Paypal Gift

[Greigster]

Mar 24, 2013 18:53:03 GMT Skwoddy said:

Mar 24, 2013 18:42:20 GMT Greigster said:

The benefit of Paypal Gift gives you the option which allows the payer can pay the price asked and the payee receives the price asked and Paypal makes not a bean

Turn the Ops post around and it ends up that someone could buy an item, receive it and enter a Papal dispute to have their money refunded.

I always pay by Paypal Gift when requested and I don't have a problem with that.
Why would you want to fix something when it is not broken, you are better off putting your time to better use like Vaping

The buyer pays 4% im afraid in a gift transaction, the seller receives the amount asked.

Sorry Skwoddy but you are wrong.

The buyer only pays 4% if using a credit card. If you use your linked bank account as I always do then the Paypal Gift is free of all fees to both the buyer and the seller, and a free transaction for moving funds where the buyer pays what he is being asked for and the seller gets the price he is asking for, means you do not have to pay Paypal anything, which in my book is a bonus

Here it is from the Papal UK site:-


Free to transfer
There’s no fee to send money to friends and family in the UK when you use your linked bank account or the money in your PayPal account. When you use a debit or credit card, there is a flat fee of 3.4% + 20p per transaction. You can also send money internationally for a small fee that varies depending on where you are sending the money.

More about fees

[Balllsy]

I think in general most people pay Paypal via their debit or credit card. Unless you sell alot and have a reasonable Paypal balance or use direct bank payment then it would be free.

I agree with OP PPG should not be used just to cover the rare occurrence that a seller might not be as helpful or understanding as most, should the deal go awry the buyer is not covered.

[Greigster]

This way of paying by Paypal is no different to Bank transfer, which I have also used and does not attract fees. As has been said earlier, it is the buyers choice when they purchase, whether they do or do not go ahead if Paypal Gift if requested.

[Chrissie]

It is indeed the buyers choice.

Rule #4 does point out the pitfalls of using PPG -

Buyers, please be aware that if you pay via Paypal gift, you have no buyer protection at all. If the seller doesn’t send the item, Paypal will not reimburse you if you have paid via the gift option.

[Greigster]

Has there been an issue of deals going bad on here? I have only ever seen one problem in my short time here and that was very quickly and satisfactorily dealt with by the Mods on here along with the feedback system.

[Chrissie]

You are right Greigster, there has only ever been one issue that was dealt with

[robby]

Maybe best just to leave it to the sellers, if they want to go PP gift, then no-one is under any obligation to buy, in the same way that if they dont want to use PP gift people may or may not want to pay the extra. Personal choice is the best way IMHO

[Balllsy]

It's an extremely rare occurrence but always a possibility none the less. I am often worried when new mod makers come on forums and start taking pre-orders. Not for myself as I rarely pre-order anything but for the others that do. And not only new mod makers, there's always the possibility of veterans doing a "Big scam" by playing "The long game" Sums of money could run into 10s of thousands and if all paid by gift would be nigh on impossible to recover.

[Super-Shiny]

I trust paypal gift just like i trust all the members here

[Karma]

Mar 24, 2013 21:26:48 GMT Balllsy said:

It's an extremely rare occurrence but always a possibility none the less. I am often worried when new mod makers come on forums and start taking pre-orders. Not for myself as I rarely pre-order anything but for the others that do. And not only new mod makers, there's always the possibility of veterans doing a "Big scam" by playing "The long game" Sums of money could run into 10s of thousands and if all paid by gift would be nigh on impossible to recover.

Even if you didn't pay by 'gift', pre ordering something that you were not going to get for months would take you beyond the protection time offered by PayPal.

[robby]

Mar 24, 2013 21:26:48 GMT Balllsy said:

It's an extremely rare occurrence but always a possibility none the less. I am often worried when new mod makers come on forums and start taking pre-orders. Not for myself as I rarely pre-order anything but for the others that do. And not only new mod makers, there's always the possibility of veterans doing a "Big scam" by playing "The long game" Sums of money could run into 10s of thousands and if all paid by gift would be nigh on impossible to recover.

Personally I wouldnt buy in the first case scenario whether they were PP gift or not. If they are veterans selling then you have to trust your judgement of character but I wouldnt go into any massive buy like that because of the time involved from start to finish.

[Balllsy]

I remember years back on a different type of forum a veteran member who I knew well sold more than 50 PS2s which were non existent, when they were 1st released and no one could buy them any where for love nor money. so people were more than happy to send him their hard earned cash as he was highly trusted. A very dirty trick indeed

[Greigster]

Mar 24, 2013 21:20:11 GMT Chrissie said:

You are right Greigster, there has only ever been one issue that was dealt with

Thanks for that Chrissie, that is reassuring to know.

I will carry on paying by Paypal Gift when asked for along with requesting Paypal Gift because it suits me.

I dont like the thought of giving Paypal a single penny more than I have to and I dont like the idea of people needing to inflate the prices they charge to cover fees when not using Paypal Gift.

My choice

[Greigster]

Mar 24, 2013 21:26:48 GMT Balllsy said:

It's an extremely rare occurrence but always a possibility none the less. I am often worried when new mod makers come on forums and start taking pre-orders. Not for myself as I rarely pre-order anything but for the others that do. And not only new mod makers, there's always the possibility of veterans doing a "Big scam" by playing "The long game" Sums of money could run into 10s of thousands and if all paid by gift would be nigh on impossible to recover.

Paying by ordinary Paypal also has problems for both buyers and sellers, just Google Paypal scams

So any extremely rare but possible occurrence cannot be covered by any form of 100% protection, cos there isn't one

[OneDay]

Mar 24, 2013 21:33:25 GMT Greigster said:

Mar 24, 2013 21:20:11 GMT Chrissie said:

You are right Greigster, there has only ever been one issue that was dealt with

Thanks for that Chrissie, that is reassuring to know.

I will carry on paying by Paypal Gift when asked for along with requesting Paypal Gift because it suits me.

I dont like the thought of giving Paypal a single penny more than I have to and I dont like the idea of people needing to inflate the prices they charge to cover fees when not using Paypal Gift.

My choice

Ditto that