Another noob says "Hello"!

[Brian]

May 15, 2012 10:11:45 GMT kurotoshiro said:

Thanks for all the replies!

I just want to check that I understand the difference between the argento and mini-argento. Is it just that one runs at 3.7v and the other runs at either 3.7v or 6v? Are they essentially the same otherwise?
In my understanding. The mini takes a single 18350 battery, the standard one takes a 18650. The larger battery will therefore give a longer lifespan between charges. I dont thin you can, or should, stack batteries.

Also: what are the pros and cons of opting for VV? I'm assuming the main advantage is you can tweak the voltage up or down to fine-tune how different cartos / juices perform. Is that basically it, or am I missing something else important?

Pretty spot on id say!

May 15, 2012 9:44:29 GMT Fog On The Tyne Ltd said:

I think if Stars do buy them out, it'll be very bad for the game. Stars would have no real competition so rake would never come down. Plus, chances are they would just buy it to stop them re-opening.

Hmm, I'm inclined to be a bit more optimistic. If part of the deal is that the DoJ will allow Stars back into the US market, and that market eventually becomes fully legal and properly legislated (as now seems more or less inevitable) then Stars ought to have serious competitors, given that the major B&M casino companies will be jumping to get into a legalised US online market, and will no doubt want to challenge Stars for their ROW player-base as well.

May 15, 2012 9:44:29 GMT Fog On The Tyne Ltd said:

Since I really will be making no sense to anyone but you

lol. "Triple range merging", eh?

[kurotoshiro]

So where it says on the page www.britvapes.co.uk/Argento/p1204754_5844686.aspx that "The Argento can run at either 3.7v using an 18650 or 6v using two 16340", I should ignore this, as stacking batteries is never advisable?


[EDIT:] Another quick question - on the banner-maker page, is there a way to preview what it will look like? Can it be changed once set? Cheers!

[Brian]

Did nt see that you could use 16340 batteries, but i wont stack them, as im happy at 3.7 volt.

Yes it can be changed once youve seen what it looks like

[kurotoshiro]

May 15, 2012 8:55:30 GMT Batdragon (AKA Batty) said:

If you want to try some other juice have a look at this post allaboute-cigarettes.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=suppliers&action=display&thread=6510&page=6 there miight be some still left.

There was indeed! Thanks for the heads-up on this - much appreciated!

[Karma]

Using low resistance at 3.7 should give you a great vape without resorting to stacked batteries, so yes, i would ignore the bit about using 2 16340s

[Bluefish]

May 15, 2012 12:16:40 GMT Karma said:

Using low resistance at 3.7 should give you a great vape without resorting to stacked batteries, so yes, i would ignore the bit about using 2 16340s

Yeah, 6v will blow your head clean orf, How doo noob

[kurotoshiro]

Hey, Bluefish, just noticed you're from Nelson. I grew up there, even though I live in Leeds these days. Coincidentally, I was having a look at Nelson on Google Streetview just the other day - I haven't been back there for years and I was curious to see if Oscar's Video still existed - quite surprised to see it does!

[dave]

Hi kuro welcome to the forum from me too. Battery mods like the Argento are great and very good value. What you say about the advantage of VV being you can tweak the voltage is very true, but once you have found the voltage level you like for a particular 'miser the other big advantage is that a VV device will hold the voltage constant whereas with a battery mod the voltage will gradually fall off as the battery discharges.

[Chrissie]

Kuroto, I'm originally from Hull - not a million miles from Leeds

[Bluefish]

May 15, 2012 16:55:55 GMT kurotoshiro said:

Hey, Bluefish, just noticed you're from Nelson. I grew up there, even though I live in Leeds these days. Coincidentally, I was having a look at Nelson on Google Streetview just the other day - I haven't been back there for years and I was curious to see if Oscar's Video still existed - quite surprised to see it does!

Hi mate, yeah i live there, but not from here, i'm just lucky i guess, lol. hardly ever go into the town center, it's some where you go through to get to burnley usually although since i've started vapeing, i have been to the post office quite a lot lol

[leftfield]

I also play guitar, mostly bluesy rythem and poker. Five card draw only though, I can't stand hold'em or the 34394 variants of what I think is dumbed down all-in bingo player poker. Err, sorry if you play hold'em lol

Sounds like you're off to a great start though, already know all the lingo which is one of the annoying things.

I went joye 510 -> ego -> ego T atomisers (fail!) -> ego booster (got it cheeeap oh yeah) -> 3.7v box mod (not much better than an ego) -> kr808d-1/volt (pocket rocket, like a mini riva compared to ego, good stuff, good stuff)

Then, the holy grail emerged... CE2! I put it on everything and still use it exclusively months later. CE2

Then... and only then, in December, did the lavatube bless my credit card and letterbox. It outshines everything I own because I'm not rich enough to buy a lot of mods but hey it's the poor man's provari! Life without it would be weird and everything else I would not be sad to let go of.

Now I'm a happy vaper with no intent to buy new gear... maybe just a few more things first...

[kurotoshiro]

May 15, 2012 20:55:56 GMT leftfield said:

I went joye 510 -> ego -> ego T atomisers (fail!) -> ego booster (got it cheeeap oh yeah) -> 3.7v box mod (not much better than an ego) -> kr808d-1/volt (pocket rocket, like a mini riva compared to ego, good stuff, good stuff)

Then, the holy grail emerged... CE2!

I like this little potted history! It's reassuring to know that other people have had to try several different set-ups before they discover what really works for them.

May 15, 2012 20:55:56 GMT leftfield said:

I can't stand hold'em or the 34394 variants of what I think is dumbed down all-in bingo player poker. Err, sorry if you play hold'em lol

lol, well, yeah, I know exactly what you're getting at, but I do tend to enjoy any type of poker. The "all in bingo" phenomenon usually occurs in no limit tournaments where the stacks are short (or become short quite quickly). I guess there are 3 things I'd say about this: (1) Most variants of poker (including draw games) can be played in a short-stack no limit tournament format. So it's not just hold em that can end up being "all in bingo". Any type of poker can end up like this! (2) Hold em doesn't have to be played no limit - it can be played with fixed limit betting, which means there are no "all ins" at all (apart from when someone only has a handful of small chips left). (3) Even when hold em is played as a no limit game, if the stacks are deep enough (say, 200+ big blinds), the number of "all ins" will be very minimal.

Of course there are some people who would defend what you're calling "all in bingo". Even in a short-stack no limit tournament, there's still a lot of skill involved in the "all in or fold" decisions. It just becomes a case of who knows the correct maths and who doesn't. Those who know the maths have a long-term edge over those who don't. Of course, in the short term, a hell of a lot of luck comes into play. Which is why a lot of people don't like it, and why it seems like it's just a lottery, or "bingo". The skilled players are often gaining around a 55%-45% edge over their less skilled opponents when they get it all in, which should profit them in the long term (over many thousands of individual tournaments) but it will often lead to short term swings of profit and loss.

[kernowman]

Hi mate,and a belated welcome.

[kurotoshiro]

So, here are my latest steps (and also my latest noob questions!) in my journey into the world of vaping:

The LR Boge cartos I ordered arrived. I wasn't sure what filling method to use, so I went with the condom method. I filled from the connector end of the carto, although I was a bit unsure about this, as I've seen videos of people plunging the open end as well. Anyway, it seemed to work fine (and it wasn't as messy as I thought it might be!)

If anyone has any views of better filling methods, I'd be interested to hear.

My initial thoughts are: I can appreciate the increased punch from these cartos, as compared with the standard atties I was using previously. At first, I was a little bit perturbed by the increased sensation of heat when drawing on them. But I'm getting used to that now, and it's fine, and I'm really enjoying the increased amount of vapour.

Flavour-wise, it's hard to say, as I've only used one carto with one type of juice so far. The juice is peanut butter, and from what I can tell, the cartos are giving me slightly more of the nutty flavour, and perhaps muting the sweetness a little bit. Does anyone think that for dessert flavours like this, or for more sweet flavours in general, I'd be better with some higher resistance cartos?

One thing I'm still not sure about is refilling. How often should I be doing this? Should I wait for the carto to run dry or until I start to get that distinctive burnt taste, or should I top up more often to keep it moist? (Am I right in thinking the latter will extend the life of the filler material?) Also, is it sufficient, after the initial condom fill, to keep topping up by dripping into the top, or should I also do some condom refills from the bottom as well?

Also (and this is my last question for the moment, honest!) what do people do in terms of swapping between juices? Do you rigidly stick to using 1 carto with 1 juice, and swap carto when you want to change flavour? Or do any of you just start refilling a carto that held one flavour with another? Or is this just a question of preference? (Even if it comes down to personal preference, I'm still interested to hear what different people prefer).

[Karma]

Yes, keep the carto wet

you may find one of these useful for topping up as you can get the liquid right into the filler

www.cig-eliquid.co.uk/spiky_thing_basic/p649230_5247562.aspx

on the whole I stick to 1 carto per juice but I will mix flavours that I think will be ok together