Are e-cigs Evil ? - Channel 5 phone in show !

[lobeydosser]

I'm just sorry that I cut the dog walk short to get home in time to watch this.

I'm sure all 3 of us would have been better rewarded with a nice stroll through the woods on such a fine, if chilly, morning's outing.

[kibbster]

Mar 19, 2013 12:51:32 GMT JimmyJ said:

Who cares what they think?, i don't. I think the issue isn't who vapes, who doesn't and does that change who you are? the issue for me is the type of people who feel the need to debate things like this, i'd prefer to go about my business and not get wound up about other peoples thoughts on the matter.

Its too easy for people to hang about on the phone, internet, tv show and spurting out opinions, they won't say anything in real life so i just let them be and let them have the issue instead of me, i wouldn't bother getting stressed about it, might lead to a nicotine craving...

In the real world none of it really has impacted on my vaping etc, i think we need to separate peoples opinions for the sake of having one to participate in some meaningless show, to peoples reactions in the real world. All these shows do is give a spawning ground for peoples opinions that they won't really share anywhere else.

Who on the panel drinks caffeinated hot drinks? Really is no need when decaf tastes the same, are they caffeine addicts? is coffee evil, the only people who would care are those who don't drink caffeine, and only because its something they can gloat about or preach to other people. It must be a pretty boring life being so perfect.

Normally very true but at the moment with the MHRA and failing that the EU are about to pee on our BBQ, negative press is the last thing we need at the moment.
If we keep our opinions to ourselves for now then within the next couple of years we won't be vaping anymore.
Once the regulations have all been sorted we can go back to ignoring anyone's opinion

[womble]

Mar 19, 2013 13:55:11 GMT kibbster said:

Mar 19, 2013 12:51:32 GMT JimmyJ said:

Who cares what they think?, i don't. I think the issue isn't who vapes, who doesn't and does that change who you are? the issue for me is the type of people who feel the need to debate things like this, i'd prefer to go about my business and not get wound up about other peoples thoughts on the matter.

Its too easy for people to hang about on the phone, internet, tv show and spurting out opinions, they won't say anything in real life so i just let them be and let them have the issue instead of me, i wouldn't bother getting stressed about it, might lead to a nicotine craving...

In the real world none of it really has impacted on my vaping etc, i think we need to separate peoples opinions for the sake of having one to participate in some meaningless show, to peoples reactions in the real world. All these shows do is give a spawning ground for peoples opinions that they won't really share anywhere else.

Who on the panel drinks caffeinated hot drinks? Really is no need when decaf tastes the same, are they caffeine addicts? is coffee evil, the only people who would care are those who don't drink caffeine, and only because its something they can gloat about or preach to other people. It must be a pretty boring life being so perfect.

Normally very true but at the moment with the MHRA and failing that the EU are about to pee on our BBQ, negative press is the last thing we need at the moment.
If we keep our opinions to ourselves for now then within the next couple of years we won't be vaping anymore.
Once the regulations have all been sorted we can go back to ignoring anyone's opinion

Plus, it might be alright for us. But what about smokers who are looking into it and wondering whether to try them.

[Deleted]

It could well be alright for us. We have warning. We can cut out nic down to a miniscule and get all our equipment in before any big bans...

But for those smokers still puffing themselves to death or being ripped off by non working NRT and pressurized by the doc/chemist/whatever that they must quit the nic it's different

[MarkS]

Mar 19, 2013 12:51:32 GMT JimmyJ said:

Who cares what they think?, i don't. I think the issue isn't who vapes, who doesn't and does that change who you are? the issue for me is the type of people who feel the need to debate things like this, i'd prefer to go about my business and not get wound up about other peoples thoughts on the matter.

Its too easy for people to hang about on the phone, internet, tv show and spurting out opinions, they won't say anything in real life so i just let them be and let them have the issue instead of me, i wouldn't bother getting stressed about it, might lead to a nicotine craving...

In the real world none of it really has impacted on my vaping etc, i think we need to separate peoples opinions for the sake of having one to participate in some meaningless show, to peoples reactions in the real world. All these shows do is give a spawning ground for peoples opinions that they won't really share anywhere else.

Who on the panel drinks caffeinated hot drinks? Really is no need when decaf tastes the same, are they caffeine addicts? is coffee evil, the only people who would care are those who don't drink caffeine, and only because its something they can gloat about or preach to other people. It must be a pretty boring life being so perfect.

That post is a bit of a contradiction to be fair because it seems you care what people think about what people think? Otherwise you wouldn't post it because well..... you wouldn't care.

All well and good, but if it does start to impact on your vaping it will then be to late.

All people are trying to do is get OUR point of view out there for balance. No need to knock it.

[dickyg]

A depressingly short piece on it. If it hadn't been for Lee and Anne Diamond I fear it would have been a completely negative piece, not so much a debate rather than a shouting competition where Wright makes sure his microphone is turned up the loudest. Matt Wright was so condescending it was untrue, almost like saying you're still addicted so you might as well smoke. Still not as bad as the one show, so onwards and upwards.

[Deleted]

Whatever comes of these debates we will never stop Whitehall or the EU doing what they want, i fear a fire-cell for Vaping over the next couple of years due to ignorance by the general public and sheer peer pressure from programmes like this and the one that was on the beeb recently. Sorry

[ausfost]

oh dear, i was so hopeful that it would a much fairer representation of vaping than it turned out to be, guess we will just have to keep plugging away......

[andym]

A lot of Ignorance there!