Help! Juice is separating!

[deesigner]

I was actually on the phone to CCW as I was placing my order. I went through each item and they checked that there was no oil present in them, the Tutti fruiti was one of them! Humph! I really like it too apart from the separation.

Rather than wasting my full 30 ml I've let it settle and sucked all the darker top layer off with a pipette, hopefully I can add some other fruit flavour and still make use of it

[Perpetua]

I'd be inclined to bin myself Dee . . . any trace of oil in your mix, isn't good for inhalation purposes.

[oxo]

I took delivery of my classiKool concentrates today, Ive found and joined the forum after after placing my order and was a bit cheesed off after reading about the tutifruti.
Ive a 50ml bottle at £7 looking quite the same as the pic in the OP, its got about 5cm of amberish liquid flouting above 1cm of yellowish green.
I can shake the bottle and it separates within 30secs.
I tried seeing if the amber bit would mix with some PG, it didnt but it managed to cease up my 1ml syringe.


Ive moved on to check out the lovely lime, its tasting good but is wicking to slow, I mean real slow.
It goes a pasty looking transparent after being mixed with the PG 60%  VG 30% mix and its viscosity dont appear at all on the thick side, Shall have to try some vodka see if it gets it moving up the wick.

Ive blue berry and peach mixed with some pg vg just to see if they to change there appearance to what they was in the bottle, but they are looking fine and shall be trying them out later,

[Roger]

So both CCW and Klassikool Tutifruti concentrates separate? I wonder if they are made by the same manufacturer. Oxo, I presume from your figures you have put 10% flavour?. How long have you steeped it for?

[oxo]

Mar 6, 2013 16:37:15 GMT Roger said:

So both CCW and Klassikool Tutifruti concentrates separate? I wonder if they are made by the same manufacturer. Oxo, I presume from your figures you have put 10% flavour?. How long have you steeped it for?

I havent attempted a mix with the tutifruity, I have only putt some of the upper concentrate in with some PG vg mix to see if it would dilute.
Im not going to bother trying to get at the stuff at the bottom of the concentrate bottle I suspect it will dilute but it only represnts less than 20% of the concentrate and looks really cloudy.

Ill try and get the web cam to grab a pic.

[Roger]

Mar 6, 2013 17:19:24 GMT oxo said:

Mar 6, 2013 16:37:15 GMT Roger said:

So both CCW and Klassikool Tutifruti concentrates separate? I wonder if they are made by the same manufacturer. Oxo, I presume from your figures you have put 10% flavour?. How long have you steeped it for?

I havent attempted a mix with the tutifruity, I have only putt some of the upper concentrate in with some PG vg mix to see if it would dilute.
Im not going to bother trying to get at the stuff at the bottom of the concentrate bottle I suspect it will dilute but it only represnts less than 20% of the concentrate and looks really cloudy.

Ill try and get the web cam to grab a pic.

Doesn't sound good does it? Must be some sort of oil in there by the sound of it.

[oxo]

Mar 6, 2013 17:28:42 GMT Roger said:

Mar 6, 2013 17:19:24 GMT oxo said:

I havent attempted a mix with the tutifruity, I have only putt some of the upper concentrate in with some PG vg mix to see if it would dilute.
Im not going to bother trying to get at the stuff at the bottom of the concentrate bottle I suspect it will dilute but it only represnts less than 20% of the concentrate and looks really cloudy.

Ill try and get the web cam to grab a pic.

Doesn't sound good does it? Must be some sort of oil in there by the sound of it.

It dont move like oil could be some ultra thin oil I suppose, If there a bin it thread? Im going to buy more flavours over time and what not to buy is the best advise for new mixes as myself.

[Roger]

Perhaps what too buy would be better. Anyway take some time and have a really, really good read of the 'Mixology' section. There is a shed load of great info in there, but any questions, just ask away, someone will probably know the answer. There are a lot of experienced mixers on here (including some commercial ones)

[oxo]

Mar 6, 2013 17:43:09 GMT Roger said:

Perhaps what too buy would be better. Anyway take some time and have a really, really good read of the 'Mixology' section. There is a shed load of great info in there, but any questions, just ask away, someone will probably know the answer. There are a lot of experienced mixers on here (including some commercial ones)

Im not put off, Ive bought 6 concentrates 1 duffer and 1 problematic (lime) but Im sure it can be tweaked its been steeping for 3hours now and has become a little clearer, The amount I put in the tank started to wick and clear as it got warmed up.
Us new starters have no time for steeping that can come later, Ill test the other juice tonight after its stood for a bit

[Roger]

When I started mixing, I made sure I had enough juice in to last while my mixes steeped and were tweaked. It's amazing how much mixes change over a few days, it is worth the wait.

[Frogster (The Alchemist)]

We have to remember we are using concentrated flavourings that have been designed for another purpose (Food).

It may not be oil you see.... depending on what base they used in manufacure, it could be Ethanol, etc... Other liquids will sometimes look to seperate (or not mix well).

They are still fine and safe to be used in foods, but there is no answer available yet as to their suitability when using them for vaping....

They may well be 100% safe, just look a bit messy..... or they may not! Who knows? untill they have been researched and reported on.... You decide if you take the chance.

[Roger]

Good points there Frogster. Must admit I tend to stick to tried and trusted, or new flavours from reputable flavour houses.

[Jockyspants]

Hi OXO, I would have thought any oil in the liquid would rise to the top. Is the pic you posted the concentrate only or a mix?

[oxo]

Mar 6, 2013 23:46:14 GMT Jockyspants said:

Hi OXO, I would have thought any oil in the liquid would rise to the top. Is the pic you posted the concentrate only or a mix?

Its concentrate, I bought 6 flavours, that was the only one with colour, all the others are totally transparent, and Ill be wary of buying any other coloured concentrate. Ive dubbed my finger at it I couldnt say for sure its oil, it tastes of citrus fruit but nothing to strong and thats undilute. Should pour it down the sink but I think ill stick a syringe down and take a sample of the bottom maybe that packs a punch.


Just stuck a pipet down and got a sample it made my tongue go warm with a burst of  over powering flavour then nothing like anaesthetic,

[Jockyspants]

I looks like pulp from a compressed fruit at the bottom....never seen this before but not been vaping that long. As Frogster says, these are made for food so you may be out of luck with this one. I stick with TPA, Capella and CCW as they seem to be, in the majority, the most talked about concentrates on AAEC. What does the clear part taste like? Maybe you could use that in a sample!
You don't want to be using the cloudy part as that will not go down well in any atomiser, I would think!