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Where would you say carto tanks fit into the scheme of things - something like clearos<Carto<RBT<RBA? Sorry about the vague general nature of the question; up until I saw this thread I skimmed past anything I saw mentioning cartos as I thought they were only referring to the things on top of cig-alikes...

So have had a quick google and you tube - blimey - another continent that I didn't know existed has revealed itself on Planet Vape I'm still lost - many of the articles/videos I've come across give the impression that cartos had their time in the sun but superceded by something .. RBA's ?? Obviously from what you've all said in response to Steve (VapeStorm)'s query they are very much alive and kicking!

Are they worth considering from a newbie's point of view? (i.e. someone like me!) What would you use them on - vw device or mechs? Going to hit the sack - look forward to seeing your insights tomorrow! Promise I will do some more googling too - but this was such a curveball, I just had to ask

Great news mel - wish you all the best for a quick, comfortable as possible, recovery

thanks for the heads up ionian. All the big name you tube reviewers I've watched seemed seem to be enamoured of the expro - its good to get an actual owner's take on it. Hmm not the automatic winner it looked to be then. ...

Looks to be between the KF series (lite plus leader of the pack?), taifun GT/GS, Squape, Expro ... btw - thanks for the not-leaking-badly info re the KF too guys.

enjay - thanks for the UD AGI suggestion - looks a bit too complicated for me at this stage lol.

Thanks for the tips guys - I have a lot of video research to do! The spheroid looks great but it may be out of my price bracket... whilst I don't trust my luck with not tipping the kayfun and getting leaky! I came across promising references to the expromiser (think it was called that - browser crashed then I had to go off) - got good reviews but is out of stock (from germany poss..) - anyone seen that one? Please excuse the rushed response - having fences put back (after storm collapse) tomorrow and am trying to get the debris out of the way lol; also have dinner on the hob - who said men can't multitask?

Thanks for all the info folks! - have bought the kit in the link provided by dinamic22

Thanks dinamic22 - is the best for me at the mo - will be using my mvp and vv3 I think - vtr too precious to risk lol and nemmy still inbound so will have a lot to learn there (building coils and such next on the list after learning to diy my juices)

Lol lush - sorry didn't have my brain plugged in - just realised you were aiming this at newdawn in the first place - doh!

Thanks Clivia

The usb charging options seems best then - at least no extra 18650s or whatever plus a charger to pack! My mvp and vv3 will get to see the sun! Oh - need to sort out a holiday first!

Cheers