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Post by lynwlt on Feb 17, 2011 10:19:29 GMT
Which she WILL DO soon... The cat's needs for BARF diet are very different from dogs because unlike most other carnivores, cats eat almost no vegetable matter as part of their regular evolutionary diets. Whereas animals like bears and dogs commonly supplement their diet of meat with fruits, berries, roots, etc when they can get them, cats feed exclusively on meat, usually freshly killed. Cats, including the great cats, have a genetic anomaly that prevents them from tasting sweetness that probably has an important part to play in their meat-only habits. In captivity, cats cannot (and should not) be adapted to a vegetarian diet because they cannot synthesize all the amino acids they need from plant material. Specifically this applies to Taurine, the lack of which causes the cat's retina to slowly degenerate, causing eye problems and ultimately permanent blindness. This condition is called central retinal degeneration (CRD). Cow's milk is a poor resource of taurine and adult cats are generally lactose intolerant. You can feed cats lactose-free milk and while it may be perfectly safe, is still not a substitute for meat. This contrasts with domesticated dogs, which commonly are fed a mixture of meat and vegetable products and have been adapted in some cases to a completely vegetarian diet. Despite these proven and well known feline necessities, the majority of brand-name cat foods are primarily grain based, often containing large amounts of corn or rice and supplemented with meats and essential vitamins and these simply do not meet the nutritional requirements of cats but much less so a lactating or pregnant cat. In the case of the cat, which is an obligate carnivore and a hunter, the biologically appropriate diet is based largely upon animal derived foods. Basically, whatever nutrition can be derived from a whole fresh raw carcass – in its entirety – constitutes a biologically appropriate diet. Relative to size, domestic cats are very effective predators. They ambush and dispatch vertebrate prey using tactics similar to those of leopards and tigers by pouncing; they then deliver a lethal neck bite with their long canine teeth that severs the victim's spinal cord, or asphyxiate it by crushing the windpipe. The domestic cat can hunt and eat about one thousand species—many big cats will eat fewer than 100. Although, theoretically, big cats can kill most of these species as well, they often do not due to the relatively low nutritional content that smaller animals provide. Cats have highly specialized teeth and a digestive tract suitable to the digestion of meat. The premolar and first molar together compose the carnassial pair on each side of the mouth, which efficiently functions to shear meat like a pair of scissors. While this is also present in canines, it is highly developed in felines. The cat's tongue has sharp spines, or papillae, designed to retain and rip flesh from a carcass. Cats also rely on bones as a major part of their diet for a variety of reasons including teeth cleaning and the myriad of benefits and nutritional attributes of bones as well as their psychological benefits. Cats are also known to munch on grass, leaves, shrubs and houseplants. They do not eat a lot in one sitting, but prefer to have it as a snack. Eating vegetation in this way may aid the cat's digestive system and can prevent hairballs. Lynda
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Post by lynwlt on Feb 16, 2011 14:40:44 GMT
Scylla, I was charged £40 to collect a gift from a friend last year. She had painted a picture of my back garden from a photo she had taken when she visited a couple of years ago. She estimated the value as $60. That was for the frame because obviously the painting was only worth our memories. (priceless!)
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Post by lynwlt on Feb 16, 2011 14:33:39 GMT
I would be very happy to test any mods available. I have to confess that I am the person most likely (apart from Scylla) to get the one that doesn't work. I think that should make me a VERY important candidate for testing prototypes. I live in hope.... Lynda.
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Post by lynwlt on Feb 16, 2011 14:12:46 GMT
Cheaper than chips! I might venture into a 'within customs limit' order once they come back into stock.
I'm far too cowardly, based on 'luck', to make a big order..
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Post by lynwlt on Feb 16, 2011 14:06:45 GMT
I concur with all of the above... (I'm a concurring kind of person) I think the 'tank' is probably the best option, once the little niggles have been ironed out. I'm looking forward to trying the LR version..
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PS. Scylla, hope your toof is better..((()))
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Post by lynwlt on Feb 16, 2011 0:03:07 GMT
Lilac, Don't flap about this.... The thing is, you have already started, and Tyson isn't going to suffer from any deficiencies in diet whilst you decide on how to feed him from now on! I'll try and find you some links to suppliers in your area. Did you ask your butcher if he did 'doggy mince'? There is really nothing easier than slinging raw meat into a bowl and putting it down on the floor. You can take out of the freezer the night before and it will be ready for the next day. You can add the refinements when you are home to do so. Don't overthink this. Tyson is a dog, dogs eat meat. Anything else is a bonus.
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Post by lynwlt on Feb 15, 2011 21:05:18 GMT
How would touch sensors cope with being in a pocket, Sean?
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Post by lynwlt on Feb 15, 2011 16:56:51 GMT
Lilac, I don't feed kibble at all now...
Jamb, you'd get good advice from either of the groups that I posted links to. What tests did your vet carry out? It certainly sounds as if something aggravated her digestive tract. If you look in the files on K9 nutrition link, there is a huge quantity of information about digestion problems and you may well get some clues from them. I dived right in with the change of diet, sounds as if Lilac did the same thing, but Mungo didn't have any underlying conditions. Good luck with her.
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Post by lynwlt on Feb 15, 2011 11:49:37 GMT
Lilac, Mungo is still on his raw diet but I am ashamed to admit that I still haven't got round to properly investigating what I should be giving him!!
I didn't wean him off his kibble, just dived straight in with meat. I feed 2% of his ideal weight, which for Mungo is about 440g per day. I vary the meats as much as possible, add an egg a couple of days a week,occasionally a dollop of cottage cheese or yoghurt. He also has garlic capsules daily and Omega3/6 oils. 10% offal too.
I throw in the occasional raw carrot, lump of swede or whatever is handy. I'm not sure they do anything nutritionally but he likes them and they are free calories for him.
I really struggle with bones! I live in fear of him choking or having an impaction because he is such a gulper. Some of the suppliers of raw meat do products that contain ground bone in the right proportion and I keep meaning to organise my freezer so that I can order from them.
In the meantime, he has supervised access to marrow bone knuckles and I'll feed him a chicken wing, gripped tightly in a pair of pliers! He is thriving on this..
K9Nutrition-subscribe@yahoogroups.com and Britbarf are groups worth joining. The latter has a list of suppliers too.
Are you feeding both dogs raw now?
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Post by lynwlt on Feb 14, 2011 21:47:16 GMT
Perpy, Wouldn't the dead Tornado batteries have been useful to one of the modders? Not that I know anything about 'modding' but would have thought they might have been used for making a 'tank' mod, or am I just being daft? Lynda
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Post by lynwlt on Feb 14, 2011 8:59:20 GMT
Tony2,
Me please..
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Post by lynwlt on Feb 12, 2011 14:28:54 GMT
I want to know where Camper gets his "neat" genes from..... If I knew where to buy them from, my life would be so much easier... Sorry Chrissie, I know that's not a helpful comment...
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