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Mar 28, 2015 0:16:03 GMT robby said:

Mar 27, 2015 22:24:08 GMT Chrissie said:

They are so wrong It is up to the seller, not the buyer to contact the courier as they are the ones that paid for the service.

It was all in the packing Chrissie. The display is a piece of glass which looks a bit less than 2mm thick (DNA30 style). There was absolutely no protection. A wine glass would have had more chance travelling halfway round the world than that very delicate slither of glass. It should have been boxed. They know that alright, they also know that the things dont appear to work judging by the reviews that were there until they deleted the page and stopped selling them after a very short time. Of course the reviews were not there when I bought it. I wouldn`t blame any part of the supply chain, it had little or no chance of arriving in one piece.

Robbie, it wasn't the packaging, They probably broke them on purpose before sending them out because they knew they were defective and rather than be a responsible vendor & return them to their supplier for credit they sold them broken to try & get partial payment from you.

I know I gave you some info.  Send it as attachments to cigabuy & get them to fold while you are in dispute.   If you raise the claim Paypal will require you to send it back at your expense.   I literally attached an email from Cigabuy to my complaint submission showing them Cigabuy had agreed to a full refund if I dismissed my case and told Paypal I was willing to accept that refund in my complaint letter submission to PayPal and they still ruled that I had to send it back to an address that I tracked back to a CHI HOUSE in HONG KONG.

I had to threaten to send my submission to American Express and other credit card companies as well as several news agencies to report PayPal as protecting predatory sellers.  PayPal refunded me directly as they couldn't get reimbursement from vendor as decision was already made.

Hope it works out.  If you decide to escalate the Case be sure to Submit your evidence to complaint-response@paypal.com with your case number in the subject line right afterward.  (I had Called PayPal to tell them I was submitting evidence indicating fraud & they decided case before I submitted it 2 days later despite my call)

Be sure to include: 1) original product listing, 2) PDF of product page showing bad reviews or link where page was located, 3) Link showing where product specs were altered to avoid refunding customers, 4) allegation they purposely damaged them before shipment to try & get partial payment from you 5) Copies of all communications outside Paypal, 6) Link to their shipping and returns policy highlighting full refund for return shipping for wrong item description, 7) link to reports of them supplying false return address, 8) a demand that PayPal take action against this company for their predatory business practices to protect their customers from these practices, 9) Make sure PayPal is aware of your involvement with AAEC & your intention to post you experiences with the community. 

Let me know if you need any documents from me.  You have my email address.

They were developed using Evolv Patented Technlogy according to Spec Sheet

I did think I would see a greater preheat voltage in those traces I posted earlier both for the KX-40D & especially the Evolv DNA40.  That was surprising!

3 pics: 1) DNA40 vs KX-40D Wet Coil 2) DNA40 vs KX-40D Dry Coil 3) DNA40 vs KX-40D Test Results & Specs

All taken directly from the 2 videos listed.  Sorry thought that was clearly identified.

Mar 6, 2015 14:06:23 GMT Croak said:

I'd go with 3FVape. One of the ECF members has the same early version as Robby, it had the weak battery issue/only using one battery. He emailed 3FVape with a video of the problem, they told him they'd ship him a new one at no charge once they had them back in stock first of next week. And to keep his old one. Hard to beat service like that.

Just be sure and AVOID the newest one they have listed, the one that has the stainless 510 with the single air channel, and with the pics of the silver version having a brass firing button. It's the Waidea model and TC doesn't work, and the center pin is fixed, solid, doesn't move. Rubbish.

Just to Clarify about the newest versions of the Vapor Flasks on 3FVape Models #:2806/2834

As per 3FVape: 2806/2834 share the same chip with 1660/2101 made by Kangxin, you will see different open-screen message though. To be specific, you may see "KX-40D" which is from Kangxin, "DNA40" or nothing, which are from Sunlay. They customized those in chip, which is quite easy.  We tested 2806/2834 Versoin 3 for one week before we ship. Our products experts used those mods very heavily everyday. I also joined the activity to be a heavy vaper.

the center pin however is fixed, solid, doesn't move.  When asked if it could be upgraded to a floating spring loaded pin, the reply was:  We have talked to Kangxin and Sunlay regarding that though. Unfortunately, they don't have plans to move yet.