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Someone who speaks my language !! Hurrah !!

Tis the end of a very relaxing Bank Holiday so time for bed ...... I'm sure I'll have a very sweet dream knowing I've finally met a kindred spirit !! (as long as my wife doesn't find out!)

Calm down gorgeous !! I've never touched the karma button - and never will ...... like you said, it is a bit daft !!

Forums like this one are far better as they will be unbiased and independent - Vendor based forums will always have a conflict of interest and be liable to censorship and overt promotion etc ......

Vaping needs a purely UK version of ECF that has separate sections for all the Vendors - that way we get all the benefit of the Sellers involvement yet still maintain an open and honest appraisal of their goods and customer service ......

Maybe Chrissie and the Mods could look at upgrading this place ?!

Seriously, do people actually care how many imaginary karma points they have in the virtual world of an internet forum ?? Why ?? ???

Which makes it even more sad and pathetic that somebody decided to use these silly karma points to enact some sort of childish "revenge" !!

Ozzies are usually the coolest peeps in the world !! Is Hopey really an American by any chance ??


I know you want to keep this place very "lovey dovey" babe, but seeing Vendors have an argument or two will not bring about the end of the world !!

It's actually a very good thing as it makes Sellers far more "transparent" ......

This helps everyone (especially newbies) see what they are really like and so can better judge who to to do business with, and who to avoid !!

Hopey has made some excellent and important points - but it's Lisa that is looking far more professional and winning this little scrap !!

That's right Hopelesss - you got beaten by a girl lol !!

Let me enlighten you babe .......

1) This is not about "the powers that be" knowing what is best for us - it is purely about Corporate Profits and Tax Revenue ....... this has both a negative AND a positive aspect, which should be explored without the usual simplistic notion of "The Government Is Always Evil" - would you like to be the one that decides which Hospitals and Schools should be closed down because the Treasury lost Billions in Tobacco Duties ??

2) Why do you consider this petition demonstrates "not sitting back and taking action" ?? It achieved nothing productive and may well have had a very destructive effect ......

3) This whole idea that Government listens to the people is nothing more than fluffy marketing for "Sheeple" to swallow - decisions are made according to facts and figures, not Public Opinion ....... if you really thought this petition would have any influence then you have fallen for the oldest trick in the Political book ...... this served the Governments agenda more than it did Vaping, as it now gives people the illusion (aka photo opportunity!) that the Political System is accessible to the Public and that there really was Due Diligence being undertaken ....... when in fact there was no such thing at all ......

4) While everybody was being distracted by pointless and ineffectual nonsense like this - there were a great many things which were not being done which could have had a major impact ....... like raising funds for a legal battle and petitioning the big Vendors to hire frikkin lawyers !!

5) You are unbelievably naive to think this petition caused the delay - it was probably already part of the MHRA's plan from the outset and most certainly was due to the upcoming FDA ruling in America at about the same time - Government Agencies love to errrr "liaise" with each other .......

6) You are veering on complete foolishness to think the MHRA doesn't know more about E-cigs than anybody else !! They have no "misconceptions" about them at all and know full well that they cause no harm - the MHRA is merely doing the bidding of the "establishment" and are the first (of many!) obstacles Vaping will need to surmount ......

7) Trust me, nobody heard your opinions on this babe - that petition was immediately "filed" in the bin ....... all while Vapers were patting each other on the back for putting up such a good fight .......

Ya know babe, you gals have a great platform here to offer guidance and direction - not just on what new E-cig to buy but on the far more important issue of how to protect Vaping in the UK .......

I know you may not want this responsibility, but running this place gives you have a huge influence ....... perhaps you should take advantage of this position by trying to understand the real issues at hand by scratching underneath the surface ....... instead of just following the "status quo" and repeating the prescribed and incorrect mantra of the more vocal majority .......

Just my 2p Foxy Lady

Could I ask you fine ladies what you do for a living ?? I'm curious as you both don't seem to understand the Political or Corporate mindset at all ...... as they say, "know your enemy" babes !!

Firstly, have any of these petitions EVER changed the major plans of Government ??

Secondly, were the number of signatures on the petition large enough for them to even bother giving it any serious attention ??

Thirdly, would it be better to let the Tobacco/Pharma industry have the vague/inflated perception that Vaping is supposedly HUGE in the UK ...... or would it better to let them have concrete knowledge that our numbers are so small as to be insignificant ??

Fourthly, public actions like this are an indicator of desperation and show that the Vaping community is pretty much helpless and without any intrinsic "muscle" (aka finance and legal support) ...... does this help or harm the cause ??

Fifthly, would this petition provoke the Anti-Vaping lobby to accelerate their timetable and further increase their efforts against Vaping ??

Answers on a postcard please .......