Drip fed the future of e cigs and vaping.

[MarkS]

Mar 4, 2013 0:40:14 GMT womble said:

I would still write to your MEP's and try to get them on our side, or at least make sure they understand what they are discussing.

Exactly.
The people who seem to have the most nihilistic views are usually the ones who use those views to hide behind the fact they are prepared to do bugger all about it. It then becomes a self fulfilling prophecy.

I'm referring to the OP by the way.

I do not trust or have any faith in MP's and MEP's myself, but I do believe a large group shouting together can be loud enough to be heard.

[Adam78]

Mar 4, 2013 0:00:50 GMT davess said:

Just a point, what is the shelf life of nic if boughgt in bulk?

I think I heard you can put nic in the freezer and keep it for years. Pretty sure it was discussed in this Vapelink episode.

VAPELINK Ep7 - The Search for Sense

[davess]

Got this reply from one of my MEPs.


Thank you for your message, below is an extract from a recent Press release made by Paul Nuttall MEP, on the topic of e-cigs.

"UKIP have become the first political party, with representatives in the EU, to declare that they are firmly opposed to the electronic cigarette regulation proposed in the Tobacco Products Directive, and the TPD in general.

Paul Nuttall, the Deputy Leader of UKIP said :

I find this particularly crazy as e-cigarettes are healthier alternatives to smoking. And, as I have previously said, the European Commission will not stop here, next it will be alcohol and foods."

[monty]

Come on peeps be clear about what you say.
"I started on 24mg" I think what you mean the nicotine level of your juice was 24mg/ml not 24mg.
The EU is talking of a limit of 2mg of nicotine in a singe cigalike (I think) and a limit of 4mg/ml for ejuice.

Vaping 3ml a day of 18mg/ml eliquid works out at 52mg of nicotine per day - although not all the nicotine will be absorbed into the blood stream.

24mg/ml = 2.4%.

[oxo]

Mar 4, 2013 21:09:45 GMT monty said:

Come on peeps be clear about what you say.
"I started on 24mg" I think what you mean the nicotine level of your juice was 24mg/ml not 24mg.
The EU is talking of a limit of 2mg of nicotine in a singe cigalike (I think) and a limit of 4mg/ml for ejuice.

Vaping 3ml a day of 18mg/ml eliquid works out at 52mg of nicotine per day - although not all the nicotine will be absorbed into the blood stream.

24mg/ml = 2.4%.

guidetovaping.com/2012/06/clearstream-air-study-ecigs-and-2nd-hand-vapor/

[punisher]

when I read about you all vaping 18 and 24 mg it suprises me you must only be vaping around 1 or 2 ml a day,
as I vape around 10 ml of liquid a day working on that level of vaping I adjusted my nic lv acordingly and vape 4 mlg so at 4 mlg per mil im vaping 40mlg of nic a day around the same at 40 cigs not aconting for the absobrtion rate although I started on 24mg I soon droped when I started chain vaping

[oxo]

Mar 4, 2013 21:45:19 GMT punisher said:

when I read about you all vaping 18 and 24 mg it suprises me you must only be vaping around 1 or 2 ml a day,
as I vape around 10 ml of liquid a day working on that level of vaping I adjusted my nic lv acordingly and vape 4 mlg so at 4 mlg per mil im vaping 40mlg of nic a day around the same at 40 cigs not aconting for the absobrtion rate although I started on 24mg I soon droped when I started chain vaping

Im doing 4 / 5 ml per day at 1.1%, Ive 15ml of juice at 1.1% left, then Im stepping down to 0.8%.

The thing is I dont have a set up that will let me chain vape over 5ml.

What set up are you using that lets you vape up to 10ml ?

oxo

[punisher]

Mar 4, 2013 21:56:21 GMT oxo said:

Mar 4, 2013 21:45:19 GMT punisher said:

when I read about you all vaping 18 and 24 mg it suprises me you must only be vaping around 1 or 2 ml a day,
as I vape around 10 ml of liquid a day working on that level of vaping I adjusted my nic lv acordingly and vape 4 mlg so at 4 mlg per mil im vaping 40mlg of nic a day around the same at 40 cigs not aconting for the absobrtion rate although I started on 24mg I soon droped when I started chain vaping

Im doing 4 / 5 ml per day at 1.1%, Ive 15ml of juice at 1.1% left, then Im stepping down to 0.8%.

The thing is I dont have a set up that will let me chain vape over 5ml.

What set up are you using that lets you vape up to 10ml ?

oxo

firstly I mix my own I have 3 bats on the go 2 ego c and a lavatube tube set up for dripping with a phoenix atty and also have two vision v3 clearos set up they hold 1.6ml each they all have difrent flavors I refill them 3 or 4 times a day depending wich one I vape the most and drip loads when board maybe mlre maybe less but 10ml is a rough gues

[oxo]

Mar 4, 2013 22:13:51 GMT punisher said:

Mar 4, 2013 21:56:21 GMT oxo said:

Im doing 4 / 5 ml per day at 1.1%, Ive 15ml of juice at 1.1% left, then Im stepping down to 0.8%.

The thing is I dont have a set up that will let me chain vape over 5ml.

What set up are you using that lets you vape up to 10ml ?

oxo

firstly I mix my own I have 3 bats on the go 2 ego c and a lavatube tube set up for dripping with a phoenix atty and also have two vision v3 clearos set up they hold 1.6ml each they all have difrent flavors I refill them 3 or 4 times a day depending wich one I vape the most and drip loads when board maybe mlre maybe less but 10ml is a rough gues

Ive 3 batterys 1 charger and struggling for power. Also mixing own juice. Ive 5 of those rebuildable clearomisers with 2.8ohm coils. They do a good vape but the sweet zone drops off noticeably after half to three quarters of an hour. Im planing on getting lower resistance coils, see if that helps. Im also looking at getting some kind of VV device, Are you happy with the set up you have or have you got a chain vapours wish list planed for the future ?
I dont want to keep buying little add ons thats going to get unused in time to come, its better listening to folks experience so I can spend a little wiser.

[punisher]

think every one has a dream wish list I now make my own coils and I like 1.7 ohms on the clearo on the ego c on my driper and vv I run 1.4 coils some times at 3.2 volts some times at 5v the vv is a must and after joining hear wish I had got a vamo not lava tube
next on my list is mesh wick for the phoenix and maybe a vamo and some tybe of new atty maybe an aga t2 I have a few hundred pounds worth of gadgets laid around already ops hope the wife dont read this

[ian]

My vaping has always been up and down but i have always been a chain vaper.Some days i will vape 6-12ml of 30-36mg juice in a carto tank where as other days i will vape 3ml of 24mg.It just depends what mood i'm in and how much time i have to vape,lol.If very busy i can go half a day without vaping at all and it doesnt bother me.I mainly use a Vamo these days at 7-12W and just keep adjusting it up or down as i need to.IMO everyone who vapes should have atleast a couple of VW mods to give you the option of adjusting the power up or down as required.

[punisher]

Mar 4, 2013 22:54:05 GMT ian said:

My vaping has always been up and down but i have always been a chain vaper.Some days i will vape 6-12ml of 30-36mg juice in a carto tank where as other days i will vape 3ml of 24mg.It just depends what mood i'm in and how much time i have to vape,lol.If very busy i can go half a day without vaping at all and it doesnt bother me.I mainly use a Vamo these days at 7-12W and just keep adjusting it up or down as i need to.IMO everyone who vapes should have atleast a couple of VW mods to give you the option of adjusting the power up or down as required.

you talk about adjusting the wats ! what are the advantages over adjusting the volts the lavatube is only vv not vw

[oxo]

Mar 4, 2013 22:54:05 GMT ian said:

My vaping has always been up and down but i have always been a chain vaper.Some days i will vape 6-12ml of 30-36mg juice in a carto tank where as other days i will vape 3ml of 24mg.It just depends what mood i'm in and how much time i have to vape,lol.If very busy i can go half a day without vaping at all and it doesnt bother me.I mainly use a Vamo these days at 7-12W and just keep adjusting it up or down as i need to.IMO everyone who vapes should have atleast a couple of VW mods to give you the option of adjusting the power up or down as required.

Ive just seen a Vamo for £35. Not as expensive as I thought, Ive seen VV £100 pluss which is way out of my league. The lava tube at £56 but out of stock on a couple of sites Ive skimmed doesnt look so bad either. Ill start paying more attention to these things, and drop the notion of stepping up to a couple of ego twists.

[ian]

Nothing wrong with the Ego Twist either,just works out more expensive when it comes to replacing batteries.I like the Vamo as it takes a wide variety of inexpensive batteries.I can see the appeal of the Twist for out and about and will be ordering a couple from china before long.
Punisher..Most normal people set a VW mod to a setting they are happy with,lets say 7W for example.Once set to where you are happy with the vape,it doesn't matter if you are using a 1.5ohm atty or a 3ohm atty,the mod will just adjust itself to give you the same power.Only time i really mess with mine is if i'm having a few beers,lol.I just jump from 7W all the way up to 12W for a more intense vape.I'm having a nice cold Budweiser now and vaping a 30mg tobacco mix at 12.5W and it is hitting nice and hard.

[oxo]

Mar 4, 2013 23:40:09 GMT ian said:

Nothing wrong with the Ego Twist either,just works out more expensive when it comes to replacing batteries.I like the Vamo as it takes a wide variety of inexpensive batteries.I can see the appeal of the Twist for out and about and will be ordering a couple from china before long.
Punisher..Most normal people set a VW mod to a setting they are happy with,lets say 7W for example.Once set to where you are happy with the vape,it doesn't matter if you are using a 1.5ohm atty or a 3ohm atty,the mod will just adjust itself to give you the same power.Only time i really mess with mine is if i'm having a few beers,lol.I just jump from 7W all the way up to 12W for a more intense vape.I'm having a nice cold Budweiser now and vaping a 30mg tobacco mix at 12.5W and it is hitting nice and hard.

Joyetech have some deal going with totaly wicked as there UK supplier. I was looking round alibaba the other day and all joyetec items had a list of countries they will not deliver to UK was one of them.