Riva 1100

[mybad]

Feb 21, 2013 18:49:03 GMT gracie said:

When I joined this forum I read all the posts recommending the Riva 1100. I took the advice and ordered. All that I can say is this is the best advice I could have been given. I wanted something ready to go and I got what I wanted. In the future I may or may not have a better one but for now I am happy with what I have. In fact I love it so much I ordered 2 more kits, a spare for me and one for my mum. I would not hesitate to recommend this kit to anyone starting out. And as for Jason at Vape Escape he has been brilliant and a huge help and this is what beginners need when starting out.

Gracie, Have you tried anything else ? if not how do you know it is the best advice you could have been given.

[Karma]

Feb 21, 2013 18:59:40 GMT mybad said:

I think some of the replies here are an insult some newbies, by just saying it could be hard for them to understand how to do a few click's or a simple twist and understand its actions, of which you would have to do on the riva anyway.

You're right Mybad, perhaps some of the replies here are insulting to some new users.

But, for most new users who's only other e-cig experience has been semi disposable cig-a-likes, I think the members on this forum give really good advice and guidance.

If a new user is confident and shows an interest in more advanced e-cigs, they get advice suited to them.

All e-cig users start somewhere and the most important thing is that they get advice suited to their needs.

Heck, I've even linked to cig-a-likes before for some newbies as that's what they want but they don't want to be paying over the odds for the 'branded' ones.

Nothing to stop you Mybad providing advice and links to products that you think are more suitable, that gives people choice, which is good 

[bomberharris]

mmmm im thinking a vamo and an aga-t an ideal start kit only joking

[gracie]

Mybad. I started on skycigs and it helped. then decided I wanted something better so went for the Riva. No I haven't tried anything other than these but for me it was good advice as it saved me going round in circles trying to find out what I needed. 3 months with my Riva so yes good advice it was as I am not at the moment looking to change. Your choice may be good for some and the Riva good for others, this is just my opinion saying I am really happy

[mybad]

Feb 21, 2013 19:15:44 GMT gracie said:

Mybad. I started on skycigs and it helped. then decided I wanted something better so went for the Riva. No I haven't tried anything other than these but for me it was good advice as it saved me going round in circles trying to find out what I needed. 3 months with my Riva so yes good advice it was as I am not at the moment looking to change. Your choice may be good for some and the Riva good for others, this is just my opinion saying I am really happy

And I am happy that you are happy.

[gracie]

Thank you mybad

[Ralph]

The Riva Kit from VE for me was by far the best choice Mybad.

I didn't want to be HAD and be sold FAKE or cheap gear that only lasted 5 minutes. This was really important to me.
I didn't want to make 3,4 or 5 diffrent payments to different venders i hadn't used.
And i wanted to vape asp.

Once i had the kit i was able to try 6 different flavours and have them on the go all day swapping inbetween them. We can't do this with one Nova.
With the kit i had a chance to try 2 different delivery systems and i still use Carts in a tank now. I find them bullet proof.
With the clearo i realised i liked this system too and have tried them all now over the months.

And the case which i did think was a bit naff Mybad to be honest with you is a god send.
I take 3 batterys to work with me with a couple of T3, a Nova, some carts, an adapter, tissue and some juice because i like to swap favours though the day by just picking
up a batt and sucking, not faffing about swapping tanks and i have all i need in the case.
I just grab the case in the morning and go.

So for me the Riva Kit from VE is the best for most newbies.

And i still use the batts today along with me twits and the ProVari.

Now i do use other venders and other gear but at the time of starting to vape it was a minefield on the internet for me.

[boo]

I really dislike this, what seems to me vaping snobbery, regarding the latest gadgets, gizmos and must haves. I've got an eGo T and a Riva and nearly a year later im still using them, and very happily so. I've no inclination to move on to "better" things.

To some of us, they aren't a "beginners kit", they're our regular kits and we're very very happy with them thank you very much!

[Karma]

Feb 21, 2013 19:34:38 GMT Ralph said:

And i still use the batts today along with me twits and the ProVari.

How are you getting on with you're Twits Ralph 

[davess]

Feb 21, 2013 19:34:38 GMT Ralph said:

The Riva Kit from VE for me was by far the best choice Mybad.

I didn't want to be HAD and be sold FAKE or cheap gear that only lasted 5 minutes. This was really important to me.
I didn't want to make 3,4 or 5 diffrent payments to different venders i hadn't used.
And i wanted to vape asp.

Once i had the kit i was able to try 6 different flavours and have them on the go all day swapping inbetween them. We can't do this with one Nova.
With the kit i had a chance to try 2 different delivery systems and i still use Carts in a tank now. I find them bullet proof.
With the clearo i realised i liked this system too and have tried them all now over the months.

And the case which i did think was a bit naff Mybad to be honest with you is a god send.
I take 3 batterys to work with me with a couple of T3, a Nova, some carts, an adapter, tissue and some juice because i like to swap favours though the day by just picking
up a batt and sucking, not faffing about swapping tanks and i have all i need in the case.
I just grab the case in the morning and go.

So for me the Riva Kit from VE is the best for most newbies.

And i still use the batts today along with me twits and the ProVari.

Now i do use other venders and other gear but at the time of starting to vape it was a minefield on the internet for me.

Seconded.

[mybad]

Feb 21, 2013 19:08:38 GMT Karma said:

Feb 21, 2013 18:59:40 GMT mybad said:

I think some of the replies here are an insult some newbies, by just saying it could be hard for them to understand how to do a few click's or a simple twist and understand its actions, of which you would have to do on the riva anyway.

You're right Mybad, perhaps some of the replies here are insulting to some new users.

But, for most new users who's only other e-cig experience has been semi disposable cig-a-likes, I think the members on this forum give really good advice and guidance.

If a new user is confident and shows an interest in more advanced e-cigs, they get advice suited to them.

All e-cig users start somewhere and the most important thing is that they get advice suited to their needs.

Heck, I've even linked to cig-a-likes before for some newbies as that's what they want but they don't want to be paying over the odds for the 'branded' ones.

Nothing to stop you Mybad providing advice and links to products that you think are more suitable, that gives people choice, which is good 

Hi Kama, the whole point of my Op was to state that better can be had for the same price, and as simple to use as the riva, after all how hard is it to do five clicks on a vv bat or a simple twist for what could be a better experience on the same size equipment, I wasn't trying to say a newbie should jump in on a vv/vw with a kayfun or any rewicking rebuildable atty, just better options for the same money.

[Karma]

Fair comment Mybad, so please do recommend things that you think suitable to new users! It is a very busy forum now and member's input is invaluable

[kibbster]

Feb 21, 2013 18:59:40 GMT mybad said:

I think some of the replies here are an insult some newbies, by just saying it could be hard for them to understand how to do a few click's or a simple twist and understand its actions, of which you would have to do on the riva anyway.

I doubt anyone wants to insult newbies here, the general new starter threads are almost identical.
"I have been using/ tried *insert cig-alike here* and I gave up tobacco for the first time in yonks been pointed here and wondered what you'd recommend for a starter that wants something the same size as the cig-alike I've been using. Not sure I'm ready for big batteries yet."

Even the mention of a Riva which is quite a small battery gives newcomers pause.
But it's a great balance between practicality and cost as well as not being any more complex then press a button and inhale.
If you suggest a VV Twist with mini Nova that's a good inch longer than a Riva with a clearo and two to three inches longer than a Riva with a std length carto that's possibly not what they asked for.
There's also the point that when they wonder why their juice tastes like shit at 4.8v on a twist and think vaping is nasty taste and don't come back without asking anyone else for advice.
They may think because it goes up to 4.8 it must work with what was recommended to go with it headwise, then you've got to explain resistances and voltages and all they wanted was something to replace a cig-alike.
If someone is ready to throw themselves into vaping, wants to give VV a go and cares about ohms then of course they should be advised to give a twist and or LR and maybe even DC.

But most don't... 
If we were suggesting they buy cheap rubbish they'd have to throw away in a week then it would also be bad advice.
The fact that Riva's are never a waste of money even if they move onto a Twist or even Vamo, LT, Evic or Vari a month later those Riva's they bought will always be there as backups and will work as well as vv in their own way for a long time to come.
I know someone 4 or 5 months on that has an Ego style who's more than happy with it, even now.
He like most new starters have got no urge to start experimenting or spending money on mods and possibly never will.

I'm not saying advising against VV twist is a good thing, if the person is interested in VV it's an excellent and cheap introduction.
But people have to run before they walk and smokers generally didn't start on roll their own the first day they smoked they worked up to it, vaping is no different, it takes some people time to get comfy with such an alien technology.
Not to mention it's a massive change for most people who have been used to holding a cig for years to suggest they get something bigger that looks nothing like a cig is pushing the levels of people's comfort zone anyway without clouding things with VV and ohms.



 

[kibbster]

Feb 21, 2013 19:42:11 GMT mybad said:

Feb 21, 2013 19:08:38 GMT Karma said:

You're right Mybad, perhaps some of the replies here are insulting to some new users.

But, for most new users who's only other e-cig experience has been semi disposable cig-a-likes, I think the members on this forum give really good advice and guidance.

If a new user is confident and shows an interest in more advanced e-cigs, they get advice suited to them.

All e-cig users start somewhere and the most important thing is that they get advice suited to their needs.

Heck, I've even linked to cig-a-likes before for some newbies as that's what they want but they don't want to be paying over the odds for the 'branded' ones.

Nothing to stop you Mybad providing advice and links to products that you think are more suitable, that gives people choice, which is good 

Hi Kama, the whole point of my Op was to state that better can be had for the same price, and as simple to use as the riva, after all how hard is it to do five clicks on a vv bat or a simple twist for what could be a better experience on the same size equipment, I wasn't trying to say a newbie should jump in on a vv/vw with a kayfun or any rewicking rebuildable atty, just better options for the same money.

My point is though it might be a worse experience for someone who doesn't know anything about VV.

I let my mother-in-law try my LT at 3.8 volts on a SR Nova head and she almost threw it across the room like it was a snake in her hands that tried to bite her.
to me it was really mild but I had been vaping for a month, it put her off for life.

Now she tells people when I'm around that vaping is nasty and burns your throat

[Ralph]

How are you getting on with you're Twits Ralph

Grand thanks Karma. I have worn one out already

To be honest though, i was Twisting it up and down and burning me juice when i first got one because me Nova was not wicking properly. (and some carts)
With a few weeks under me belt it all started to fall into place and could tell when carts and tanks were starting to go dry and a dry burn was coming next.

Great battery!!

Also when i am wicking well i can turn it up for a toot or 2 and blow ya head off.

Most of the time though it is set a little bit around from 3.2 v and i just vape on that.




EDIT In another 5 months i may be able to quote on here Mesh is easie to use master than this new tech stuff!!