COVID - 19

[skipraider]

I wonder if the Bilderberg participants are rubbing their hands together in private.

[striker42]

Told my boss I would be working from home for the next 12 weeks. Not amused is an understatement

[thebishman]

Mar 27, 2020 8:33:16 GMT striker42 said:

Told my boss I would be working from home for the next 12 weeks. Not amused is an understatement

Just spat my coffee out! Loool

Hope your well bud...keep truckin!

[solac77]

Mar 27, 2020 3:23:08 GMT skipraider said:

I wonder if the Bilderberg participants are rubbing their hands together in private.

Yes most definitely

[Tom]

Just sharing my situation.

I work on live television VR graphics, specifically for SkySports. Obviously we have no live sport therefore no work.

However our manager has offered our departments services to work in sports news... on autocue. This would require us to complete some training and then obviously work in the news gallery.

We’ve been given key worker certificates.

Surely everyone’s job is key worker if you just change the role to be whatever you want.

Not sure how I feel about that. It isn’t my normal job. I’m normally the first one to help but this seems a bit daft to me.

Although I could do with getting out of the house xD

Anyone else’s thoughts on the matter most welcome.

[Postmodern Smoking]

[Ron]

[Ron]

How true is this I don;t know but it getting frightening now

Just got this from a nurse friend
This is a full and frank message. Please forward to the rest of the family, and your loved ones if you choose.

I had a meeting today with our Medical Director, who has been in touch with government. The following therefore has some authority.

By the weekend, London will be in full lockdown, with Army manned checkpoints. Only key workers, NHS staff, police, ambulance, fire, delivery drivers, and teachers looking after the children of the above, will be allowed to move around the city.

By next week, those restrictions will apply to the country.

Tonight Lewisham Hospital is overwhelmed, ambulances on divert, and only a few ventilators left. QEH is close behind. My Trust is in the frontline of this epidemic, mainly due to local demographics. The rest of the NHS is probably little more than a week behind. We have denied critical care to four patients today, who will die as a result.

I must now be clear. Anyone over 75 years old will be denied critical care; anyone over 65 with diseases, eg diabetes, COPD, will be denied critical care. We are ramping up palliative care services. If an elderly patient falls sick, and requires hospital care, there will be an immediate DNAR order on them. They will be palliated, and they will live or die. The government forecast of 250,000 deaths is, we believe, hopelessly optimistic.

The mortality rate is very high in the elderly. The ICU stay on a ventilator even in survivors is about three weeks. We will run out of ventilators in a week.

The Army is setting up field hospitals, no doubt with squaddies manually bagging patients.

You will not hear this from Boris Johnson for a few days. But please be assured it is coming. We are two weeks behind Italy.

For the family therefore, anyone over 65 is to self isolate, possibly for many weeks. Maintain contact through frequent video calls. If they need food or supplies, take them over and leave the bags on the doorstep, and wave at them from at least a six foot distance. They are not to touch the bags for 15 minutes. Do not visit for 14 days if you or anyone in your household is unwell with and fever, cough or 'flu like symptoms. If you are unwell, stay indoors, along with your whole family. Have a neighbour or a friend drop off supplies, with no social contact.

We need to blunt the curve, which is right now exponentially rising.

For myself, you cannot imagine the stress we are under. The awful decisions we will have to make. We will be taking otherwise healthy 60 year olds off a ventilator to die so we can save a 30 year old.

Please stay safe. I'll email when I can with news from the frontline.

[-V-]

Mar 27, 2020 23:59:50 GMT Ron said:

How true is this I don;t know but it getting frightening now

Just got this from a nurse friend
This is a full and frank message. Please forward to the rest of the family, and your loved ones if you choose.

I had a meeting today with our Medical Director, who has been in touch with government. The following therefore has some authority.

By the weekend, London will be in full lockdown, with Army manned checkpoints. Only key workers, NHS staff, police, ambulance, fire, delivery drivers, and teachers looking after the children of the above, will be allowed to move around the city.

By next week, those restrictions will apply to the country.

Tonight Lewisham Hospital is overwhelmed, ambulances on divert, and only a few ventilators left. QEH is close behind. My Trust is in the frontline of this epidemic, mainly due to local demographics. The rest of the NHS is probably little more than a week behind. We have denied critical care to four patients today, who will die as a result.

I must now be clear. Anyone over 75 years old will be denied critical care; anyone over 65 with diseases, eg diabetes, COPD, will be denied critical care. We are ramping up palliative care services. If an elderly patient falls sick, and requires hospital care, there will be an immediate DNAR order on them. They will be palliated, and they will live or die. The government forecast of 250,000 deaths is, we believe, hopelessly optimistic.

The mortality rate is very high in the elderly. The ICU stay on a ventilator even in survivors is about three weeks. We will run out of ventilators in a week.

The Army is setting up field hospitals, no doubt with squaddies manually bagging patients.

You will not hear this from Boris Johnson for a few days. But please be assured it is coming. We are two weeks behind Italy.

For the family therefore, anyone over 65 is to self isolate, possibly for many weeks. Maintain contact through frequent video calls. If they need food or supplies, take them over and leave the bags on the doorstep, and wave at them from at least a six foot distance. They are not to touch the bags for 15 minutes. Do not visit for 14 days if you or anyone in your household is unwell with and fever, cough or 'flu like symptoms. If you are unwell, stay indoors, along with your whole family. Have a neighbour or a friend drop off supplies, with no social contact.

We need to blunt the curve, which is right now exponentially rising.

For myself, you cannot imagine the stress we are under. The awful decisions we will have to make. We will be taking otherwise healthy 60 year olds off a ventilator to die so we can save a 30 year old.

Please stay safe. I'll email when I can with news from the frontline.

I read that on FB over a week ago..........or it might have been 2 weeks ago....

[-V-]

If anyone wants to keep an eye on how things are going regarding the paths and updates here is a link I check daily:
coronaworld.eu

[phatfil]

Mar 28, 2020 0:46:43 GMT -V- said:

Mar 27, 2020 23:59:50 GMT Ron said:

How true is this I don;t know but it getting frightening now

Just got this from a nurse friend
This is a full and frank message. Please forward to the rest of the family, and your loved ones if you choose.

I had a meeting today with our Medical Director, who has been in touch with government. The following therefore has some authority.

By the weekend, London will be in full lockdown, with Army manned checkpoints. Only key workers, NHS staff, police, ambulance, fire, delivery drivers, and teachers looking after the children of the above, will be allowed to move around the city.

By next week, those restrictions will apply to the country.

Tonight Lewisham Hospital is overwhelmed, ambulances on divert, and only a few ventilators left. QEH is close behind. My Trust is in the frontline of this epidemic, mainly due to local demographics. The rest of the NHS is probably little more than a week behind. We have denied critical care to four patients today, who will die as a result.

I must now be clear. Anyone over 75 years old will be denied critical care; anyone over 65 with diseases, eg diabetes, COPD, will be denied critical care. We are ramping up palliative care services. If an elderly patient falls sick, and requires hospital care, there will be an immediate DNAR order on them. They will be palliated, and they will live or die. The government forecast of 250,000 deaths is, we believe, hopelessly optimistic.

The mortality rate is very high in the elderly. The ICU stay on a ventilator even in survivors is about three weeks. We will run out of ventilators in a week.

The Army is setting up field hospitals, no doubt with squaddies manually bagging patients.

You will not hear this from Boris Johnson for a few days. But please be assured it is coming. We are two weeks behind Italy.

For the family therefore, anyone over 65 is to self isolate, possibly for many weeks. Maintain contact through frequent video calls. If they need food or supplies, take them over and leave the bags on the doorstep, and wave at them from at least a six foot distance. They are not to touch the bags for 15 minutes. Do not visit for 14 days if you or anyone in your household is unwell with and fever, cough or 'flu like symptoms. If you are unwell, stay indoors, along with your whole family. Have a neighbour or a friend drop off supplies, with no social contact.

We need to blunt the curve, which is right now exponentially rising.

For myself, you cannot imagine the stress we are under. The awful decisions we will have to make. We will be taking otherwise healthy 60 year olds off a ventilator to die so we can save a 30 year old.

Please stay safe. I'll email when I can with news from the frontline.

I read that one FB over a week ago.....

If your gonna call Bullshite I think a link to validate would be in order..

Once verified Im sure @rons pall will get read the riot act for irresponsibility too.



Stamping out idiot panic mongers is almost as important as stamping out the virus itself imho.
 
No one should believe  or spread any unqualified spoutings, 

Once the crisis is over all the nutcases who believe in flat earth, spaghetti monsters and whatever conspiracy is next can go to town  But for now they NEED to remain still and quiet as their 'fun n games ' isn't gonna be productive atm. 

sorry mini rant over..    

[skipraider]

I expect the Good people, e.g. Borris and the Royals will receive blood plasma, with the relevant antibodies, from recovered Coronavirus patients. It seems to effect a speedy recovery.


Some info about Borris:

www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/10999/boris_johnson/uxbridge_and_south_ruislip/votes

[skipraider]

Mar 27, 2020 23:24:42 GMT Ron said:

MAGIC

They used to use them as a tonic before winter in the olden days.

[-V-]

Mar 28, 2020 1:28:59 GMT phatfil said:

Mar 28, 2020 0:46:43 GMT -V- said:

I read that one FB over a week ago.....

If your gonna call Bullshite I think a link to validate would be in order..

Once verified Im sure @rons pall will get read the riot act for irresponsibility too.



Stamping out idiot panic mongers is almost as important as stamping out the virus itself imho.
 
No one should believe  or spread any unqualified spoutings, 

Once the crisis is over all the nutcases who believe in flat earth, spaghetti monsters and whatever conspiracy is next can go to town  But for now they NEED to remain still and quiet as their 'fun n games ' isn't gonna be productive atm. 

sorry mini rant over..    

If you 'noticed' i quoted the post above mine with the info in it with my reply saying I'd read that over a week ago on FB, which I actually think it might have been nearly 2 weeks ago hence I just edited my original post saying that.......

Without me 'shouting' bullshit to the poster I quoted I though my post kinda made it clear I didn't believe the content of the actual post......

As FB has been in meltdown with this whole thing and every man and. his dog has been posting the same old stuff I don't have any links to anything as like I said it was well over a week ago I read the exact same 'content' on FB by some random user I don't know in a closed FB group......





However all you need to do is a bit of google searching and here is one hit I got from it:

www.wanderersways.com/forum/topic/90620-coronavirus/page/255/?tab=comments#comment-1997782I

From the 19th March:

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/03/19/front-line-lewisham-gets-ventilator/

hope that clears 'my' side of it.....
I wasn't calling 'Ron' a bullshitter I just 'assumed' he'd just cut and pasted that from somewhere he found it

[skipraider]

I've been looking into anything to help me as I have severe COPD.
I've found some "alternative" or "Integrative" medicine info from supposedly reputable people.
Might be worth a look?
What do you think?


www.drfabio.com/healthblog/integrative-considerations-during-the-covid-19-pandemic-march-19-2020

Reviewed by:

Fabio Almeida MD ABNM, ABOM, ABoIMe
Director Center for Integrative Healing & Wellness
Fellow of the University of Arizona Integrative Medicine Program, Andrew Weil Center for Integrative Medicine

Lise Alschuler ND
Professor of Clinical Medicine
University of Arizona College of Medicine Assistant Director, Fellowship in Integrative Medicine, Andrew Weil Center for Integrative Medicine (Primary Author)

Ann Marie Chiasson MD
Associate Professor of Clinical Medicine
University of Arizona College of Medicine Director, Fellowship in Integrative Medicine Andrew Weil Center for Integrative Medicine

Robert Crocker MD
Assistant Professor of Medicine
University of Arizona College of Medicine Director, Strategic and Clinical Planning and Implementation, Andrew Weil Center for Integrative Medicine

Randy Horwitz MD PhD FACP
Professor of Medicine,
University of Arizona College of Medicine Medical Director, Andrew Weil Center for Integrative Medicine

Victoria Maizes MD
Professor of Clinical Medicine, Family Medicine and Public Health
University of Arizona Andrew Weil Endowed Chair in Integrative Medicine Executive Director, Andrew Weil Center for Integrative Medicine

Paul Stamets
Mycologist

Andrew Weil MD
Professor of Medicine and Public Health,
University of Arizona Endowed Chair in Integrative Rheumatology, University of Arizona Founder, Andrew Weil Center for Integrative Medicine

And:

www.stephenharrodbuhner.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/coronavirus.txt.pdf

S Buhner has many books published available on Amazon.