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Post by CAM-VIP on May 23, 2012 22:33:54 GMT
I liked the black cherry and the apricot. The lime and the lemon were authentic as well. I did not like the tobaccos I tried though.
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Post by CAM-VIP on May 23, 2012 21:48:29 GMT
A couple of terms that were used in the early days of ecigs were fogging and steaming - they never took off but fogging seems like a reasonable description
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Post by CAM-VIP on May 23, 2012 21:42:34 GMT
I like tooter and tooting
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Post by CAM-VIP on May 23, 2012 9:59:28 GMT
I think you've hit the nail on the head there Queenie! All new words and phrases must sound daft at first! When I first started using an ecig, I wanted to stop smoking and I thought that vaper and vaping was the better of the two in the thread title as it was nowt to do with smoke. At that time, I had no concept that you'd start on an ecig and continue forever. The kits were sold with decreasing nic-strength cartridges and I thought after 6-8 weeks, I'd be free of inhaling nicotine - I was brainwashed by the previous attempts to quit via NRT that it was "all or nowt!" I then discovered (through the forums) that I didn't have to quit and I could enjoy this activity for ever. That was nearly 3 years ago, but I still never likes the term vaper as it seemed a bit druggyfied. I also didn't like anything that didn't look like a cigarette or a pipe. In fact, the Jantystick was raved about in those days and I thought it looked like a drug taking device, so I shyed away. Things have moved on in 3 years and people's (smokers) awareness has increased, but only slightly. Many smokers who I come across still have a problem with non-look-a-likes, especially if they haven't got the desire to give up smoking and do the research online. I went to see Andrew last night at his local and one of the things he said is that the smokers who come to his market stall tend to be drawn in by the look-a-likes. BUT after talking them through the pros and cons of those compared to SDKs and eGo style devices, the eGo style devices tend to sell. He also said that on a given day, the people who purchase from him tend to go for whatever he is using It's all interesting stuff
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Post by CAM-VIP on May 23, 2012 9:07:37 GMT
The terms vaper and e-smoker are ways to describe users of PVs or ecigs. Personally I think they both sound daft and as such I have never been able to choose which one I'd class myself as, so I tend to stick with 'I'm a smoker'. However as far as CAM-VIP is concerned, the term vaping is in the title to disassociate it from smoking, as smoking in pubs is illegal - plus the VIP bit we've always liked. But the terms 'vaping' and 'vaper' tend to put off our 'target audience', the smoker. So we now use the terms e-smoking and e-smoker to try and engage the smoker with ecigs in a pub. How would you describe yourself and why? Russell
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Post by CAM-VIP on May 23, 2012 7:13:26 GMT
A week today, CAM-VIP along with Andrew will be hosting a 'Stay Inside VIP Night' at a pub in Greasbrough, South Yorkshire. Smokers will be encouraged to stay inside the pub for the night through trying out ecigs. Andrew (who sells ecigs at Penistone and Denaby markets) will have a range of products available on the night for smokers to try and hopefully a good night IN the pub will be had by all Yellow Lion Church Street Greasbrough Rotherham S61 4DX If you live locally, come along and bring your smoking mates with you. The fun starts at 7pm. Cheers! Russell
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Post by CAM-VIP on May 23, 2012 6:49:59 GMT
A couple of posters If you live locally, why not print a few off and 'spread the word' Cheers! Russell
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Post by CAM-VIP on May 20, 2012 22:26:10 GMT
I can really understand your frustration Gaz, but maybe you took it just a little bit too far the other night? It is difficult getting the use of ecigs properly accepted in a lot of pubs - why? I've no idea! The old argument of 'looks like a fag so smokers will light up' does not really hold any water these days. Smokers know that they cannot smoke in a pub - we are 5 years down the line since the smoking ban. It is the right of any landlord to refuse to serve anyone that they deem 'unsavoury' in any way shape or form. The important thing for us to remember is that we are pioneers and irresponsible vaping will have a negative effect on our ability to 'smoke' in pubs in the near future. If we all just use a bit of common sense (which isn't that common these days!), we can enjoy using ecigs in proper pubs with no objections Russell
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Post by CAM-VIP on May 16, 2012 11:21:11 GMT
It's sad what Barnsley Council have decided to do with all the old schools - ie knock 'em down!. My old primary school was a lovely old building but it's gone
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Post by CAM-VIP on May 16, 2012 11:01:38 GMT
I've signed it I taught at Science at Penistone Grammar for a year 2002-2003 (I think!) and loved it there
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Post by CAM-VIP on May 16, 2012 8:12:50 GMT
I only use SR cartos as Trog (the inventor) advises. I think the current draw of LR will shorten the run time of the battery and ultimately it's life expectancy.
Russell
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Post by CAM-VIP on May 15, 2012 20:42:20 GMT
It would be great if we could get a good turn out. It should be a fantastic evening
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Post by CAM-VIP on May 14, 2012 20:13:52 GMT
I'm one of the 80 people going. I know there are quite a few on here going, but who is?
I'm really looking forward to it although I'm dreading the train journey home to Wombwell. When I went to the first York mini-meet in 2010, I woke up in Burton-on-Trent!! Luckily, I still managed to get home - just :-[
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Post by CAM-VIP on May 14, 2012 19:55:14 GMT
Thank you Tetsab for adding your stall to this thread Off line vendors, especially those who are experienced vapers selling good products should be promoted as much as possible in my opinion. People getting the word out in the real world should be applauded **clappy smiley** Russell
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Post by CAM-VIP on May 14, 2012 9:11:01 GMT
This is our latest 'news' on the CAM-VIP site - I hope you find something of interest and maybe even some things to discuss Russell Over the last two years, the Campaign for Vaping in Pubs has been spreading the word about the legal alternative to smoking in pubs. The aim has been to increase awareness to smokers that there is an alternative to standing outside your local with a pint and missing all the fun going off inside.
Traditional pubs and what they have to offer, are becoming a real rarity. A large section of society in 2012, does not understand the concept of a traditional community pub and what it can offer its locality. Many people under the age of 40, have not been exposed to a real pub. Instead, they associate pubs with either extortionately priced alcohol, somewhere to eat out or take the kids, as part of a binging pub crawl or a trendy 'pulling' place. Many of the younger generation have never spent the whole of a single night in one pub. This lost generation is possibly the main reason why traditional pubs are failing however, the 'smoking ban', along with the price differential between on and off sales, has contributed to the decline.
Despite the Government's attempts to stop people from smoking or discourage people from taking up the 'nasty' habit, many people (like myself) still enjoy smoking, especially with a pint or two. The same holds true for the younger generation of smokers who we wish to attract into our traditional pubs. One possible way of doing this is to encourage traditional pubs to become the local 21st century tobacconist or 'e-bacconist' - a place for smokers to buy their favourite brand of electronic cigarette (ecig) - as tobacco cigarettes seem to have no place in our future;
",,, both at home and internationally, we will continue to act against the vested and commercial interests of the tobacco industry.
As Secretary of State for Health, I haven’t met with those companies. Not now or when I was in Opposition as the Conservative’s health spokesman. Their interests are not my interests. My objective is to achieve smoke-free communities; theirs is to make a profit from selling intrinsically harmful products. We don’t have common ground. This is not like alcohol, where there is a level of responsible drinking and potential shared campaigns between Government and retailers. That’s why there is no place in the Responsibility Deal for tobacco companies. There is no responsible level of tobacco consumption."
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"We’ll also be looking at the best ways to reduce the damage that tobacco does to smokers’ bodies, even if they can’t or won’t break their addiction to nicotine.
As you know, although nicotine is an addictive substance in cigarettes, the damage mostly comes from the inhalation of the smoke itself.
Anything we can do to reduce that damage is well worth doing, even if some smokers can’t kick the nicotine."
(Speech: 6 March 2012, Andrew Lansley, Smoking and Health)
Smoking is becoming a very expensive and 'socially uncomfortable' pastime due to Government policies . The good old days when we could browse the different brands on offer at our local tobacconist or choose from a selection of 'goodies' on display at our local supermarket have gone for good. We now feel like druggies at a chemist queuing up for a methadone fix when we visit out local Tesco or Morrisons. Another alternative is to go abroad for our supplies or descend into the 'Black Market' by purchasing those imported on our behalf. As the policies on tobacco become harsher and harsher, smokers will have to look for an alternative to smoking tobacco.
Electronic cigarettes will become more and more popular as the Government's plans to erradicate 'tobacco consumption' and 'reduce the damage that tobacco does to smokers' bodies' take effect. Already tobacco companies are looking to market their own brands of ecigs to replace traditional cigarettes and there will also be 'medicinal' ecigs sold in chemists throughout the country in an attempt to wean people off nicotine (the latter is not something we are interested in).
Ecigs have been on the market for about 5 years in this country. Initially the majority of the brands available were a poor replacement for cigarettes and they were very expensive. In the last year or so, the technology has moved on and the costs have tumbled. Ecigs are now a true alternative to smoking where you cannot smoke, providing you buy the correct brand - a task which is much easier said than done!
CAM-VIP has been studying the ecig market for the last two years and one thing is clear. The brands which spend the most money on advertising in the press and other media, tend to be massively overpriced for what they are. Many of those brands give smokers unrealistic expectations of what the ecig can do and make false claims about how long they will last and what is actually in the vapour we inhale and exhale.
We have teamed up with six of the top UK online vendors of ecigs (VIP Partners) to ensure that traditional pubs wishing to be e-bacconists, will have access to the best brands at the best prices, along with all the real information and support that the smoker needs to help him/her choose the brand that is right for them. We will be trialling this initiative in my local from June and if it is successful, we hope to roll it out to other traditional pubs across the country.
Russell VR Ord
2012 - a new age of smoking,,, a new dawn for pubs? Let's hope so.
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