Nicotine?

[jacq]

Will it last longer if I put it in the fridge? Bit worried about putting it in the freezer in case the bottle cracks!

[Perpetua]

May 29, 2016 3:26:09 GMT jacq said:

Will it last longer if I put it in the fridge? Bit worried about putting it in the freezer in case the bottle cracks!

It won't . . . VG/PG doesn't freeze solid, so it won't expand to cause the glass to crack. The fridge is better than nothing, but ' frozen ' is still considerably the better option.

DarkStar do infact sell Freezer Packs . . . . .

My Apocalypse Stash taken out whilst I quickly defrosted my little Nic Base freezer - some have been in there for 5years.






allaboute-cigarettes.proboards.com/thread/48111/bulk-nicotine?page=1

[Puffing Billy]

Afraid I wouldn't be able to negotiate storage rights for a stash that big. Had to settle for 3 x 1L bottles in the fridge. It's cool and dark (mostly) and doesn't use up too much food space.

I have been contemplating the value (or not) of a trickle of argon in the tops of open bottles. Anyone know if you could safely use welding argon?

[car147]

May 29, 2016 12:07:22 GMT Puffing Billy said:

Afraid I wouldn't be able to negotiate storage rights for a stash that big. Had to settle for 3 x 1L bottles in the fridge. It's cool and dark (mostly) and doesn't use up too much food space.

I have been contemplating the value (or not) of a trickle of argon in the tops of open bottles. Anyone know if you could safely use welding argon?

*-SARIN-* would be best to ask .

[tim]

May 29, 2016 12:07:22 GMT Puffing Billy said:

Afraid I wouldn't be able to negotiate storage rights for a stash that big. Had to settle for 3 x 1L bottles in the fridge. It's cool and dark (mostly) and doesn't use up too much food space.

I have been contemplating the value (or not) of a trickle of argon in the tops of open bottles. Anyone know if you could safely use welding argon?

If it's cold and dark (mostly), that will suffice. UV light and heat are the enemy. Artificial light is almost not a problem.

Airtight is also a good idea, so argon, being an inert gas, should be fine, but as mentioned, you need to ask a chemist.

[domejunky]

I've been using CO2 - putting the Nic in Belgian beer bottles with oxygen scavenging bottle caps. I brew beer, so just treated it like beer...

[Puffing Billy]

May 29, 2016 21:14:17 GMT tim said:

If it's cold and dark (mostly), that will suffice. UV light and heat are the enemy. Artificial light is almost not a problem.

Airtight is also a good idea, so argon, being an inert gas, should be fine, but as mentioned, you need to ask a chemist.

Knowing our chemist, I'd probably be better off asking a welder.

[Puffing Billy]

May 29, 2016 23:27:53 GMT domejunky said:

I've been using CO2 - putting the Nic in Belgian beer bottles with oxygen scavenging bottle caps. I brew beer, so just treated it like beer...

Using CO₂ is probably just fine for beer but I'm not sure whether the nic-base might absorb it to produce a cheeky little sparkling e-liquid.

[domejunky]

No. It's not under pressure. I fill the bottles with CO2, then that gets displaced as the Nic goes in...

[buggritt]

It's like an episode of the Mad Scientist. Beginners beware for france's sake.
Amber glass, argon and CO2. Syringes, weighing and other peeing about.
None of that for me. In the freezer, whatever bottle it came in. A measuring cylinder, a bit of guesswork and done in less than five minutes.

[Puffing Billy]

May 30, 2016 19:01:36 GMT buggritt said:

It's like an episode of the Mad Scientist. Beginners beware for france's sake.
Amber glass, argon and CO2. Syringes, weighing and other peeing about.
None of that for me. In the freezer, whatever bottle it came in. A measuring cylinder, a bit of guesswork and done in less than five minutes.

How really, really interesting!

[Perpetua]

May 30, 2016 19:01:36 GMT buggritt said:

Amber glass, argon and CO2. Syringes, weighing and other peeing about.
None of that for me. In the freezer, whatever bottle it came in. A measuring cylinder, a bit of guesswork and done in less than five minutes.

Each to their own buggritt . . . . and whilst I'm of the faff free top it up until it looks about right in the bottle persuasion, decanting Nic Base into Amber glass if you intend on long term storage - does make sense to preserve the contents from potential degradation for as long as possible.

I know you'll do as you choose, which is your prerogative - but for any casual reader of this thread, I would like to think that they are seeing the best advice possible on Nicotine Base storage. 

[buggritt]

The casual reader would give the whole malarkey a body swerve perhaps? Misceivous maybe, but my point was it can be as complicsted or not as you wish. Not one person has any proof that nic degrades less in an amber glass bottle. Or that plastic leeches into liquid, which is a bit far fetched

[tim]

May 30, 2016 21:30:30 GMT buggritt said:

The casual reader would give the whole malarkey a body swerve perhaps? Misceivous maybe, but my point was it can be as complicsted or not as you wish. Not one person has any proof that nic degrades less in an amber glass bottle. Or that plastic leeches into liquid, which is a bit far fetched

Maybe not, but uv light degrades most things, so it's better to protect from it.

[DiscoDes]

May 30, 2016 21:47:48 GMT tim said:

May 30, 2016 21:30:30 GMT buggritt said:

The casual reader would give the whole malarkey a body swerve perhaps? Misceivous maybe, but my point was it can be as complicsted or not as you wish. Not one person has any proof that nic degrades less in an amber glass bottle. Or that plastic leeches into liquid, which is a bit far fetched

Maybe not, but uv light degrades most things, so it's better to protect from it.

I think you're safe fron UV light in a Freezer!