How long will Nic last non-frozen

[Perpetua]

May 8, 2016 18:58:50 GMT calnorth said:

As regards the original question I believe Perpetua has Nic at about 4 years under ice conditions.

Over 5 years now some of my stash calnorth.

If you're not permitted to use your family freezer and don't have anyone who would keep some for you @kopiert, then the next best thing you could do is to decant your base into amber glass bottle(s) it's the best colour for preventing degradation  . . . . and find the coldest dark place possible to store it. How about a cool bag with some ice blocks as a thought?

That should give you a couple of years at least for it to be usable.

[VapingBad]

May 8, 2016 18:46:08 GMT calnorth said:

May 8, 2016 18:36:47 GMT thebishman said:

What do you mean calnorth? The last sentence!

So i guess i should be thinking about buying extra now then. Im down to 2-3mg now so it lasts a while but its best i have a fair bit.

I don't trust anybody around things like this...so get in there I'd say.

Certain plants in this world produce Nicotine to fight off/dispel insects that eat their leaves. Can't quite remember their names, but a scan of Google will reveal. I once did similar with tobacco seed in my green house...the Virginia plant. Worked well as regards growing but failed on drying them out...fungus!

I was also wondering if the Nicotine we use is synthetic or au naturel (from plants)

I believe it's all the Nightshade family: Potato, tomato, aubergine and peppers.

I doubt it is practical with anything other than tobacco leaves.

[Clivia]

or buy a small table top freezer just for yourself

[Postmodern Smoking]

May 8, 2016 18:46:08 GMT calnorth said:

I was also wondering if the Nicotine we use is synthetic or au naturel (from plants)

As far as I can remember, the main UK pharmaceutical manufacturer of nicotine products (my previous supplier) uses nicotine sulphate as a raw ingredient, which is then processed into pure nicotine and other nicotine related products/compounds. I presume that the nicotine sulphate is likely derived/extracted from (tobacco) plants.

I'm unsure what the other Swiss manufacturer uses, or whether they import Asian partly purified nicotine and then refine further.

[jtc]

Hmmm is aubergine what they call egg plants?
Ive heard a few times in USA most there's is produced from egg plants.(not sure if true)
Ive also read that one guy storing in a freezer has clear, good nic over 10 years

[Postmodern Smoking]

May 8, 2016 22:12:17 GMT jtc said:

Hmmm is aubergine what they call egg plants?
Ive heard a few times in USA most there's is produced from egg plants.(not sure if true) 

Yes, aubergine = eggplant

"Nicotine is a natural product of tobacco, occurring in the leaves in a range of 0.5 to 7.5% depending on variety. Nicotine also naturally occurs in smaller amounts in plants from the family Solanaceae (such as potatoes, tomatoes, and eggplant)." - from Wikipedia



Nicotine could be derived from the above, but AFAIK tobacco leaves are primarily used.

Note: for eggplant above, 100 (nanograms / gram) = 1.0 × 10^-5 %  = 0.00001% ...... so amount tiny compared with tobacco.

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May 8, 2016 21:17:58 GMT Perpetua said:

May 8, 2016 18:58:50 GMT calnorth said:

As regards the original question I believe Perpetua has Nic at about 4 years under ice conditions.

Over 5 years now some of my stash calnorth .

If you're not permitted to use your family freezer and don't have anyone who would keep some for you @kopiert , then the next best thing you could do is to decant your base into amber glass bottle(s) it's the best colour for preventing degradation  . . . . and find the coldest dark place possible to store it. How about a cool bag with some ice blocks as a thought?

That should give you a couple of years at least for it to be usable.

Thank you. I am going to fight for my right....to freeze

Within two years I hope to be nic free, so there's a target

Nick

[jtc]

Cheers Postmodern Smoking
So it looks like grow your own tobacco might be common place soon

[jtc]

Yes @kopiert I've made my first zero nic juices today.
I'm only on 2mg right now so I'm giving it a bash when they have steeped

[Postmodern Smoking]

May 8, 2016 22:39:18 GMT jtc said:

Cheers Postmodern Smoking
So it looks like grow your own tobacco might be common place soon

Extraction would be the problem .... without suitable lab equipment and knowledge! 
May come a time that you need to befriend our resident chemist *-SARIN-* !

[jtc]

Yes he certainly has knowledge on this from what I've seen.
Nic free is the way I'm going.
I'd be well chuffed to vape zero if I can

[tim]

May 8, 2016 19:43:30 GMT calnorth said:

Its a chemistry question and I'm sure at the molecular level stuff is going to change in contact with air. Whats in that air is something else. Simply observe what happens to metals. Everything relates to time and its the time taken to degrade.

The funny thing is, the thing that gives life, is the same thing that destroys everything. Oxygen. And it makes up about 21% of air.

Edit: Actually, it's not funny, more ironic

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May 8, 2016 22:41:16 GMT jtc said:

Yes @kopiert I've made my first zero nic juices today.
I'm only on 2mg right now so I'm giving it a bash when they have steeped

If my maths is right a litre of 72mg nic @ 2mg juice will give you 36 litres. If you vape 10ml per day that will last almost 10 years. If you sub-ohm it will last about six weeks

Then again my maths might be very wrong

[Postmodern Smoking]

May 8, 2016 23:23:13 GMT @kopiert said:

If my maths is right a litre of 72mg nic @ 2mg juice will give you 36 litres. If you vape 10ml per day that will last almost 10 years. If you sub-ohm it will last about six weeks

Then again my maths might be very wrong

Yup, 36 litres ..... although maybe a bit optimistic re. 6 weeks sub-ohming

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I sub-ohm and only go through about 4.5ml a day
what am i doing wrong lol