Rose V3 cloned already

[SteveF]

Aug 13, 2016 13:45:39 GMT drunkenbum said:

There's a big difference in quality. The machining on the high end atties is far better than the cheap ones. Personally I'm a firm believer of you get what you pay for.

I don't doubt that there is a difference in manufacturing quality. You can see it in most clones, the slightly rough threads, the grub screws made from toffee.
I know that there are tooling costs and design, material sourcing right down to packaging and advertising costs.

I would like to own a few originals, the way I see it, they would be more realistic at half the price.

[Get Off My Cloud]

Volume makes a huge difference in price too as does labour costs.

[drunkenbum]

Aug 13, 2016 15:53:46 GMT Get Off My Cloud said:

Volume makes a huge difference in price too as does labour costs.

Exactly, Chinese factories make huge volumes and pay their staff peanuts.
They also don't spend any money on development as they just use other people ideas

[-V-]

From what I've heard the spring thing on the airflow ring on the V3 is not that good at all, and also not very tight as a spring.
When I watched the few videos on it and saw that spring it put me off and wondered why couldn't they have done it a different way...

[thebishman]

Aug 13, 2016 13:45:39 GMT drunkenbum said:

There's a big difference in quality. The machining on the high end atties is far better than the cheap ones. Personally I'm a firm believer of you get what you pay for.

I couldnt agree more about the machine etc. But it doesnt give a better vape because of it.
Plus ive been surprised how good the machining is on alot of the low end stuff

[SteveF]

Aug 13, 2016 19:20:15 GMT thebishman said:

Aug 13, 2016 13:45:39 GMT drunkenbum said:

There's a big difference in quality. The machining on the high end atties is far better than the cheap ones. Personally I'm a firm believer of you get what you pay for.

I couldnt agree more about the machine etc. But it doesnt give a better vape because of it.
Plus ive been surprised how good the machining is on alot of the low end stuff

It's not as if the gear is knocked out by half a dozen 10 year olds using a pedal powered lathe for a bowl of rice and a good beating every time they drop a piece of swarf.

[macmagoo]

Aug 13, 2016 10:15:34 GMT thebishman said:

Not hearing good things about the rose v3.

What does that mean exactly?

[thebishman]

Aug 13, 2016 21:33:40 GMT macmagoo said:

Aug 13, 2016 10:15:34 GMT thebishman said:

Not hearing good things about the rose v3.

What does that mean exactly?

Poor afc ring. Flavour not 120 quids worth of great. I cannot confirm this as not tried one myself but a few friends have bought them and already selling them. One lad bought 2!

[Greg]

Butter smooth threads don't give a better vape

[Lee]

3fVape have pictures of the Rose clone stripped down
www.3fvape.com/rebuildable-atomizer-supply/11438-rose-v3-style-rta-rebuildable-tank-atomizer-silver-316-stainless-steel-5ml-22mm-diameter.html#.V7LK9v5TFPY

[chykensa]

I take all the points about high-end mods, butter-smooth threads, better machining, etc., but as Greg says, that doesn't make a better more flavoursome vape.
I bought two new tanks last week, both genuine not clones, for less than £50. One, the iJoy Tornado, is really well machined, with good threads and grubscrews that feel solid enough. It goes together really well, and apart from the technical side of building and wicking, is a really well put together atomiser.
The other, a Geekvape Eagle, is equally well made, everything goes together smoothly, and the pre-built and wicked coils are awesome - i have the dual Clapton base (for ID purposes only!) and at .15ohm they are really excellent, a warm flavoursome vape. And when the Custard which is flowing at an alarming rate past these coils gunks them up, I strip the cotton out, dry burn, rewick and off we go again!

I can see the allure (I think) of owning an atomiser which costs over £100, but it does beg the question, with so much good quality original equipment coming out at good prices now, do we really need to spend this much? I appreciate that R and D costs money, but Geekvape are coming up with good original thinking, and they manage to do it at an affordable price.

An interesting debate which I will follow with interest.

[*-SARIN-*]

Price put me off. I had a rose V2 both original and clone and tbh the price difference didn't match the quality. Granted the original was better machined but £100 better? No way! On top of this and the biggest gripe i had was the fact that the thing couldn't be trusted to behave. You couldn't go out with it because it would leak, not wick properly, all manner of annoying issues, both the original and the clone. The flavour was superb after the nightmare of setting it up, ceramic cap in the bin straight away, messing around with the stupid channels. The way that the coils went into the vertical holes i thought was genius initially but this soon turned to despair and the annoyance of repeatedly cutting the coil legs down every time. Don't even get me started on the juice flow control, no removable drip tip...argggghhhhh, it's making me mad just thinking about it tbh. I wanted to love the Rose but in the end it went the way of a lot of atties...keeping an Orchid company in a landfill site! I had a look at the V3 at VF but decided against it and i think that it was the right decision. The few people i know that have one are trying their best to love it, mainly due to the cost but it's fate i feel is sealed!

[phtumshk]

Granted theres is a lot of reasonably priced original equipment available but not everybody wants to subohm.
The high end stuff is generally geared more towards the MTLers.

[Bobsbeer]

Being slightly cynical, the high price is used to recoup the investment as fast as possible with limited sales and before clones and fashion consign the original to the scrap heap in the sky.

[SteveF]

Aug 16, 2016 10:36:38 GMT Bobsbeer said:

Being slightly cynical, the high price is used to recoup the investment as fast as possible with limited sales and before clones and fashion consign the original to the scrap heap in the sky.

thats a good point but surely a reasonably priced original would make it more successful.