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I've written to all my MEPs and my MP, still waiting for replies from most, but had two so far, plus a UKIP tweet saying that they were against all EU regs.
Lib-Dem was ignorant.
But this was received from my Conservative MEP today, and he asks for the vaping forums to help by becoming activists.
His reply could have almost been written by ECCA!

Thank you contacting me with your concerns with the EU Tobacco Directive. I sympathise with your point that vaporises have helped you to substantially cut down on smoking, indeed, a number of my constituents have attested to their effectiveness

Please find below the response of the Martin Callanan, Conservative Spokesman for matters relating to the Environment, Public Health and Food Safety:

"You are not alone in contacting me on this issue - many constituents feel similarly strongly. I have examined the arguments and I see the potential e-cigarettes offer as harm-reduction devices to improve human health. I am particularly convinced by the fact that e-cigarettes offer concentrated nicotine to addicts without the 4000 toxins and carcinogens found in tobacco smoke, that use of e-cigarettes removes the risk posed to non-smokers (and especially to children of smokers) by second hand smoke, that e-cigarettes appeal to adult smokers seeking to quit but not generally to children or those not yet addicted to nicotine, that traditional nicotine replacement therapies proposed by the NHS and the pharmaceutical industry have had very limited success in helping smokers quit permanently, and that thousands of British e-cigarette users (and millions across the EU and the world) are likely return to smoking if the directive is amended as foreseen and nicotine concentrations are limited to 4mg/ml. I have no doubt that this will lead to a large percentage of such users dying of smoking-related diseases they might otherwise have avoided, with all the personal and societal consequences this would mean. Such arguments have led me to conclude that the proposed changes to limit permitted concentrations of nicotine solution sold in the EU are counter-productive and will do much more harm than good.

Changes to EU tobacco legislation have been expected for some time but were delayed by the recent resignation of the previous European Commissioner for Health and Consumer Affairs, John Dalli. His replacement, Tonio Borg, has expressed a desire to change the law before his mandate expires in June 2014. To prevent the proposed changes concerning e-cigarettes and all the negative consequences that would arise, we must work hard in the year ahead to build solid majorities in both the Parliament and the Council.

As a member of the Parliament's Committee on the Environment, Public Health and Food Safety I will do everything in my power to make the arguments and convince other MEPs of the foolishness of diluting nicotine solution to the point of uselessness.

I would also encourage you to raise awareness among others in the vapourizing community. The internet offers considerable opportunities to draw the attention of a wide audience to the issue and to contact your elected representatives quickly and easily. If you have not already done so I would encourage you to write to your MP and request him to raise the matter in Westminster, and persuade other e-cigarette users to do the same. If we bring to the attention of the public, the political world and the media the strong arguments in favour of e-cigarettes as a harm reduction device and the number of lives which can be saved through their use, we have a very strong chance of winning the argument."

I hope you find this response useful, if you have any queries or concerns on any other matter please do not hesitate to get in touch, I shall be happy to help.

I've applied but the only one this month I could get to was yesterday and it wasn't mentioned.
I have given 6 towns I can do, and there are plenty more I can't.
My father went to one years ago and complained that he wasn't allowed to ask anything because his questions were 'not relevant' or 'unsuitable'. From his experience probably nobody would be allowed to bring the subject up... it could put politicians on the spot.

andylec, I don't take your comment personally. I agree that taste is personal so a review is never something writ in stone and I agree that the samples from Royal were nice for the first few customers, only no company can give away endless samples of premium juices. Royal now charge £9.99 for samples, one group in their range.
I usually pay this kind of money, sometimes more, because I don't like artificial flavours and I prefer the best UK juices. But each to their own.
I'll spend a fiver on something if I like the sound of it and if I don't like it I find somebody who does.

Signed this months ago and posted to UKV (or saw it there).
I've written to all seven MEPs plus MP, so far received a reply from one saying it will take time to reply as he takes all correspondence seriously.

I found an interesting discrepency between blood plasma levels in the directive and nicotine content in eliquid, although the 2010 made a typo by using mg for ecigs (2010 Ruyan) until Table 3, which is correct.

The error is here:-
Results Over 60 min, participants using 16 mg ENDD
recorded 0.82 units less desire to smoke than the
placebo ENDD (p¼0.006). No difference in desire to
smoke was found between 16 mg ENDD and inhalator.
ENDDs were more pleasant to use than inhalator
(p¼0.016) and produced less irritation of mouth and
throat (p<0.001). On average, the ENDD increased
serum nicotine to a peak of 1.3 mg/ml in 19.6 min, the
inhalator to 2.1 ng/ml in 32 min and cigarettes to
13.4 ng/ml in 14.3 min. The plasma level for ecigs (ENDDs) should be in ng, not mg.
Other studies have made similar errors where decimal points are moved in places.

A 16 mg/ml ecig gives 1.3 ng/ml blood plasma levels, way nelow that in the directive. The amount of nicotine/ml allowed would give zero blood plasma concentration.
A cigarette gives 13.4 ng/ml, nicotine inhalator containing 10 mg nicotine 2.1 ng/ml and eliquid at 16mg/ml gives a plasma concentration of 1.3 ng/ml.

This is in www.seeht.org/Bullen%20et%20al%20-%20Jul_2010.pdf

Table 3 gives the quantities. This is a 2010 paper that used a small sample of smokers to compare nicotine inhalators with ecigs.



Table 3 Pharmacokinetic properties of usual cigarette, 16 mg ENDD
and Nicorette inhalator
Mean tmax (min) Mean Cmax
Product (95% CI) (ng/mL) (95% CI)*
Usual cigarette (n¼9) 14.3 (8.8 to 19.9) 13.4 (6.5 to 20.3)
16 mg ENDD (n¼8) 19.6 (4.9 to 34.2) 1.3 (0.0 to 2.6)
Nicorette inhalator (n¼10) 32.0 (18.7 to 45.3) 2.1 (1.0 to 3.1)
ENDD, electronic nicotine delivery device.
*Corrected for baseline nicotine levels.

I'm new on this forum so I haven't done any reviews here, but I hope that folks have some idea of me from my posts to put up with that. I've been posting on UKV for a while now and I did reviews of these juices there maybe a month or so ago, but want to share my opinions here. I love these liquids and I want to share with everybody.
This is a fairly new vendor and every liquid I've had I've loved. It's been hard, but I've been keeping what is left of these to steep and now I'm doing a new review here. The unusual thing about all these eliquids is that they are all organic, premium UK juices and for me they taste much better than those made with artificial flavours. I deliberatly kept some back to age after doing the UKV review and enjoying more than I should have.
Of course these are my opinions and my taste buds, but I hope that they give some idea of what they are like.
I think that they are still giving raffle tickets with orders for the next few days, but I'm not sure.
I won't say that I love this one or that because I love them all!
These were all sampled today, using a bridgeless standard 510 atty, with both an Ego and a Lavatube.
Linky for anybody who wants it, www.acevapers.com as it seems unfair to make anybody hunt to see what the vendor site says.

Cake Mix
Do you ever get your wrist slapped for dipping your finger into a bowl of plain cake mix? Well, that's exactly what it tastes like to me and I'm glad I won't get a slap.
This is a pure, simple eliquid. It has a mild taste, very nice. I think it could be an all-day vape without getting the dreaded 'vapers tongue'.
It has a very pure, fresh taste of a sponge cake mix. I think this one is very nice especially when you want to give your taste buds a rest from the strong flavours.
This is a 12 mg strength, 70/30 PG/VG, with the taste of fresh sponge cake mix at ego voltages. With a Lavatube at 4.5 volts it has an undertaste of sponge cake that has just started baking.

Bananas Foster
18 mg 70/30 PG/VG
First I vaped at ego voltage and this tastes of ripe bananas with a caramel undertone.On my Lavatube at 4 volts it has a lovely mixture of caramel and ripe banana, the caramel taste is stronger but the banana shines through, if you get me. At 4.5 volts I get a slight additional taste that I can't place but it only adds to a really good mixture of flavours. For me this could be an all-day vape or a dessert one.
It is slightly sweet, but who wants a banana spit that isn't?

AV4 Tobacco - Ace Vapers take on RY4
12 mg
Unlike most RY4 type flavours, this one uses steeped tobacco.
With an ego I'd describe it as a sweet caramel tobacco, but on my lambo, increase the voltage and it has more of a tobacco taste, a mild tobacco, plus a touch of popcorn. These juices have been matured a little and this one probably benefits the most from the extra steeping. But this is the best of this very popular flavour I have found. I had just enough left to taste again for this review and it's been hard hanging on to some of any to find out what extra steeping would do with them all. This I had to hide away because I'm an RY4 fan or I'd not have a drop to drip.

Exotic Plum
18 mg
This is a flavour that is hard to find, but should appeal to fruit lovers. When I first tried it I could taste plum, so much plum that it was almost like eating one, a Victoria plum I think. But if you can bear to hang on to it a while it gets much better.
On an ego it is pure plum, and it is sweeter now than when new. I'd say now that it is a ripe, juicy plum flavour.
On the lavatube at 4 volts I taste a little strawberry as well. At 4.5 volt it seems to return to plum and is not as sweet, so I hope nobody minds me saying that the 'sweet spot' for me is 4 volts, although it is yummy on an ego and tastes good at higher voltages.
If I want a fruit dessert vape, of all the flavours I have, this is the one I'm going to be vaping for now. I hope I can keep a bit to go with my plum duff.

I expected that. Most doctors, especially consultants, receive a lot of money from pharmacuetical companies and will only accept evidence from pharmacuetical companies, who are against vaping because it stops people and the NHS buying their drugs.

Dick Puddlecote may appear to be a scaremonger and on the side of tobacco, but what he writes agrees with what I have learnt.
Maybe the idea is to kill us all off, which would save a lot of money in pension payments.
Same as the current scandal about refusing to treat older people for cancer to save money because 'they're too old'. Already a number of doctors refuse to do surgery on smokers, but will do if paid privately.