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Post by robby on Feb 2, 2016 9:13:39 GMT
The one part of a mod/ecig that could have used a bit of TPD regulation is the feckin battery
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Post by robby on Jan 31, 2016 22:58:59 GMT
I think my main point is not to put a lot of faith in what temperature the mod says you are working at. Most of the time it is inaccurate, different builds with the same metal tend to prove that. I think most people when they see a temperature reading think of it as a true reference like with a thermometer in an oven etc. It reality, it really isn`t in this application. I can totally understand anyone`s confusion. So easy to get mentally waylaid when you are trying to get this stuff into the old grey matter I can see why the Asolo was made, it gets rid of most of the uncertainty when using TC.
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Post by robby on Jan 31, 2016 20:21:36 GMT
You are not wrong robby given that the target is a single temp adjusting these so it cuts power at the point you want should work. But it will make life trickier if you want to vape with different wires and or different temps or on different devices. IMO It also makes it hard to help people online and I feel devices or wires that are particularly problematic should be avoided where possible. If you are going to stick to one or two wire & temp combinations on a single type of mod where adjusting to taste and remembering the settings is manageable it not big a problem. I tend to be running a coil for at least a week, I might switch devices between about three favourites although lately I`ve been using the Asolo quite a lot which is a simple setup with nothing to remember. Stick any coil on it, find your sweet spot on power mode and switch to TC. I dont bother with the nickel mode etc. Any wire works in the learning mode. I`ve seen reports that you have to keep "teaching" the mod but I honestly haven`t found that and mine was definitely one of the early ones.
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Post by robby on Jan 31, 2016 14:35:32 GMT
the displayed temperature is a representative calculation of the dynamaic resistance based on the TCR. 1) who is to say the base resistance reading is correct? ( evic mini ) 2) who is to say that the material used SS/Ti/Ni200 is of the correct composition? Both good points which is why I prefer the partial vape it and see response, especially for your second point.
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Post by robby on Jan 31, 2016 12:55:39 GMT
No problem, let us know how you get on! I will for sure
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Post by robby on Jan 31, 2016 12:53:36 GMT
Must get some of that I will bung 1m in the post for you to play with if you PM me your address details. Very kind of you Mike, but I have just ordered some Thanks for the offer
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Post by robby on Jan 31, 2016 12:42:56 GMT
Having played with SS316L this week and lurked in this thread I echo all your comments. It produces a love clean vape in wattage mode. Sadly it seems to be a cat and mouse in TC mode. NiFe30 is my next adventure! Must get some of that
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Post by robby on Jan 31, 2016 12:42:04 GMT
No probs jtc on the link I posted above they do state that TC doesn`t work with kanthal, but it does slightly. I think the page was written before the Asolo was on the market.
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Post by robby on Jan 31, 2016 12:34:09 GMT
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Post by robby on Jan 31, 2016 12:27:34 GMT
I am not sure that the TCR is totally accurate on a lot of SS wires, it`s the most sensitive option for TC wire, an easier measurement on Nickel for sure. If there are slight differences in manufacture it`s going to affect the TCR even though we have one TCR value for a given SS wire, just my opinion though. Again the Asolo takes it in it`s stride as every coil you put on it is determined individually.
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Post by robby on Jan 31, 2016 11:17:25 GMT
I like SS wire, not for any technical reason, it just seems to make more sense to me with regard to what`s coming off the coil
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Post by robby on Jan 31, 2016 11:16:04 GMT
Using the method I used, I could get SS to TC before the firmware updates on the XCUBE2 in nickel mode. The displayed temperature was way down in the 250F kind of range, but it was actually the same temperature vape as a nickel coil at 440F. That was without the burn test.
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Post by robby on Jan 31, 2016 11:03:08 GMT
An interesting point about the Asolo anywire mod is that the mod works out the TCR itself. You dont actually need the Nickel and other "modes". You can put any coil on it, take a 6 seconds plus vape in straight power mode (adjusting the power to taste for each 6 second vape) and the mod works out the resistance change and computes it`s own TCR etc. You dont need to set a temperature.
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Post by robby on Jan 31, 2016 10:56:41 GMT
Not this time no but I have tried it in the past I took it up to 500f this morning at 45w and it still hits tc. I seriously give up. I always thought tc was the way and always backed that up but having my griffin in kanthal right now I'm very happy Wack the temp up some more and forget about the displayed temp setting if you are confident your TCR is somewhere near accurate. I think they made a mistake using a Fahrenheit or Centigrade setting as a lot of people will think it is accurate like a thermometer, .......... it isn`t.
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Post by robby on Jan 31, 2016 10:51:11 GMT
You may be right robby , but how will you ever know if any of the readings shown are accurate? The resulting vape is the only way to judge if the temperature is being controlled and to what degree, and that is very subjective. Exactly, that`s the method I use, the displayed temperature setting really cant be totally trusted without 100% accuracy for the TCR.
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