Struggling a bit

[crag]

Apr 1, 2017 13:49:55 GMT djs said:

There really is no "closest to tobacco smoke" crag

(This from someone who vapes a tobacco-style every day)....

Manabush is a step up from ecigwizard though... (which I wouldn't waste any money on in all honesty)....

You should make you own long-term unless you go all fruity.

Oh don't get me started with DIY. I'm enough of a problem on these boards with 'Ready Mades'  

Saying that. I have 10ml of grape that I can't stand, (surprisingly by ecigwizard) that may have to be added to something at a later date to use up. 

I've read there are no 'close to tobacco flavours' but they all seem to claim one in their products. 

But even if I've a garbage flavour in the tank, when there's a chance to vape, I can't put the damn thing down, but on the plus side, it keeps me from smoking. 

[djs]

Apr 1, 2017 18:15:53 GMT crag said:

I have 10ml of grape that I can't stand, (surprisingly by ecigwizard) that may have to be added to something at a later date to use up. 

...but they all seem to claim one in their products. 

1) No surprise. Their attitude to liquid is the same as hardware... charge too much for everything, make out how special they are. Don't fall for it. There at least 10 other UK brands that fall into this category.

They are not the worst (££), but they try pretty hard to be 'something' but come out close to the bottom. Dreadful.

2) They all say that.

However, if it's keeping you off the smokes, that's what we like to hear. The longer you can go, the more your permanent chances increase.

Hang in there.

[crag]

Ah, I have anxcuse for using ecigwazard.

I went instore to buy some flavours, unaware i could try some, but I was desperate as the couple of bottles I bought online (from elsewhere) with the T18 were so bad I needed something quick.

Anyway when I went instore, I couldnt see, and the smell of whatever was choking. I explained I'd only just got my first ecig, but they tried to embarrass me in front of some seasoned vapers. They then tried to sell me from the bargain bucket. I asked for a strawberry, as you do, and Dark Horse and a Grape, was also handed to me.

So I won't be going back or purchasing anything off them in future.

Sorry, but it's the best excuse I have,

As I mentioned before, 'Vaping for Dummies' is not so easy when the only option is to buy online.
I know we all have differing tastes, but I had it in my head that a lot of vapers are ex smokers, and probably have had their taste buds battered by smoking, but have found a flavour/brand etc that has become a standard for those new to vaping.
After all there are favoured analogues that are way more popular than other brands, if you get my drift

[gill2009]

Apr 1, 2017 19:15:32 GMT crag said:

Ah, I have anxcuse for using ecigwazard.

I went instore to buy some flavours, unaware i could try some, but I was desperate as the couple of bottles I bought online (from elsewhere) with the T18 were so bad I needed something quick.

Anyway when I went instore, I couldnt see, and the smell of whatever was choking. I explained I'd only just got my first ecig, but they tried to embarrass me in front of some seasoned vapers. They then tried to sell me from the bargain bucket. I asked for a strawberry, as you do, and Dark Horse and a Grape, was also handed to me.

So I won't be going back or purchasing anything off them in future.

Sorry, but it's the best excuse I have,

As I mentioned before, 'Vaping for Dummies' is not so easy when the only option is to buy online.
I know we all have differing tastes, but I had it in my head that a lot of vapers are ex smokers, and probably have had their taste buds battered by smoking, but have found a flavour/brand etc that has become a standard for those new to vaping.
After all there are favoured analogues that are way more popular than other brands, if you get my drift

  That is shocking behaviour from a vendor crag...but not all are like that...you will get there...just keep coming back on here, & we'll help you to find a juice that hits the spot 

[crag]

Thank you Gill2009

[heisenberg8]

Go & buy 18mg Manabush Nokomis & thank me later

[DaveJ]

Apr 1, 2017 12:35:38 GMT crag said:

I'm doing ok leaving the analogues alone, and happy with that, ....

Great news! One day at a time.. pretty soon you'll be celebrating your 3 months, then 1 year smoke free.

Apr 1, 2017 12:35:38 GMT crag said:

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but suffering a bit with frustration on flavours, and having to put up with some bad tastes.

I'm reading about so many different brands, and as an example, reviews on tobacco flavours and the vast majority that xxxxxx brand is the closest flavour to real tobacco.

Ah, well, there's the age old thing. Trying to get a flavour that resembles what you smoked.

When I first started vaping to quit smoking, I was one of those who thought I wanted a tobacco flavour to replicate what I smoked. I didn't listen to those who told me differently. I soon found that there are many tobacco flavoured juices - and many do resemble the smell of the dry tobacco leaf. But I've never found a vape that tastes like the draw from a burning cigarette. In the end, after quite a few disappointing encounters with various tobacco flavours, I found my joy in numerous other very unlikely directions - bakery, fruits and such.

Apr 1, 2017 12:35:38 GMT crag said:

Then researching into flavours so as not to buy stuff that's becoming unavailable.
I expected to buy the odd bottle now and again for variation, but not this much.
I've ordered a few different fruit ones today, and that's the end of my ordering for a while till I finish a few. There's one or two that I won't load up with again. But I will add some Omusa with the PowWow again as PowWow on its own isn't for me. The mix was good earlier.

It's worse than giving up smoking, lol

Yes - it can be a trial can't it?

It is early days for you. Your taste will be messed up by the years of smoking and that is likely to start to repair in time to come. So what you find you like now may well change as your taste recovers.

I suggest you do what I ought have done in my early days - scatter gun order a whole bunch of random flavours and try them all. Re-order only those you like. In these early days you should expect to buy quite a number of flavours you do not like until you find what you like. That is to be expected and something most of us have done. Minimise the "wasted cost" by ordering small sized bottles until you find flavours you do really enjoy.

Take comfort in knowing that the small amount of money "wasted" on juices that do not suit you is small compared to those cigarettes that were hurting you.

Apr 1, 2017 18:15:53 GMT crag said:

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But even if I've a garbage flavour in the tank, when there's a chance to vape, I can't put the damn thing down, but on the plus side, it keeps me from smoking.

That's great!

Just spend a bit of time and money trying different flavours to find the ones you enjoy and things will look up even more.

Apr 1, 2017 19:15:32 GMT crag said:

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As I mentioned before, 'Vaping for Dummies' is not so easy when the only option is to buy online.

Sorry to hear of your bad encounter with a real world vape shop. Online ordering isn't all that bad.... it's the only option I have!

Apr 1, 2017 19:15:32 GMT crag said:

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I know we all have differing tastes, but I had it in my head that a lot of vapers are ex smokers, and probably have had their taste buds battered by smoking, but have found a flavour/brand etc that has become a standard for those new to vaping.
After all there are favoured analogues that are way more popular than other brands, if you get my drift

Don't be scared to run several flavours concurrently (fill two or three different tanks) and swap them about for a change/rest. Many of us do that.

Congrats on making it this far... and keep it up, the rewards are well worth your while.

[decoy]

Apr 1, 2017 19:15:32 GMT crag said:

Ah, I have anxcuse for using ecigwazard.

I went instore to buy some flavours, unaware i could try some, but I was desperate as the couple of bottles I bought online (from elsewhere) with the T18 were so bad I needed something quick.

Anyway when I went instore, I couldnt see, and the smell of whatever was choking. I explained I'd only just got my first ecig, but they tried to embarrass me in front of some seasoned vapers. They then tried to sell me from the bargain bucket. I asked for a strawberry, as you do, and Dark Horse and a Grape, was also handed to me.

So I won't be going back or purchasing anything off them in future.

Sorry, but it's the best excuse I have,

As I mentioned before, 'Vaping for Dummies' is not so easy when the only option is to buy online.
I know we all have differing tastes, but I had it in my head that a lot of vapers are ex smokers, and probably have had their taste buds battered by smoking, but have found a flavour/brand etc that has become a standard for those new to vaping.
After all there are favoured analogues that are way more popular than other brands, if you get my drift

to be fair when i 1st started vapeing all i wanted was tobacco but any i tried was orrible
from so called goleden vergina to ry4 it all tasted gank but then i found this stuff called hot cherry tobacco (not available any more and it was a tank cracker)
i did cave in at one point and tried cherry bakewell and that was it i found generally if i like to eat stuff i like to vape it(but not smokey bacon lol)
slushy flavors can be nice as well and work well for vapor tongue with out being to strong
at this point its not so much about finding something you like but more that is acceptable

dont get me started on some of the vape shops run buy youngsters with beards
all ill say is if you know they have something at a price your willing to pay and you want it ,walk in buy it and walk out
pref with out killing anyone

 

[goneforagasper]

The hardest part of my 3 year vaping journey has been finding flavours that I like crag. I am lucky that I now have about 8 ADV's that I am happy with.
I can make 12 samples, leave them to steep for 4 weeks and if 1 of them is right for me I think that is a result. You have to kiss a lot of frogs before you find a prince.
Mixing is a benefit in as much as you can change aand tweek untill you get it right, if you don't want to mix then I would suggest you find a good B&M where you can try lots at your leisure. If you add your location I am sure someone will point you in the right direction for a friendly B&M.

[chykensa]

I agree with much of what has been said above crag. It's trial and error until you find some nice flavours, but be prepared to fall 'out of love' with them as your tastebuds recover after smoking. Be brave and go for flavours that you think you won't like - there are thousands of good flavours out there, and you just don't know what floats your boat until you try them.
There are some great online vendors out there, and if you want some suggestions I'm sure we can point you in the right direction.
Remember that every day you vape is another day away from tobacco addiction, and another step towards being nicotine-dependent, a very different thing altogether. Keep at it,, and keep asking for advice, it's free here, and in plentiful supply

[crag]

Apr 1, 2017 23:50:56 GMT heisenberg8 said:

Go & buy 18mg Manabush Nokomis & thank me later

I found 18mg Chiricahua Sun better so far, and by mistake I've found mixing Omusa with PowWow juice even better

[pacman]

Yes I love Manabush and bcl tobacco flavours. Also like mom and pops tobacco blaze and tjuice TY4. Strange that lots of people rate HOL but I really hated them so taste is very subjective and I'm sure that you'll find some that suits your taste buds.

[crag]

Apr 2, 2017 5:55:40 GMT DaveJ said:

Ah, well, there's the age old thing. Trying to get a flavour that resembles what you smoked.



When I first started vaping to quit smoking, I was one of those who thought I wanted a tobacco flavour to replicate what I smoked. I didn't listen to those who told me differently. I soon found that there are many tobacco flavoured juices - and many do resemble the smell of the dry tobacco leaf. But I've never found a vape that tastes like the draw from a burning cigarette. In the end, after quite a few disappointing encounters with various tobacco flavours, I found my joy in numerous other very unlikely directions - bakery, fruits and such.

My seach criteria is firstly for a big flavour, with a big throat hit, more importantly than the tobacco flavour, for somebody who through smoking has lost his taste buds somewhat.

The tobacco flavour is probably helping as an ADV because im not getting that throat hit we can associate with middle tar cigarettes, or a strong enough flavour that also sticks in the mouth to remind you that you have just vaped.

What I require is probably what a seasoned vaper would describe as 'harsh'. The mix of Omusa and PowWow juice isn't the best of flavours but it's throat hit is quite good

[crag]

Apr 2, 2017 8:55:37 GMT chykensa said:

I agree with much of what has been said above crag . It's trial and error until you find some nice flavours, but be prepared to fall 'out of love' with them as your tastebuds recover after smoking. Be brave and go for flavours that you think you won't like - there are thousands of good flavours out there, and you just don't know what floats your boat until you try them.
There are some great online vendors out there, and if you want some suggestions I'm sure we can point you in the right direction.
Remember that every day you vape is another day away from tobacco addiction, and another step towards being nicotine-dependent, a very different thing altogether. Keep at it,, and keep asking for advice, it's free here, and in plentiful supply

 Cheers Bud

I'm willing to try Good Vendors. I shant be throwing away the liquids I'm not too keen on, as like you say my taste buds may improve in time.
In the tobacco flavours I've ordered this weekend, one is a 24mg, which was against my stance on not buying things that would be not available after 20th May. But maybe I wanted to find what a higher nic would be like.

[crag]

Apr 2, 2017 8:34:16 GMT goneforagasper said:

The hardest part of my 3 year vaping journey has been finding flavours that I like crag . I am lucky that I now have about 8 ADV's that I am happy with.
I can make 12 samples, leave them to steep for 4 weeks and if 1 of them is right for me I think that is a result. You have to kiss a lot of frogs before you find a prince.
Mixing is a benefit in as much as you can change aand tweek untill you get it right, if you don't want to mix then I would suggest you find a good B&M where you can try lots at your leisure. If you add your location I am sure someone will point you in the right direction for a friendly B&M.

Thanks. It's too early for DIY I think. Although if Vapourlites Tobacco was the only thing available, then I think I'd vape bleach. I need some more learning at present.

Even though things backfired on them, Ecigwizard have put me off going in to a store. I get no kicks out of confrontation.