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Oh my gosh - I vape 32-36mg all day and all night and drink black coffee strong enough to stand a spoon up in and NEVER get high! I must be doing it wrong

You're correct Ian, vaping is a far better option and the article gives a one sided view. However, if we read an article tomorrow stating that e-cigs and juice, in their current state, were 100% safe and everyone should get one, we would be thrilled...... and also aware that the story probably ain't all the truth, as there are no conclusive studies they are 100% safe for long term use, and that a lot of vendors don't list their ingredients, so in all honesty, we are ill advised as to what we are actually inhaling.

This article is, as Perpy put it, stage managed. All the old farts at the MHRA are probably rubbing their hands with glee, thinking this is one more step toward getting one over on us. In some ways it could be a good thing - it reminds us we can't get complacent and must get organised for the next stage.

Kate started the petition around this time last year and we took it to Downing street in June I believe. I wonder what the growth of vapers has been in that period? And an article like this will fire people up for the next battle. So maybe it's not all bad.

I agree with you Ian, however, as vapers it will do us no favours to suggest that - a lot of it is about being allowed to make our own choices and not be dictated to or nannied, so we are in the same camp as the smokers.

I know some of you are aware of the proposed Community Association. Those mad brave fools folk who run VapourTrails TV have volunteered to set this up between them, so it is down to use mere mortals to encourage membership and support of them.

I think an even more united front can only be for the good.

Perpy, I've just watched the second half of vapour trails TV and Cat saw the news article. The doctor apparently called for e cigs to be rigorously tested in the next 2 years (or words to that effect)

I'm not generally big on conspiracy theories, but this gentleman died in August last year, just before the MRHA consultation. Could it be at all possible that GPs, surgeons and the like were encouraged to report if any of their vaping patients subsequently died?

And testing within the next two years...... Now, why does two years ring a bell?

Just to add to that - how often do doctors get interviewed on tea time news when one of their patients dies from a smoking related disease??

Wishing you well and a speedy recovery xx