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Post by Ancient Hermit on Aug 1, 2013 18:23:22 GMT
Mostly I was thinking about the PA Sweetener and others like it if I can find them. I'm a diabetic, but like cooking and especially making cakes. If I can get the sugar out of them, then I could have at it more or less guilt free! Actually the flavours could make for some fun too as suggested! I'm just starting in mixology and don't yet have any sorts of flavours in stock, but will in a week or two I hope, but if anyone else fancies trying it out too then we could have even more recipes to swap than normal! LOL Could be a big hit at meets I suspect!
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Post by Ancient Hermit on Aug 1, 2013 15:38:52 GMT
So, the flavours most of us use come from cooking as I understand things. Is it still safe to use them that way or are they specifically tweaked for vaping? I'm mostly wondering about using sweetners in cakes. I do miss cakes! So if I can use them safely then I'd like to! Does anyone here happen to know for sure? ??? EDIT, Sorry folks I had to edit the title, clearly the heat has me on the ropes today! LOL
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Post by Ancient Hermit on Aug 1, 2013 9:23:23 GMT
Getting fed up with filling pro tank every time I fill it no matter how careful I am or how much I put in I always get juice running out of mouth piece. Anybody else get this or a cure Well some of the wet output is often the liquid that has formed and makes the gurgling noise, it's above the atty coil and condenses in the long tube as far as I can figure out. I invert my tanks over a tissue and let it drain out, before filling. I fold the tissue over about 4 times as it's often quite a bit of liquid to drain To aid me in this I had a lucky find the other day. The pourer from a bottle of Asda sesame seed oil is perfect for the job of holding an inverted protank. Here's a pic of the two I have so far collected. I simply fit them into any handy hole of about 20mm, I think it was. It's handy to support the tank while filling too. Hope it helps!
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Post by Ancient Hermit on Aug 1, 2013 8:37:37 GMT
Hehe, now this is getting interesting; I also placed a small order with another (a really fairly young company), and I did this on Monday July 29th at 11:00Hrs. I had the package from them in my hands exactly 24 hours later on Tuesday July 30th! So impressed by this was I that an hour later I placed another small order for some other bits I wanted from them, and by now really needed due to being a newb to mixology, and I had forgotten to get something basic which I needed. I felt that this quick service would get me out of a jam fast if it were able to continue. A few hours passes and I find out that there had been a small problem with my first order, wrong size caps for spiked dropper top, cap was too short with dropper fitted. I mailed them saying thanks for the great service, I'd already placed another order but since discovered the caps would not fit on the bottle. We exchange a mail or two across Tuesday. I was told sorry for mix up they would send proper caps in my other order. I was also invited to pick a free flavouring by way of an extra apology. I was very pleasantly surprised at this turn of events. Told them which one and they said fine, no problem, and also as I was a mixer, had decided to send me 5 free 10ml bottles to use under the 5 wrong caps which they had mistakenly sent, and which they were designed to fit! They dispatched that one on Wednesday, first thing and I am fully confident I will see it in the morning. So there really are suppliers who can and also choose to go the extra mile for a customer! They are not as rare as you may guess. Long may they continue in that way. I know I shall do my best to encourage them to prosper over others who don't: why wouldn't I? It's a good symbiosis in my view. In your example it was the company you used who made the mistake, not the customer. Yes the company you dealt with was good about it but it was still their error which created the situation. I never said in my post that no other companies would do similar things to my example, I said "not many". Also I'm puzzled by you opening with the phrase "Hehe, now this is getting interesting" - it sounds out of place and as if you are taking joy in this thread. Hehe is used by some to mark amusement. This was the case this time too - in the wee small hours when I typed it, it had amused me to see you make exactly the same sort of mess of things as I normally manage to do! I felt a lot less alone at that point, however it is the morning now, and it's business as usual as far as I can see.
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Post by Ancient Hermit on Aug 1, 2013 1:10:51 GMT
I can't comment on postage delays as my orders have arrived in good time but what I can say is I find them to be a very friendly company with good communications and I'm only too happy to continue using them. Just a few weeks ago I had placed an order of a selection of DIY juice supplies and remembered soon after that I'd forgot to add an item to my order. I went back to their site and placed another order for this item and was pleasantly surprised to later receive an email from them saying they had noticed I had two orders so would be sending them as one but to compensate me for the extra postage I had paid they were going to put an extra bottle of flavouring in with my order. It was totally my mistake and they were in no way obliged to make a gesture like this so I can only applaud them for this. I can't imagine many other companies doing the same. Hehe, now this is getting interesting; I also placed a small order with another (a really fairly young company), and I did this on Monday July 29th at 11:00Hrs. I had the package from them in my hands exactly 24 hours later on Tuesday July 30th! So impressed by this was I that an hour later I placed another small order for some other bits I wanted from them, and by now really needed due to being a newb to mixology, and I had forgotten to get something basic which I needed. I felt that this quick service would get me out of a jam fast if it were able to continue. A few hours passes and I find out that there had been a small problem with my first order, wrong size caps for spiked dropper top, cap was too short with dropper fitted. I mailed them saying thanks for the great service, I'd already placed another order but since discovered the caps would not fit on the bottle. We exchange a mail or two across Tuesday. I was told sorry for mix up they would send proper caps in my other order. I was also invited to pick a free flavouring by way of an extra apology. I was very pleasantly surprised at this turn of events. Told them which one and they said fine, no problem, and also as I was a mixer, had decided to send me 5 free 10ml bottles to use under the 5 wrong caps which they had mistakenly sent, and which they were designed to fit! They dispatched that one on Wednesday, first thing and I am fully confident I will see it in the morning. So there really are suppliers who can and also choose to go the extra mile for a customer! They are not as rare as you may guess. Long may they continue in that way. I know I shall do my best to encourage them to prosper over others who don't: why wouldn't I? It's a good symbiosis in my view.
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Post by Ancient Hermit on Jul 31, 2013 23:57:44 GMT
I looked into the other threads about them on this forum, I decided to give them the benefit of the doubt as it seemed it could be sheer bad luck. I placed a small order with them on 26th. There was no warning about any delay as far as I could see, and I made a point of looking, certainly nothing like the one that is there right now. Paid the extra for first class etc. (about £4.10 I think) Goods arrived on 31st. No paper invoice. Given that experience I'm not really sure if I would order again or not, was not bad nor good, so I'm left just not sure. Goods seemed fine. Prices were not bad, but not entirely thrilling. I've had better service for free delivery (second class letter post) with one retailer; Arrived in about 3 days. This has been consistent on 3 orders. Also with another supplier for £1.90 (described as standard); Arrived in 24 hours. This has been consistent over about 6 orders or more. Another for 2.50 (auto calculated); arrived in 24 hours, this is consistent so far on 2 orders. (EDIT, sorry just remembered second one is due tomorrow) With another I had mediocore service for £4.49 delivery, but still far quicker than LTE on this occasion. I must add that I ordered from all of these sources on the same day within an hour of each other. I only offer this as a comparison of how they all did on the same day. It's not meant to be a supplier review. (but maybe that's not a bad idea for the future either!) I'll leave it to all of you to decide what you think about all that. I hope it provides some helpful insight.
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Post by Ancient Hermit on Jul 31, 2013 21:09:12 GMT
Well yes, but it was 72mg I was after and that 54mg thing is what has been annoying me so badly - ah well, nothing to be done about it I guess. I guess I'll have to go stateside for the other stuff once the delivery thing becomes clearer, assuming it's still plausible at that point. I do hope Royal Mail and their rules is not going to torpedo the industry, that is what the Government are for! LOL
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Post by Ancient Hermit on Jul 31, 2013 20:41:29 GMT
Thanks Perpetua, I do have Frogster's one bookmarked already as potential source as I do want 72mg. I'm maybe looking for PG as well at that strength, and that is terribly hard to find over here. When you look at the sheer range offered by nic vape for example then look over the uK supply situation, it does make one very sad to be stuck with so little choice, and more or less no sign of any or much competition in the market place. I'm still not sure if I should just make myself one more nic vape customer. If only there were some seriously good choices to be had over here. Those actually having any stock is really something big over here right now, and that's not a good situation. If I could I would really prefer to support a local supplier, but they need to meet me half way and have some decent stock to choose from and price it competitively. Frogster's AC seems to have 72mg VG covered fairly decently and that is to be applauded, but what on earth are the rest of them playing about at? Sorry, did not mean to rant, but it has been a truly vexing search so far. In harder times like these it's a really good idea for a business to try and shine and therefore make some headway if only in goodwill rather than chance falling away as an also ran. You can probably tell that this has been much on my mind the last day or two - I'll get over myself soon I hope!
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Post by Ancient Hermit on Jul 31, 2013 15:51:35 GMT
It says on their web page that Pirates Vape are going to be closed for 6 weeks and they are out of stock from what I can see anyway. There was mention of some sort of stock issue and that all their nic will in future be coming from some supplier or other that I have not heard of(presumably a new and better one?). It does not say when the 6 weeks started though, so one is left to presume that it may well be closed for quite for a while yet.
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Post by Ancient Hermit on Jul 30, 2013 13:35:39 GMT
Personally I've saved about as much as Perpy since I started vaping . . . remind me, what can you get for 4p thesedays Dave? 2 'O' rings! Made a pair of Protanks have a much tighter draw and makes them a lot quieter!
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Post by Ancient Hermit on Jul 30, 2013 13:32:23 GMT
Well done Sammy, sounds like you have it all in hand. Above all have some fun with it!
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Post by Ancient Hermit on Jul 29, 2013 22:58:18 GMT
just out of interest, what nic strength was the pre-mixed juice you bought? If this is the nic strength you're aiming for, at a 60-40 mix, you need to know what base the flavouring is in, nowhere on that site can I see whether their flavourings are in pg or vg. Also, what nic base are you going to use, pg or vg? Without these details, you'll not get the proportions right for either the nic stength or the pg-vg ratio. Once you know, pop the details into e-juicemeup calculator, and it'll tell you what you need It was 24mg Rolling Holborn from eVape. I've got the flavouring only now as well and am trying to develop a plan of how to make my mix seem like their mix, and then to cut it back to 50% of the original strength with VG as that is what I have come to really like. So I got to replicate theirs as close as I can first then cut it back to half strength, and I am so glad I made rough notes on what I did to theirs at the time, thanks to some really good advice here on that bit!! Theirs is 50/40 so the label says! Then they list the rest of what's in it and that must account for the last 10% I can only guess. I covered that in more detail earlier on in the thread, (or was it in another?). I'm clearly too tired right now! It's going to be a fair bit of detective work ahead, as well as some trial and error I'd imagine, but I really want to make a decent job of this one. As my supplies were running low, I realised how much I would miss it. I've decided to buy some more and cut it back to half strength like before to see me through the learning phase for making my own version. I learned that the resulting mix from cutting back theirs is best allowed to steep for at least a week after the remix is done. A week or two more than that makes it really perform to it's best. Just to make matters a little harder I have now got a new PG AND VG in stock, but they are in some serious quantities, and the economics of it makes it well worth learning to get that right as well. OK, so it's a lot of variables to juggle at once, but I just have to get this one right, hence trying to do my homework on it all! I'm using EJMU for working out a base of my own, not decided on which nic I will buy yet, but may be 100% VG as I greatly prefer VG over PG. I jsut got a litre each of PG and VG today from Klassicool. I'll grab a second bottle of the flavouring soon too. I can play with no nic for a few small 5ml samples while I decide on nic supplier. I reckon I am taking this about as good and steady as I can see how for now.
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Post by Ancient Hermit on Jul 29, 2013 9:27:07 GMT
Hi all, I have some VG diluent from a well known retailer, which has been labelled as being pre cut adulterated with 15% deionised water. I was wondering if this is an average percentage. Next time you are near your bottle of VG could you glance the label to see what percentage you got please? I'm just interested to learn what an average typical percentage number might actually be, rather than just endlessly guess about it.
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Post by Ancient Hermit on Jul 29, 2013 9:21:39 GMT
Or just use a cheapie Vodka if you've no reasons not to AH . . . it will keep so much better than a large bottle of water, the time it will take most home mixers to use up. I do like the idea & thinking behind that well enough, but I read that it diminishes vapour compared with DIW and I do like vapour! I also don't drink, not that this is a big issue in this case, but avoiding alcohol might be preferred for me I think.
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Post by Ancient Hermit on Jul 28, 2013 22:29:47 GMT
Did you find that Klassicool to be ok? I saw a few inconclusive opinions all over the web, but they were speculative as they had never actually tried it, however since you have had some I'd be interested to know how you found it to be if you would not mind sharing that info? Hi mate, i am a noob at this mixing, but i have had no problems with their PG or VG, and reading about the forums, i have seen quite a few people saying they use them. I got the Pharma graded stuff off them Thank heavens for that, I got a couple of litres winging their way to me right now! One of each. One says pharma for sure the other said food/cosmetic, but BOTH claimed ok for ecigs at the point of sale.
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