menthol crystals

[SteveF]

ok, I've dropped my nicotine content and combined with a lingering cold given myself vapers tongue. Typically everything tastes like cack and I need to take a break from my usual flavours.
Not really into menthol but unflavoured is pretty much the pits.

So I'd like recommendations for making a concentrate from menthol crystals please.
I've seen two general methods
10% mix 1g : 9ml or what looks like the full on supersaturated solution.

Starting levels of either in a 100ml mix?

Also read about adding koolada? Pointless or does it add extra depth?

Cheers Steve

[phtumshk]

super saturated is best IMO, a few drops is all ya need then to add the punch to any bottle of juice.
I just crush up the bigger crystals to smaller 1s (not like powder) then fill a 10ml bottle with em & top off with pg.
Warm it up a bit till its all dissolved.

[Perpetua]

Dec 14, 2016 22:32:34 GMT SteveF said:

Also read about adding koolada? Pointless or does it add extra depth?

Pointless  . . . . but I'm not a fan of Koolada anyway, it's something you could always add at a later stage if you felt the mix needed it SteveF .

To add depth to a Menthol mix, you'd be better adding some Spearmint ( which helps to sweeten it a little ), Peppermint or Eucalyptus. DV make a terrific Mentholyptus concentrate so the flavours do work really well together.

www.chefsflavours.co.uk/dv-concentrates/2515-mentholyptus.html

Flavours like Aniseed, Wintergreen and Horehound are also good ' combiner's ' with Menthol.

[SteveF]

Dec 14, 2016 23:42:26 GMT Perpetua said:

Dec 14, 2016 22:32:34 GMT SteveF said:

Also read about adding koolada? Pointless or does it add extra depth?

Pointless  . . . . but I'm not a fan of Koolada anyway, it's something you could always add at a later stage if you felt the mix needed it SteveF .

To add depth to a Menthol mix, you'd be better adding some Spearmint ( which helps to sweeten it a little ), Peppermint or Eucalyptus. DV make a terrific Mentholyptus concentrate so the flavours do work really well together.

www.chefsflavours.co.uk/dv-concentrates/2515-mentholyptus.html

Flavours like Aniseed, Wintergreen and Horehound are also good ' combiner's ' with Menthol.

thankyou Perpetua, Eucalyptus / mentholyptus is more my personal taste but it's an emergency shake and vape situation.
I'll pick up a packet of Hall's whilst I'm in the chemists.

phtumshk, I'll go for the 10% solution...solution, I can be a bit heavy jandea bit more leeway for experimenting

[SteveF]

whoops

[jevans]

My Menthol mix has always been 5gms crystals dissolved in 50ml PG and used at 8%.

Jim

[SteveF]

Cheers Jim, first mix made up and I'm happy with 6%, can always go up a little from there. pretty sure the flavour will increase overnight.
Its not bad actually, a damned sight better than the distant memory of menthol cigs.

[jtc]

Aww get well soon SteveF

[SteveF]

Dec 15, 2016 15:13:52 GMT jtc said:

Aww get well soon SteveF

cheers

[cigeliquid]

Notes on menthol crystals--
When making a concentrate from Menthol crystals
1 Don't forget to wash your hands after handling menthol crystals as rubbing your eyes = aaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrfffffffffuuuuuuuaaaaaarrrr
2 Menthol crystals dissolve well in PG -- But won't dissolve in pure VG - They will in warm VG but will soon re-crystalliz when liquid is cooled

[yourgurnard]

Yep, had to hunt out My menthol crystals this morn. too:- for the same reason as the OP! Only time they get used.

[SteveF]

Dec 16, 2016 21:00:53 GMT cigeliquid said:

Notes on menthol crystals--
When making a concentrate from Menthol crystals
1 Don't forget to wash your hands after handling menthol crystals as rubbing your eyes = aaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrfffffffffuuuuuuuaaaaaarrrr
2 Menthol crystals dissolve well in PG -- But won't dissolve in pure VG - They will in warm VG but will soon re-crystalliz when liquid is cooled

I treat menthol like chillis, definitely wash hands after use because you never know where you will get that hot/cool sensation

[chykensa]

I have some Menthol crystals in PG solution for emergencies, and my current cold may just be one of them! I've just filled up my Baby Beast with Rocket Fuel (a take on Red Astaire) which should do the job while I'm out for a birthday meal tonight!

[charliehorse]

I came across this at some point for TPA menthol concentrate - about 1 third crystals to two thirds PG by weight

shop.perfumersapprentice.com/p-7355-menthol-liquid-pg.aspx

It means you can replicate the same strength of flavour every time

[cigeliquid]

Dec 17, 2016 17:52:12 GMT charliehorse said:

I came across this at some point for TPA menthol concentrate - about 1 third crystals to two thirds PG by weight

shop.perfumersapprentice.com/p-7355-menthol-liquid-pg.aspx

It means you can replicate the same strength of flavour every time

The link suggests

For 1000 grams
660 grams menthol crystals
340 grams PG

So, about 1 third PG and two thirds Menthol, by weight.

You can't dissolve that precent /weight of menthol crystals in PG ------ Solubility in Propylene Glycol is up to 50%