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Post by Richard46 on Dec 7, 2015 18:40:36 GMT
I think it's a positive step in the right direction despite the shortcomings of the eVoke device. As a prescription device it makes it harder for other authorities to look at ecig use as a bad thing. Especially if other more traditional devices get through the vetting process. We may all hate BT and BP's involvement in this, but if it has the effect of normalising ecig use, I personally don't give two hoots who are behind the device. Let's face it, we have all gladly or otherwise handed over our hard earned dosh to BT for years. More money than I dare to think about, so a few quid more is not going to make any difference. If they put them on prescription, essentially they will be free to me as I already pay a monthly payment for my prescriptions anyway. It will make it harder for workplaces to ban them, and also harder for other public areas such as bars to ban them. Despite the upcoming TPD restrictions, this is a game changer in terms of the acceptability of e cigs in society. In the UK at least. So I say BRING IT ON. Totally respect your opinions but if you think there is a bright future for vapers in the hands of BAT and its ilk then I must disagree. They will pursue the path of proprietary systems and dependency on their products; if they work. If not they just carry on reaping profits from the burnt stuff.
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Post by Richard46 on Dec 7, 2015 10:55:39 GMT
It is clearly not an e-cig as we know it.
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Post by Richard46 on Dec 6, 2015 14:05:29 GMT
Two variants of Nicoventures' e-Voke - a reworking of their earlier Voke model, designed by Kind Consumer (couldn't make it up!) - received MHRA marketing approval (pdf link) a couple of weeks ago. But I'm sure more will appear before the TPD sledgehammer comes into force. While I agree that the move ought to be positive, there's little doubt that they'll be used against vaping. "No need to take the risk with those dodgy unregulated, untested devices, here's our shiny, expensive gizmo that comes from your trusted doctor..." Love the idea of renaming them SSSS - a few days ago one (I think it was in Sefton) was spotted advertising help to quit vaping!They need to have something to stop us doing against the remote possibility that vaping is allowed to stop most of us smoking. Fabulous irony that one part of our joined up health services will be prescribing something other parts are already trying to get us to give up. I just smell a whole family of rats. These free prescriptions will almost certainly be time limited; even those who quit smoking with them will be left with a nic habit intact and no one (except 'us' perhaps) to tell them what and where to get decent vaping kit. Even if the TPD implementation allows any decent legal kit through it will be illegal to advertise it. I may be being overly cynica but I cannot help but suspect that vaping is being set up to fail in public perception and on a grand scale. Result far more effective demolition job than an outright ban. The Tobacco; NRT and SSSS industries can all give a sigh of relief and carry on as before.
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Post by Richard46 on Dec 6, 2015 8:36:56 GMT
Agree; plus vapers are going to get even more flack if we are seen as getting our kicks for free. Makes it worse that with the ban on most commercial e-cig advertising the only kit smokers will hear about will be crappy med devices supplied by Tobacco Co accompanied by advice from a non-vaping doctor or SSSS (Smug Stop Smoking Service) employee*. If it gets people off the smoking the advice will be credited; if it is a disaster the e-cigs will be blamed. Ramble Ramble Rant Rant ,,,, Edit *Honorable exception for Louise Ross and a few other good guys.
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Post by Richard46 on Dec 5, 2015 19:59:59 GMT
I have a nearly 4 year old Provari and it is still immaculate; admittedly not been used for a year but still.
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Post by Richard46 on Dec 4, 2015 17:41:47 GMT
Brilliant; will be making use of that over the weekend. We all need to.
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Post by Richard46 on Dec 3, 2015 17:48:46 GMT
Could anyone advise me if their is any information available regarding the following parts; Vaping> In Private Cars/Vans: Has the 2006 Smoking Regs.been altered to cover vaping?. Passive Vaping> Been asked if their is any danger involved regarding similar facts of second hand smoking?. Also as their is no odour(?) with vaping, how would someone know you had been vaping if they were not present at the time. Trying to say Is It Legal To Vape In This Way ?. There are no laws in the UK that relate to vaping in cars/vans. There is no substantial evidence that first hand vaping is dangerous let alone second hand affects. Some juices may leave an odour. It is doubtful that many are unpleasant or would be associated with vaping.
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Post by Richard46 on Dec 1, 2015 17:21:56 GMT
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Post by Richard46 on Dec 1, 2015 9:34:56 GMT
Just watched. The WHO is briefly depicted as a victim of BAT's illegal activity. Is there any one anywhere shocked that a tobacco company has no moral scruples; it would be bigger news if they had any ethical values.
It is like the international football bribes scandal had been reported entirely as evidence of corruption in the Russian and Quatar governments with FIFA as an innocent force for fair play.
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Post by Richard46 on Nov 26, 2015 11:24:05 GMT
Thanks for the help everyone; brilliant.
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Post by Richard46 on Nov 25, 2015 17:27:43 GMT
This has probably been asked before but I am planning to buy some friends vaping Christmas pressies via FastTech. I have not used them before (or not recently anyway) Could any of their regular customers hazard a guess about my chances of getting mods etc in time. Just ball park estimates I will not complain if disappointed.
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Post by Richard46 on Nov 22, 2015 12:21:33 GMT
There are 18350 size i.e. 18 dia 350 length. Quite rare now but I think Creme de Vape still sell them. Not cheap.
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Post by Richard46 on Nov 21, 2015 18:05:30 GMT
I'm stocking up on tanks and drippers this Christmas , as long as we can enjoy the variety of eliquids from the variety of vendors we've become acustommed to then I will be slightly ok with a 2 ml refillable unleakable tank . Bottom line for me is that vaping stops me from smoking as long as I can still vape then good . Naive ? Tell me if I'm missing a trick If you are sure you will be happy with the kit that will be legal after TPD then no need to stock up prior to it; surely?
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Post by Richard46 on Nov 21, 2015 15:23:21 GMT
I suspect we may be underestimating how damaging the no leak tank requirement might be. My guess is that the only kind of refill that will pass this test is some kind of sealed cartridge system that only opens once inside the atyy. Think ink jet refills and think what a hugely profitable (and wasteful) game they are.
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Post by Richard46 on Nov 18, 2015 15:28:28 GMT
The 72 is £8.99 the 48 is £5.99. By my (very quick) calculations they produce precisely the same amount of e-juice per penny unless you look beyond 5 decimal places of a penny.
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