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Post by Perpetua on Apr 11, 2015 10:45:55 GMT
Note to self; slow down! Good plan. The 306 dripper and tip sound really good; are they 510 thread, and which choices should I select (for iStick 50w)? Thanks! They'll be compatible with your devices . . . and I'd go for the bridged version as the unbridged can be a little spitty, especially if you blast the heck out of them Kitty.
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Post by kittyvape on Apr 11, 2015 10:51:26 GMT
Note to self; slow down! Good plan. The 306 dripper and tip sound really good; are they 510 thread, and which choices should I select (for iStick 50w)? Thanks! They'll be compatible with your devices . . . and I'd go for the bridged version as the unbridged can be a little spitty, especially if you blast the heck out of them Kitty. Thanks Perpetua and, lol, yes, definitely a good plan. Thank you about the details; don't want no spitty stuff ... already got juice in my eye for the 2nd time this morning, lol (blowing thru a tank after washing). What's the difference between low and standard resistance? and standard and lined tips? Lined is a bit less spitty too? Great to have a cheaper easier way of flavour testing; would never have known about this otherwise ... appreciate.
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Post by Perpetua on Apr 11, 2015 11:02:05 GMT
Good plan. They'll be compatible with your devices . . . and I'd go for the bridged version as the unbridged can be a little spitty, especially if you blast the heck out of them Kitty. What's the difference between low and standard resistance? and standard and lined tips? Lined is a bit less spitty too? Great to have a cheaper easier way of flavour testing; would never have known about this otherwise ... appreciate. I'd go for standard resistance myself, low resistance was useful back in the days when we didn't have Variable Wattage/Voltage devices - they compensate now, by being able to tweak the settings you vape at. Although, if you try and push to much power through atomisers like these, then you'll blow them - so start low. I'd try the ACRYLIC VERSICOLOUR drip tips - you'll likely find them a better fit.
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Post by kittyvape on Apr 11, 2015 11:22:19 GMT
What's the difference between low and standard resistance? and standard and lined tips? Lined is a bit less spitty too? Great to have a cheaper easier way of flavour testing; would never have known about this otherwise ... appreciate. I'd go for standard resistance myself, low resistance was useful back in the days when we didn't have Variable Wattage/Voltage devices - they compensate now, by being able to tweak the settings you vape at. Although, if you try and push to much power through atomisers like these, then you'll blow them - so start low. I'd try the ACRYLIC VERSICOLOUR drip tips - you'll likely find them a better fit. Thank you Perpetua Great to know exactly what to get, and will be sure to start low. Definitely don't want to blow them.
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Post by Perpetua on Apr 11, 2015 11:35:15 GMT
Blowing isn't good kittyvape. There's a video and review here on using a 306 atomiser, the most common mistakes people make with dripping on any atomiser, is either flooding or not dripping enough eliquid on to the coil. It takes just a little practise to get the balance right . . . but it isn't difficult. www.honestecigarettereviews.com/joye-306-atomizer-review.html
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Post by kittyvape on Apr 11, 2015 11:47:48 GMT
Blowing isn't good kittyvape. There's a video and review here on using a 306 atomiser, the most common mistakes people make with dripping on any atomiser, is either flooding or not dripping enough eliquid on to the coil. It takes just a little practise to get the balance right . . . but it isn't difficult. www.honestecigarettereviews.com/joye-306-atomizer-review.htmlThanks Perpetua Will get reading and watching! And, lol, yes, no more blow
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Post by tim on Apr 11, 2015 22:34:38 GMT
tim But the matching is because of the physical size and contact area of the coil and not the resistance as such, you can make an x ohm coil in many different sizes by using different diameter wire. A mute point when kittyvape just has stock coils to choose from and I have probably only muddied the waters in this thread. You don't match watts to ohms, you match coils size, wicking and airflow to watts. The fowling has nothing to do with stock sub tank coils just rebuildable coils: Take a 2 mm wick and a target resistance of 1 ohm and you can make your Kanthal coil in all these ways (E: I have added the optimum watts at the end of each line) 1 wrap of 0.113 mm (37 AWG) < 1 W 2 wraps of 0.16 mm (34 AWG) 1.4 W 3 wraps of 0.202 mm (32 AWG) 3 W 4 wraps of 0.24 mm 4 W 5 wraps of 0.272 mm 6 W 6 wraps of 0.3 mm 8 W 7 wraps of 0.329 mm 10 W ... 14 wraps of 0.493 mm 30 W ... 43 wraps of 1 mm 300 W most of them very silly and you just wouldn't, but all are 1 ohm. That is what I said, the coil/wick being your ohms, no? Airflow is just a way to prevent overheating the coil (if this was theory) whilst providing a desired amount of vapour. So, any size coil can be made, at any ohms, for any wattage. As you have shown. Change the thickness of wire and you get a different set of outcomes. Change the diameter and you get a different set of outcomes. And so on.. This information was just advice for somebody who has just started, not someone who is dabbling with stacked batteries and sub-ohms. Maybe I could have worded it better, but I was trying not to confuse.
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Post by Greg on Apr 11, 2015 22:55:06 GMT
tim But the matching is because of the physical size and contact area of the coil and not the resistance as such, you can make an x ohm coil in many different sizes by using different diameter wire. A mute point when kittyvape just has stock coils to choose from and I have probably only muddied the waters in this thread. You don't match watts to ohms, you match coils size, wicking and airflow to watts. The fowling has nothing to do with stock sub tank coils just rebuildable coils: Take a 2 mm wick and a target resistance of 1 ohm and you can make your Kanthal coil in all these ways (E: I have added the optimum watts at the end of each line) 1 wrap of 0.113 mm (37 AWG) < 1 W 2 wraps of 0.16 mm (34 AWG) 1.4 W 3 wraps of 0.202 mm (32 AWG) 3 W 4 wraps of 0.24 mm 4 W 5 wraps of 0.272 mm 6 W 6 wraps of 0.3 mm 8 W 7 wraps of 0.329 mm 10 W ... 14 wraps of 0.493 mm 30 W ... 43 wraps of 1 mm 300 W most of them very silly and you just wouldn't, but all are 1 ohm. That is what I said, the coil/wick being your ohms, no? Airflow is just a way to prevent overheating the coil (if this was theory) whilst providing a desired amount of vapour. So, any size coil can be made, at any ohms, for any wattage. As you have shown. Change the thickness of wire and you get a different set of outcomes. Change the diameter and you get a different set of outcomes. And so on.. This information was just advice for somebody who has just started, not someone who is dabbling with stacked batteries and sub-ohms. Maybe I could have worded it better, but I was trying not to confuse. No you said you match watts to ohms which is wrong, or at least that's how it came across to me too.
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Post by decoy on Apr 11, 2015 23:06:18 GMT
im surprised the op can run a 1.2 ohm coil that high(34w)
the way i look at the what power to use with what coils is,the lower the resistance the more power is needed to heat the coil
is the i stick vv/vw and the op is running it at 3.4 volts and not watts because that would make more sence
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Post by tim on Apr 11, 2015 23:08:49 GMT
That is what I said, the coil/wick being your ohms, no? Airflow is just a way to prevent overheating the coil (if this was theory) whilst providing a desired amount of vapour. So, any size coil can be made, at any ohms, for any wattage. As you have shown. Change the thickness of wire and you get a different set of outcomes. Change the diameter and you get a different set of outcomes. And so on.. This information was just advice for somebody who has just started, not someone who is dabbling with stacked batteries and sub-ohms. Maybe I could have worded it better, but I was trying not to confuse. No you said you match watts to ohms which is wrong, or at least that's how it came across to me too. Ah, yes. Now I see. That is wrong. Apologies all round.
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Post by chrisde on Apr 12, 2015 9:02:20 GMT
If you are going to try the 306, which are a good choice, please be aware that they are very different to the high-wattage atomizers we commonly use today. Start the journey at a very low wattage - Try 7 or 8 watts. Even 10 watts can be too harsh with them, depending on your juice and your experience feeding them.
In my opinion, the best ones are the Cisco 306 1.8 ohms (http://www.ivapour-elixir.co.uk/atomisers/low-resistance-atomisers/cisco-lr510-atomiser.html). They are perfect for mechanicals, so around 4 volts or 9 watts.
I've used them for a long time, before the invention of the bottom fed rebuildables, but for me they are now obsolete because the rebuildables are a lot easier to feed and use and deliver a lot more vapour. But the flavour of the 306 is still remarkable.
Edith says: Ooops, I linked the 510s, not the 306. They are the same, though, the 510s just have a sleeve the 306 don't have. And you can use a standard drip tip with the 510s. Unfortunately, the vendor seems to be out of stock of the 1.8 306s.
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Post by kittyvape on Apr 14, 2015 15:13:48 GMT
Warm soapy water dip, dry, leave is what everyone mainly does? I don't bother doing anything between flavour changes . . . just vape through them kittyvape. An overnight soak in some Bicarbonate of Soda is a better way to clean heads - although strong flavours are better in a dedicated tank, as has been said. 306 drippers are a good way of testing new flavours: www.vapingthings.com/306_BRIDGED__BRIDGELESS_DRIPPING_ATOMISER/p1311952_7045908.aspxYou'll just need a 306 specific drip tip: www.vapingthings.com/306_DRIP_TIPS/cat1311953_1614574.aspx My own first mix is boston mud pie and that seems okay [but is the one that's dropped in flavour as soon as I switched to 0.5 coil), but did a couple of new mixes today (double chocolate mint, and cinnamon coffee cake, all Capella) and keep getting 'off' tastes in the 2 Aerotanks. As spacey has said, unless you give your mixes some time to steep . . . then they aren't going to taste very nice in anything that you use. If you'll forgive me saying, you're trying to do too much, to quickly - without having quite got to grips with what you're doing. Take your time a little more maybe? Hiya Perpetua Just received the 306 dripper and tip, but am unsure what to do now, lol. The drip tip doesn't fit over the dripper; am I right that it should? Looking forward to trying this out!
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Post by Greg on Apr 14, 2015 15:26:53 GMT
The cream coloured bit is just a cover, whip it off and then the drip tip will fit. It's easier to pull the cover off if you screw it onto mod first.
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Post by kittyvape on Apr 14, 2015 15:28:04 GMT
If you are going to try the 306, which are a good choice, please be aware that they are very different to the high-wattage atomizers we commonly use today. Start the journey at a very low wattage - Try 7 or 8 watts. Even 10 watts can be too harsh with them, depending on your juice and your experience feeding them. In my opinion, the best ones are the Cisco 306 1.8 ohms (http://www.ivapour-elixir.co.uk/atomisers/low-resistance-atomisers/cisco-lr510-atomiser.html). They are perfect for mechanicals, so around 4 volts or 9 watts. I've used them for a long time, before the invention of the bottom fed rebuildables, but for me they are now obsolete because the rebuildables are a lot easier to feed and use and deliver a lot more vapour. But the flavour of the 306 is still remarkable. Edith says: Ooops, I linked the 510s, not the 306. They are the same, though, the 510s just have a sleeve the 306 don't have. And you can use a standard drip tip with the 510s. Unfortunately, the vendor seems to be out of stock of the 1.8 306s. Oops, didn't see your post until now. Sorry, chrisde. Thank you for explaining so clearly; tend to use the iStick 50w at up to 35w, so will make sure to turn it right down. None of my drip tips will fit with the dripper, but it ends up being a nice new drip tip for the iSticks, so that's cool. I'd love to go for the Cisco 306 tbh. Have got the page open that you linked to, but will wait to hear further.
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Post by kittyvape on Apr 14, 2015 15:31:20 GMT
The cream coloured bit is just a cover, whip it off and then the drip tip will fit. It's easier to pull the cover off if you screw it onto mod first. Thanks so much Greg! That certainly took some tugging, lol, but it's all fitted on the iStick 50w now and about to turn the watts right down. Have put a few drops down the drip tip, but nothing's happening when use it. Such a newb, lol
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