include those who are still smokers, but who choose or are forced not to smoke for a period of time. This would include when smokers do not wish to expose others to their secondhand smoke or cannot smoke because they are in a smoke-free area. It also includes those who wish to reduce the number of cigarettes smoked but do not plan to quit.

However, there are a number of products on the market such as nicotine-containing electronic cigarettes, topical gels and oral forms, claiming to contain nicotine that are widely and easily available but are not licensed medicines. Unlicensed nicotine-containing products have not been assessed for safety, quality and efficacy and therefore there is potentially a risk to public health.

We know from work done by the Food and Drug Administration in the United States that laboratory analyses of e-cigarette samples were found to contain carcinogens and toxic chemicals. Bringing all current unlicensed nicotine containing products into regulation would protect users from unknown risks and ensure that smokers had products that had been assessed for their quality, efficacy and safety.

Until relatively recently, there were few or no nicotine products available and, therefore, how they were regulated was not a concern. The increasing availability of these products and their potential impact on public health means that we need to consider how they are regulated. Products which contain nicotine which appreciably affect people’s metabolism in normal usage, fall within medicines legislation in terms of pharmacological action. In light of this, on 1 February the MHRA published a consultation exercise to seek views on the regulation of nicotine containing products.
The MHRA consultation can be found at: www.mhra.gov.uk.
Kind regards
The smokefree website administration team
Visit our new website at http:/www.smokefree.nhs.uk/

[Phoenix .]

I have tried copy/paste on the smokefree it won't work for me, on my copy of the above this address was given in the blue click thinggy, very techno aren't I

But it goes on to say e cigs are better than cigs.

[hissie]

The longer term vapers on this forum will remember the panic when we thought e-cigs were going to be classified at all & the fear of them getting banned.

In fact, there was a general consensus that if this was to be the case we would take a huge risk & purchase the e-cigs & all that goes with them from China exclusively.

Newer vapers haven't had to consider this potential threat until now. This thread has re-opened the debate.

[Phoenix .]

Amen to this discussion I think we have had enough views to form your own opinion as to whether what I am doing is right or wrong.
Thank you all for your input.

[Deleted]

Well in fairness to them , they actually read your email and answered it, with a template I would imagine , why the MHRA cannot do their own studies and have to rely on the 1 sided views of the FDA ( not part of the EU I may add ) . We kow tow enough to the EU , and now we have to listen to the yank authorities ....... tsch

[hissie]

Tis up to you what you do lil.

If you think your doing something positive, then go for it.

I don't think anyone wants to stop you, just giving an opinion.

[Deleted]

I think it's a worthwhile debate , mainly to keep the interest and the impetus going on what ecita are trying to achieve for all , I remember Hissie and we have not got much longer left of our 18 month stay of execution so to speak . Once again it's time to rally the troops

[hissie]

Glad you remember storm. We were all in total panic as we thought death of the e-cig as we know it was imminent.

Very scary indeed.

I am happy with the way things are & it's not because I'm stuck in my ways, it's because I think the system is working well, so why change it.

[Deleted]

Well Hissie we still haven't got much longer to go before the final decision on classification is announced , so we still have an uphill struggle until then ... and we still face a possible ban ....... god forbid

[hissie]

Well I'm not worrying lol.

We will find a way

[Deleted]

Knowledge is power hissie

[hissie]

So is money unfortunatly.

& money seems to win hands down.

[Queenie Bee]

Apr 13, 2012 19:54:10 GMT hissie said:

So is money unfortunatly.

& money seems to win hands down.

very true hissie