Throat Hit............

[lunerdog]

Jun 20, 2012 21:12:10 GMT Perpetua said:

Haven't got an OH . . . but I find myself having to have packages stealth delivered, to avoid questioning from my regular postie.

Just tell him your on drugs, it'll be fine

[lunerdog]

Jun 20, 2012 21:02:13 GMT chrisjw said:

Been trying that suggestion des & you're right, but it doesn't work every time................

Chris, VV does work, if you want to try a VV device, I've got a mk1 Lavatube here, don't think I'll ever use it again so you can have it, I'll chuck in a battery but haven't got spare charger.

Pm me your addy if you want it.

[chrisjw]

Jun 20, 2012 21:24:39 GMT @lunerdog said:

Jun 20, 2012 21:02:13 GMT chrisjw said:

Been trying that suggestion des & you're right, but it doesn't work every time................

Chris, VV does work, if you want to try a VV device, I've got a mk1 Lavatube here, don't think I'll ever use it again so you can have it, I'll chuck in a battery but haven't got spare charger.

Pm me your addy if you want it.

That's really nice of you luner....I'll pm you

[Karma]

Jun 20, 2012 21:12:10 GMT Perpetua said:

Haven't got an OH . . . but I find myself having to have packages stealth delivered, to avoid questioning from my regular postie.

Perps, i'm getting strange looks from my postie and starting to feel a bit embarassed. it's stupid though, we're keeping them in a job

[Perpetua]

Just not appreciated are we Karma.

[OneDay]

My daughter is always having books and dvd's delivered. We both run to the door when the postie knocks. He's atarted saying "and todays lucky winner is........" before telling us who the parcel is for

[flimflam]

Jun 20, 2012 19:42:18 GMT chrisjw said:

Oh noooooooooooooooooooo....................does this mean more spending?????..............................

Possibly, but you’ve only been vaping for what, three weeks? So rather than go crazy trying out VV and loads of different stuff I’d suggest a more measured approach

Basically, if you’re like me, you wanna minimize the variables so can narrow down what does it for you. On that front there are basically three of them: The voltage your device kicks out, the resistance of your carto, and the nic strength & flavouring of your juice.

So, take it in stages:

1. Stick with your Riva just now. That’s one variable out the window – it’s now a constant
2. If you’re using a standard resistance carto, try a low resistance one instead. If that doesn’t do the biz for you, then also move to 3 below.
3. If you’re using 18mg juice, up it to 24mg. Also try to go relatively heavy on the PG, eg 70/30 or 80/20 PG/VG. These mixes are very common though, eg most of VE’s juices are this kind of ratio.

A note on cartos (common types, and just my experiences of them): Clearomizers – good flavour/poor TH, Visions – good flavour/OK TH, Boges/Kangers – good flavour/best TH.

A note on juices (again my experiences, others may differ) – Tobaccos and menthols seem generally to be better in the TH department, fruit and sweet flavours less so. Though nic level is important, it’s not the be all and end all – eg I have a Hangsen RY4 and an HS Impulse here, both at 24mg, but the Impulse blows the RY4 out the water in the TH dept (as does the Dekang Mint)

My several cents for what they’re worth,
John

[lunerdog]

Jun 20, 2012 22:23:52 GMT flimflam said:

Jun 20, 2012 19:42:18 GMT chrisjw said:

Oh noooooooooooooooooooo....................does this mean more spending?????..............................

Possibly, but you’ve only been vaping for what, three weeks? So rather than go crazy trying out VV and loads of different stuff I’d suggest a more measured approach

Basically, if you’re like me, you wanna minimize the variables so can narrow down what does it for you. On that front there are basically three of them: The voltage your device kicks out, the resistance of your carto, and the nic strength & flavouring of your juice.

So, take it in stages:

1. Stick with your Riva just now. That’s one variable out the window – it’s now a constant
2. If you’re using a standard resistance carto, try a low resistance one instead. If that doesn’t do the biz for you, then also move to 3 below.
3. If you’re using 18mg juice, up it to 24mg. Also try to go relatively heavy on the PG, eg 70/30 or 80/20 PG/VG. These mixes are very common though, eg most of VE’s juices are this kind of ratio.

A note on cartos (common types, and just my experiences of them): Clearomizers – good flavour/poor TH, Visions – good flavour/OK TH, Boges/Kangers – good flavour/best TH.

A note on juices (again my experiences, others may differ) – Tobaccos and menthols seem generally to be better in the TH department, fruit and sweet flavours less so. Though nic level is important, it’s not the be all and end all – eg I have a Hangsen RY4 and an HS Impulse here, both at 24mg, but the Impulse blows the RY4 out the water in the TH dept (as does the Dekang Mint)

My several cents for what they’re worth,
John

Its a double edged sword though, when I first started vaping what I really wanted was that good hard clout in the throat that you would get from a good strong big fat beefy handrolled tobacco stuffed masterpiece, and I wasn't getting it.

Was ready to shot the vaping gear in the bin and go and buy a packet of baccy and then a Provari came up for sale just down the road from me, piggy bank beaten into submission and dosh duly aquired and an hour later it was in my paws.

Never looked back and haven't bothered about analogues since, of course the "collection" has grown, but the hobby side of things has kept my interest peaked.

Now all I need is a new pair of eyes so I can actually see these damn coils I keep trying to spin

[2risky]

www.amazon.co.uk/Rolson-Tools-60335-Helping-Magnifying/dp/B001BMSBD4/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1340239976&sr=8-2

Cheapo magnifying glass on a stand, highly recommended for coil twirlers with imperfect eyesight. There are better ones, but this sort of thing is good for the occasional rewick.

As for TH, I've never been too bothered about it, it's more nic + flavour for me. I suspect (with no hard evidence) that low nic and/or poor equipment delivering low nic content is a big reason for some going back to the nasties.

[lunerdog]

Cheers for that Risky

Bought a thingy type thing from Argos earlier, tis an "illuminated magnifier" thats sposed to clamp to a desk and has an "any position arm" so you can move it out of the way blah blah, it came out of the box and fell to pieces, it had obviously been sold and returned at least once as the box and inner bag were double taped over and the ties for the power lead were laid in the bottom of the box.

It was too late to take it back by then so I rebuilt the damn thing, put a bulb in it and turned it on, and it was rather underwhelming The light was about half a candle power and the magnifying glass was that poor it was like looking through the bottom of a bottle > So I reduced it back to its dismantled state and boxed it back up, its going back in the morning.

Chuffin Argos, arsehats.

[Sandra (aka Chillax)]

Jun 20, 2012 20:57:38 GMT @lunerdog said:

Jun 20, 2012 20:55:42 GMT OneDay said:

As macca says lunerdog, the ninjas are self-appointed, based not on their ability to spend, but to get their goods past the eyes of their other halves. Look out for ninjas in their sig banners

Seems like a lot of trouble to go to, I just got rid of my other half

Love it..

[Perpetua]

A craft supplier of some sort might be a better option Luner for a decent magnifier . . . it's something on my ' to get ' list as well for coil building, at the moment I'm making do with a stronger than normal pair of reading specs.

And, in an endeavour to keep on topic . . . throat hit has never been a vaping priority for me either, good flavour and lots of vapour hits the spot for me.

[Sandra (aka Chillax)]

Just got back from shopping and lidl have a magnifying glass on a stand.

[Perpetua]

Thanks Sandra.

I'll have a reccy tomorrow when I've finished work.

[lunerdog]

Have taken the pile of shi junk back to Argos and got a refund, nipped into Maplins and got a nifty little doofa for half the price:

www.maplin.co.uk/dual-powered-illuminated-clip-on-magnifier-534776

Has a dual lense for gimpy sighted pillocks like me