A bit of a strange question

[vapourized]

Now this may sound a strange thing to ask and it's primarily aimed to you vaping long timers out there but reading through some of the posts in the "not so newbie" parts of this wonderful forum, it becomes blatantly clear that I have a huge amount to learn because half the time I can't understand a single word you're talking about with the terminology used. No doubt over time I will get to know what on earth you are talking about but at the moment it sounds like you are talking in the language of Zobb from the planet Zobb.

Now to get back to my question. I assume like most newbies on here, I am vaping because it is an extremely good replacement to smoking - you stop smoking and take up vaping - simples. At the moment the method I vape is virtually identical to how I used to smoke, take a full drag, inhale deeply and exhale but I get the impression that as you vape for a longer period that it becomes something a little different. Instead of a smoking replacement it would appear (from how I read some of the posts) that vaping becomes a separate identity from smoking and has it's own methodology and reason for even doing it.

Obviously the intake of nicotine has some part to play with it but I just get the impression that the smoking part has now gone once you are well into it say after a year as an example but will vary from person to person I guess and vaping is the 'New' smoking habit in it's own right.

In a way I hope I'm right because at the moment I don't want to smoke but I definitely want to vape and as each day goes on then I can see me vaping indefinitely rather than quitting at Christmas time as I initially intended to do.

What do you kind folk think to my observations so far - true or way off base?

I'd be interested to know your thoughts, in the meantime I shall carry on vaping with my Maxi which I've been doing constantly since about 7.00 tonight, I must put it down soon.

Graham

[OneDay]

Vaping definitely becomes it's own entity/hobby/obsession. The technique for vaping vs smoking is to take a longer, slower draw, hold the vapour in your mouth and throat for a second or two, then either take it into the lungs or just exhale (preferably through the nose to improve the flavour)

I know I've given up smoking, but I enjoy vaping way too much to ever consider stopping.

There's a thread in the ne members section explaining much of the Zobbese by the way

[DiscoDes]

OK, you didn't really ask a question there.............................

But one part you sorta asked about was the method of vaping" on a Ecig?

Here's what the general consensus is... Press the button about half a second before you begin to take a draw, this preheats the coil. Then suck the initial vape into your mouth, take it slower than you would a Stinky, once you have a mouthful you can, if you wish, fully inhale. Or if you really want maximum vapour start as before but as you fill your mouth let some of the vape come out through your nose, without taking the mouthpiece out of your mouth fill your mouth again with vapour then inhale, this sort of double inhale, or pre-inhale really maxes the vapour production. It takes a bit of practice, if anything slow your draw down, giving the coil a chance to really vaporise the liquid.

Hope this helps.

[Chrissie]

I think you are right Graham

IMHO, I think most of us just find something that just works for us - for some that may even be a ciggie lookalike. For me it's been a purely mechanical big battery mod (early version GGTS) that is virtually unbreakable & Boge cartomisers that are as cheap as chips.Will I move on to something like a Penelope to use with my GGTS - probably, once I've used up all of my hundreds of Boge cartomisers I bought for less than 50p each from the last bulk order I placed with Health Cabin.

[vapourized]

Sept 18, 2012 22:11:13 GMT DiscoDes said:

OK, you didn't really ask a question there.............................

OK, sorry about that so to cut the whaffle out of the original post, then what I was asking was do you think that after the initial starting of vaping to overcome the smoking cessation, does vaping take on a different identity to a smoking replacement even though it's a very similar habit/hobby?

Graham

[cactusjack]

Sept 18, 2012 22:11:13 GMT DiscoDes said:

Or if you really want maximum vapour start as before but as you fill your mouth let some of the vape come out through your nose, without taking the mouthpiece out of your mouth fill your mouth again with vapour then inhale, this sort of double inhale, or pre-inhale really maxes the vapour production..

just tried that Whoooooo!

[womble]

Sept 18, 2012 22:19:13 GMT vapourized said:

Sept 18, 2012 22:11:13 GMT DiscoDes said:

OK, you didn't really ask a question there.............................

OK, sorry about that so to cut the whaffle out of the original post, then what I was asking was do you think that after the initial starting of vaping to overcome the smoking cessation, does vaping take on a different identity to a smoking replacement even though it's a very similar habit/hobby?

Graham

Yes it does.

Vaping is different, although it has the same characteristics as smoking.
I act differently while vaping, as to when I smoked.

I suspect it different for everyone, now I vape, as before I smoked, they are different, although one helped me stop the other.

[lobeydosser]

Along the same lines, but a little worried in case vaping is not the whole alteranative to smoking stinkies.

In the past, when I have stopped smoking (fags) and finished the course of nicotine replacement therapy, I have lasted 6, then 9 and finally 18 months smoke free.
Then inveriably some crisis would suddenly appear and I just had to have a fag.
Ofcourse you can no loger buy single fags, so I bought a packet, vowing to finish that and not buy anymore. That never worked and I was hooked again.

Now, my question is, will that happen again even though e-cigs are supposed to be a true alternative to smoking?
Will a crisis take me off vaping and back to ciggies?
Is Nicotine the only chemical in ciggies that is truely adictive and therefore will e-cigs alone see me through those future situations that, in the past, kept me returning to stinkies?

I just don't know, but as this topic is aimed at the long time vapors, perhaps they have faced these crisis points that at one time would have had them reaching for a fag, but now find they cope with just a vape or three.

I have come through several sore situations in the last couple of months, all with vaping only and not thought of lifting a fag, but there is always that nagging doubt at the back of my mind that wonders if e-cigs are the final solution.

[Clutter]

Lobey, e-cigs were designed to be a less toxic nicotine delivery system than smoking tobacco. If you quit smoking for more than a couple of months its very unlikely that a nicotine craving makes you turn to ciggies in times of stress.

I'm not fussed about the nic, its the physical hand-to-mouth, draw, inhale & exhale that I enjoy & missed during 6 years non-smoking. Perhaps its that physical comfort, which NRT can't supply, you need to help you cope with your stress

[Karma]

I've been vaping nearly 8 months now. In the past few months i've had a lot of very stressful stuff going on in my life. At one point I really did get an urge to have a ciggie, but I vaped through it!

I'm pretty certain, had I been on NRT I would most definitely be back on the ciggies now!

[pinkvaper]

My own little personal experience has been that at the begiining of vaping in the first month I didn't stop smoking altogether, I gradually had less cigs per day and they tasted more vile each time, eventally I was offered one at a party and I simply could not smoke it. Put it out and that was(almost) the last one....that was in November 2009. January 2010 in the snow I remember a car accident on new years day and I was terribly shaken - another person in car with me had cigarettes....I took one and it was awful...I smoked it but I had no desire to have another, the hold they hjad over me was gone.

I promised myself after that I would never pressure myself about the idea that I might start again.....becuase really....if I had another it wouldn't be the end of the world....as long as I have my ecigarette if I did fall off the wagon as it were I could get right back on again with a tastier and healthier alternative. Lots of vapers smoke aswell and switch between the two.....in an interview I did with Carl Phillips (tobacco harm reduction.org) recently he has concluded that you could vape for the rest of your life and do less damage than one month smoking (on average) but instead of thinking that every cigarette is killing you think about the ones you are not having....a couple here and there are bad but the stress of giving up and possibly ditching ecigs altogether is worse.

For me vaping has changed the habit significantly enough that in a crisis now I may take out the 24mg (I use 12 day to day) and vape that for a bit but theres no ties to certain times for a smoke like waiting for a bus, after dinner, before breakfast anymore....I vape anytime I want to so theres no one thing ecigs are associated with - except for watching a movie in bed....love to vape in bed as I could never smoke in bed!

[Globalbloke (Tim)]

It's an interesting question you pose - I started with a Ciggalike kit which I was satisfied with but after a while needed more so upgraded and upgraded until I found what I am totally happy with. So I think it really depends at what point you and your brain decide they are happy with the combination of equipment and juices. There are some on here after 6 months who are still trying loads of juices to find their "one" and there are some on day 2 that find their juice, stick to it and are happy.

I personally think it's all down to what is right for the individual, some have deep pockets and buy every mod out there so they have an epic choice, I dare say there are others that are using just the Riva style equipment and will stick with those for years to come. Me, I have bought a modest amount of equipment and have found my setup and found my favourite juice(s) and I'm quite happy sitting here picking up my ecig when needs be and vape when I like and I'm happy with this

[tobylerone]

I took it up to stop me smoking as I'd tried everything to quit but always came back to it. I have always felt that it's not about the nicotine with me but the actual act of smoking so vaping is the only way I could stop.

[Phoenix .]

Pinkvaper, I agree with what you are saying about vaping taking the ties to 'time for a smoke' factor out of the equation.

The sheer fact that you can vap anywhere any time has taken the urgency away.
I don't take my vaping kit out with me as i don't feel the need when I am busy shopping or visiting, first thing in the morning and last thing at night are my only 'need to vape times, the rest is just hand to mouth association.

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[tobylerone]

When I see everyone else's money saved signatures on their posts I really do wish I had smoked cigs rather than rollies and more of them! My spend in two weeks of vaping far outweighs my save, but I know it'll overtake soon enough