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Post by markm on Dec 21, 2013 18:11:05 GMT
You are working that poor battery pretty hard with the 30s, It would take quite a while to fully charge from fully flat, I'm puzzled how you could have time to go through two full cycles.
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Post by markm on Dec 21, 2013 8:36:44 GMT
There are too many organisations who are sticking a finger in each ear And playing the "la, la, la......we're not listening" game!
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Post by markm on Dec 20, 2013 19:54:27 GMT
Mark, can you either put the email address of Simon Burns secretary on this thread, or if not PM it to me. Gary, just fwd you the email I was passed, it's got the contact details still showing ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png)
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Post by markm on Dec 20, 2013 15:32:15 GMT
A mini DID sort of fits on an EGO battery. ![](http://s30.postimg.cc/5neyq9k81/image.jpg)
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Post by markm on Dec 20, 2013 15:00:26 GMT
There is nothing that will not leek under some conditions. They have got, and are getting, much better all the time, but As you are feeding liquid to the heating coil, which is sat in the airflow, there Will ALWAYS be a possibility for some level of leekage. It is an inherent feature of all devices, sorry.
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Post by markm on Dec 20, 2013 14:54:01 GMT
Sadly leaky politicians spend half their time harming others, A few drops of e-juice would get my vote any day of the week.
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Post by markm on Dec 20, 2013 14:32:03 GMT
Getting a lot of very positive response from everyone I explain this to today. I am making a point with everyone that it's not just vapers and anyone they know Who thinks they are a good idea should come along. I do hope other face to face vendors are doing similar because the word needs to be spread By all means at our disposal. Don't let this slip past all those that are still unaware. Vapers for justice. ![](http://s18.postimg.cc/o6nm6nrzt/image.jpg)
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Post by markm on Dec 20, 2013 12:43:58 GMT
There is intent brewing in those eyes, or has it already started? There seems to be more bottoms than heads..............
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Post by markm on Dec 20, 2013 12:26:39 GMT
As a vendor, and of the very visible open to the world market type, I am acutely aware of how thin this ice is. I do display over 18 only signs aNd on the weekend shoo away youngsters. I understand that it not only has the potential to kill off vaping but also bring Personal dangers in the form of a mob of angry mothers to do me physical harm!
However I do worry that, as almost all smokers start in or around their early teens. Why should they be prevented from escaping tobacco, until they have smoked long enough To be hooked on nicotine for life.
In a sensible world things would be viewed very differently.
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Post by markm on Dec 20, 2013 9:37:10 GMT
Brilliant, I started recruiting in the shop yesterday and was mostly met with enthusiasm. So I'm hopeful of raising a good group and get noticed. I managed to get the email for Simon Burns office manager, so that may get through To him quicker. The more ways we knock on his door, the better our Chances of getting him to lend visible support.
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Post by markm on Dec 20, 2013 8:29:43 GMT
When Jeremy Mean confidently stated that no ecig could pass as a medicinal product we all reacted with the "but how can he know that?"
There are two immutable facts about ecigs that both med regs and consumer products regulation cover.
1) they are all refillable - it is in their nature - the vapour has to come out and that will always mean we can refill them.
2) They all leak - some more than others certainly and with experience we can reduce the problem in any given device, but never the less it is not possible, due to the nature of the way they work, to make anything that can not leak at some time.
if they are allowed to pursue these points we can never win, all the rest is possible to work around, these two points are a brick wall. If you can come up with something that could jump through both those hoops, then you have invented an entirely new product. The combination of wick, coil and air tube whatever their configuration means they allow liquid in and liquid out. That's why Mr Mean was so confident in his assertion, they had worked out we could not resolve either!
Have either of these points caused any harm to anyone? I have never heard of anyone being anything other than irritated by them. As vapers we all learn that it is one of the prices we pay - kitchen roll is often referred to as vaper towel. Just as smokers accept they are going to smell, like us with our leeks, they then don't give it much thought after that.
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Post by markm on Dec 20, 2013 8:08:21 GMT
Thanks Vanessa, its: BBC Essex Radio building, new London rd, Chelmsford. I have invited Simon Burns MP, I have just discovered he may be one of us! I was passed a snippet that came from his office earlier this year: Quote"
Simon has asked me to pass the following on to you.
‘I am a great fan of e-cigarettes and other such products – indeed, I have one myself. If they help people stop smoking they can only be a good thing’."
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As you may remember Simon was in the running for speaker of the house job in the summer. Fingers crossed that he will lend us visible support.
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Post by markm on Dec 19, 2013 19:45:58 GMT
It's not realy possible to do the calculation, When my wife smoked she got about 10% of what I did from each one. She would light them, then put them in an ashtray to burn themselves out. How much of the nic anyone gets from each ciggy would require blood tests To establish.
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Post by markm on Dec 19, 2013 15:29:52 GMT
Ok it's been a slow day here in the shop, I have passed on the idea to,the few customers I have had. in the mean timei have started emailing, forts a journalist I met this summer and just now simon Burns, my MP. if you are in the Chelmsford area on the 11th, then come along, email simon too. the more email she gets the more likely he will turn out, that goes for anyone else you can think of. any suggestions add their names, email below and we can all pester them.
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Post by markm on Dec 19, 2013 13:00:54 GMT
He is truly outstanding, we need more thinking like him, even if they can't Be quite as eloquent.
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