Is MTL making a comeback?

[GunJack]

Jun 18, 2018 20:47:14 GMT VapingBad said:

I'm interested on how the max of 20 mg (18 in real life) limit effects this, I have been testing a low power system and having to get close to that on a restricted MTL type vape.

..and the answer is - it depends on the individual as to how much nic you want/need, in the same way we all smoked different strength fags at differing quantities.

I started on 24mg juice, around 2ml a day. Still exclusively MTL, but mix at 9-ish mg and go through 5-6ml a day. Have been toying with the idea of increasing nic but consuming less juice a day, just as an experiment, to see if I can toot less for the same nic intake. Will let you know if/when I do and how it works out

[GunJack]

Jun 19, 2018 8:46:29 GMT GunJack said:

Jun 18, 2018 20:47:14 GMT VapingBad said:

I'm interested on how the max of 20 mg (18 in real life) limit effects this, I have been testing a low power system and having to get close to that on a restricted MTL type vape.

..and the answer is - it depends on the individual as to how much nic you want/need, in the same way we all smoked different strength fags at differing quantities.

I started on 24mg juice, around 2ml a day. Still exclusively MTL, but mix at 9-ish mg and go through 5-6ml a day. Have been toying with the idea of increasing nic but consuming less juice a day, just as an experiment, to see if I can toot less for the same nic intake. Will let you know if/when I do and how it works out

Just as an extra to this....

in the early days, the 24mg 2ml-a-day was very much consumed in the same way as smoking, i.e. toot for a short while, stop for an hour-ish, rinse & repeat. These days the 9mg 5-6ml-a-day is much more of a grazing pattern. I think that if I grazed at 24mg I'd end up in "nic overdose" like many of us used to in the early days, headache, nausea, etc. whilst getting used to the whole new vaping thing.

Think I'm gonna have to mix some 18mg this weekend...it'll take a couple or three weeks to steep, so won't be starting "the experiment" until partway through July. We'll see what happens......

[buggritt]

Seems to me to be simple arithmetic. You're using 3 times as much juice at about a 3rd of the strength. The only time I used a weaker strength I was gifted some 12mg premixed. Went through twice as much.
Would have liked a different outcome, as my nic would be lasting another 15 years.

[domesticextremist]

Jun 28, 2018 14:23:29 GMT GunJack said:

Just as an extra to this....

in the early days, the 24mg 2ml-a-day was very much consumed in the same way as smoking, i.e. toot for a short while, stop for an hour-ish, rinse & repeat. These days the 9mg 5-6ml-a-day is much more of a grazing pattern. I think that if I grazed at 24mg I'd end up in "nic overdose" like many of us used to in the early days, headache, nausea, etc. whilst getting used to the whole new vaping thing.

Think I'm gonna have to mix some 18mg this weekend...it'll take a couple or three weeks to steep, so won't be starting "the experiment" until partway through July. We'll see what happens......

Yes, I started on 24mg - it was necessary to mimic roll-up strength and to make up for the weediness of devices and cartos of the day.
Once carto tanks and decent clearos came along, onset of nic poisoning started to happen after a long session.
I have slowly gone down first to 18 mg, now to 12mg and my usage isn't up as much as I thought, certainly not double what I used to use.
Planning on dropping again in a year or so, so hpefully my nic stock pile will last a bit longer.

I think the trick is gentle reduction.
Apparently the body produces more nicotine receptors in heavy smokers, so gentle reduction is necessary to allow the body to adjust back.

[GunJack]

Jun 29, 2018 8:37:10 GMT buggritt said:

Seems to me to be simple arithmetic. You're using 3 times as much juice at about a 3rd of the strength. The only time I used a weaker strength I was gifted some 12mg premixed. Went through twice as much.
Would have liked a different outcome, as my nic would be lasting another 15 years.

On the face of it, yes it is simple for the same total qty of nic. However, there are other factors to consider...

the throat hit is reduced on 9mg (which I'm beginning to miss a bit tbh), and even at my normal 80% PG mix sometimes it feels a little lacking - upping the nic a bit would help with this. But then, it's not always lacking, so do I just keep a tank of stronger stuff to hand for those times? MAybe grazing doesn't help in this respect, but I enjoy it...

Topping up tanks more often is a bit of a PITA too at times.

[enjay]

Jun 9, 2018 18:17:02 GMT decoy said:

i started on mtl and still use it for high nic juice to stop my nic cravings
i got the cloud bug from enjay and was soon running a dripper on a mech at 0.2 ohms
then the kangertech subtank came out and i said it was a bad day for vapeing
next thing we know its getting banned all over the place thanks to retards cuckin sick clouds bro in shopping centers ,pubs ect
thanks to these loons i now have to check if its ok to use my little mtl setup in pubs and if they say no thats fairnuff
yes ive got a 200 watt gbox squonk thing thats good for clouds but i dont use it much in public and defo not inside public places
snd just to finish the rant
SHOPS THAT SELL SUBOHM KITS TO PEPS THAT WANT TO STOP SMOKING
it dont give you the same hit as a ciggy and never will but it will use a lot of juice and the coils wont be cheap
i cant imagine why the shop would do that
long live mtl

I still do both, always had a kfl+ as my main vape but also like low build a in drippers. It's not just all about the cloud though, if that cloud isn't all flavour I'm not interested.


About being banned in places, it's not cloud blowing, it's drunk smokers see people vaping and moan about why they can't smoke inside if vapers are allowed to vape.

You're allowed to vape your heart out outside the front of my local hospital but smoking is banned anywhere on the grounds so there is sense about lol.


Anyway I haven't read all the posts on here but just thought I'd reply to you first lol

[decoy]

Aug 6, 2018 4:21:39 GMT enjay said:

Jun 9, 2018 18:17:02 GMT decoy said:

i started on mtl and still use it for high nic juice to stop my nic cravings
i got the cloud bug from enjay and was soon running a dripper on a mech at 0.2 ohms
then the kangertech subtank came out and i said it was a bad day for vapeing
next thing we know its getting banned all over the place thanks to retards cuckin sick clouds bro in shopping centers ,pubs ect
thanks to these loons i now have to check if its ok to use my little mtl setup in pubs and if they say no thats fairnuff
yes ive got a 200 watt gbox squonk thing thats good for clouds but i dont use it much in public and defo not inside public places
snd just to finish the rant
SHOPS THAT SELL SUBOHM KITS TO PEPS THAT WANT TO STOP SMOKING
it dont give you the same hit as a ciggy and never will but it will use a lot of juice and the coils wont be cheap
i cant imagine why the shop would do that
long live mtl

I still do both, always had a kfl+ as my main vape but also like low build a in drippers. It's not just all about the cloud though, if that cloud isn't all flavour I'm not interested.


About being banned in places, it's not cloud blowing, it's drunk smokers see people vaping and moan about why they can't smoke inside if vapers are allowed to vape.

You're allowed to vape your heart out outside the front of my local hospital but smoking is banned anywhere on the grounds so there is sense about lol.


Anyway I haven't read all the posts on here but just thought I'd reply to you first lol

still say its your fault i can build fused clapton wire in my sleep lmao

[enjay]

Oh I'm not denying that 😂

[pixiguru]

I've tried subohming but don't really like it much prefer my ego batteries and 510 cartomisers...really old school and not fancy. But can vape on the sly and doesn't leak in my pocket at work.

[Perpetua]

Aug 18, 2018 17:49:42 GMT pixiguru said:

I've tried subohming but don't really like it much prefer my ego batteries and 510 cartomisers...really old school and not fancy.

Myepack have some Boge's if they're of any interest to you pixiguru.

myepack.co.uk/boge-510-cartomiser-ss.html

[pixiguru]

Aug 18, 2018 17:55:45 GMT Perpetua said:

Aug 18, 2018 17:49:42 GMT pixiguru said:

I've tried subohming but don't really like it much prefer my ego batteries and 510 cartomisers...really old school and not fancy.

Myepack have some Boge's if they're of any interest to you pixiguru.

myepack.co.uk/boge-510-cartomiser-ss.html

Thanks I've just bought 2 cartons so have enough for about 18 months lol

[Postmodern Smoking]

Aug 18, 2018 17:55:45 GMT Perpetua said:

Aug 18, 2018 17:49:42 GMT pixiguru said:

I've tried subohming but don't really like it much prefer my ego batteries and 510 cartomisers...really old school and not fancy.

Myepack have some Boge's if they're of any interest to you pixiguru .

myepack.co.uk/boge-510-cartomiser-ss.html

So do I !!! 

[fagin]

Never left MTL, have been quite happy with my Microstick/Spheroid combos for years, but got bored recently and decided to get a little cheapie USB rechargeable thing to leave in the car for emergencies.

As it does, one thing led to another and ended up buying four random devices.

Including a squonker, as I've wanted to try one for a while. It came with a prebuilt atty, at, I think, .38 ohm. I decided to try it, and it was nasty. Hot as hell. 18mg juice probably didn't help. I'll rebuild it with more sensible coils. Fortunately my shopping included a proper MTL squonk atty, which was much better.

Sucking DTL just seems weird, as an ex smoker.

[rezello]

Jun 7, 2018 20:22:19 GMT Chrissie said:

I'm still MTL - for me, the draw, exhale & even a tobacco type flavour are what have kept me from going back to cigarettes.

Ditto I've done the subohm, the rewicking and coil building, the mech and the RDAs and to be fair I haven't got the time but it was a nice experiment while it lasted, back on mtl with my menthol liquid and trusty istick and I'm happy! I have never looked back to smoking tobacco and that pleases me no end, I have stuck with vape for well over a year now and even the smell of tobacco trying to draw me back has long subsided. Whichever way vaping goes I'm happy with what I've got and pleased to say even the shinyitis has gone too saving me lots of money ha ha ! I like my brand as cheap as it is but it works for me until the time that I can finally walk away from vaping too which is my ultimate goal. 

[rezello]

Jun 9, 2018 18:17:02 GMT decoy said:

i started on mtl and still use it for high nic juice to stop my nic cravings
i got the cloud bug from enjay and was soon running a dripper on a mech at 0.2 ohms
then the kangertech subtank came out and i said it was a bad day for vapeing
next thing we know its getting banned all over the place thanks to retards cuckin sick clouds bro in shopping centers ,pubs ect
thanks to these loons i now have to check if its ok to use my little mtl setup in pubs and if they say no thats fairnuff
yes ive got a 200 watt gbox squonk thing thats good for clouds but i dont use it much in public and defo not inside public places
snd just to finish the rant
SHOPS THAT SELL SUBOHM KITS TO PEPS THAT WANT TO STOP SMOKING
it dont give you the same hit as a ciggy and never will but it will use a lot of juice and the coils wont be cheap
i cant imagine why the shop would do that
long live mtl

Absolutely! I see no point in trying to give up smoking using a subohm set up you'll end up going straight back to smoking and not thinking much to vaping as a way off the cigs !