Making a Coffee Concentrate any info?

[MarkS]

I would like to have a go at making my own coffee flavouring concentrate.

Would I more or less follow the same method as you would when steeping your own tobacco concentrates as in Frogsters guide?

Also in Frogsters guide to making a Tobacco concentrate, he mainly uses VG, is there a reason for this or could you use mainly PG and get the same results?

[Perpetua]

Someone did just that Mark, with quite good results if I remember ( Starbucks coffee? ) . . . just did a quick search but can't find it immediately.

I'll have a further study of the old threads, although someone else with a better memory may find it quicker! Oneday is normally ace at thread detective work.

[Perpetua]

Found it! Costa Coffee it was . . . .



allaboute-cigarettes.proboards.com/thread/16543/mixing-experiment-costa-coffee

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I recall that thread and can't find it ...

PG should still work ... www.vapemeup.com/2011/11/diy-e-liquids-from-natural-extractions.html

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Apr 2, 2013 14:20:22 GMT Perpetua said:

Found it! Costa Coffee it was . . . .



allaboute-cigarettes.proboards.com/thread/16543/mixing-experiment-costa-coffee

haha ! that was a funny thread

[MarkS]

Apr 2, 2013 14:15:03 GMT Perpetua said:

Someone did just that Mark, with quite good results if I remember ( Starbucks coffee? ) . . . just did a quick search but can't find it immediately.

I'll have a further study of the old threads, although someone else with a better memory may find it quicker! Oneday is normally ace at thread detective work.

Thank you Perpetua. I did do a search myself but couldn't see it.

Will have a good read of that. I have some high quality coffee beans and love my coffee, so thought it would be something I'd like to have a go at.

Apr 2, 2013 14:20:36 GMT @ashmal said:

I recall that thread and can't find it ...

PG should still work ... www.vapemeup.com/2011/11/diy-e-liquids-from-natural-extractions.html

Cheers Ash, that looks to be a bit of a bible for extractions right there.

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Apr 2, 2013 14:28:36 GMT MarkS said:

Apr 2, 2013 14:15:03 GMT Perpetua said:

Someone did just that Mark, with quite good results if I remember ( Starbucks coffee? ) . . . just did a quick search but can't find it immediately.

I'll have a further study of the old threads, although someone else with a better memory may find it quicker! Oneday is normally ace at thread detective work.

Thank you Perpetua. I did do a search myself but couldn't see it.

Will have a good read of that. I have some high quality coffee beans and love my coffee, so thought it would be something I'd like to have a go at.

Apr 2, 2013 14:20:36 GMT @ashmal said:

I recall that thread and can't find it ...

PG should still work ... www.vapemeup.com/2011/11/diy-e-liquids-from-natural-extractions.html

Cheers Ash, that looks to be a bit of a bible for extractions right there.

I did some baccy leave's the other day and the way I did it was to use a steeping bag from leisureliquids ...

www.leisureliquids.com/steepingbag.html

Filled then popped into a small pot, filled with VG then tied the bags

Did the water bath steps then when I strained them, I wrapped the bag in a square of muslin, then squeezed into a coffee filter as suggested. The steeping bag, muslin and the coffee filter worked a treat - 3 layers of filtering. 1 squeeze session did the trick and the concentrate was pretty clear - no need to re-filter.

Leaves are bigger than coffee granules but should still work

[MarkS]

Apr 2, 2013 14:33:27 GMT @ashmal said:

I did some baccy leave's the other day and the way I did it was to use a steeping bag from leisureliquids ...

www.leisureliquids.com/steepingbag.html

Filled then popped into a small pot, filled with VG then tied the bags

Did the water bath steps then when I strained them, I wrapped the bag in a square of muslin, then squeezed into a coffee filter as suggested. The steeping bag, muslin and the coffee filter worked a treat - 3 layers of filtering. 1 squeeze session did the trick and the concentrate was pretty clear - no need to re-filter.

Leaves are bigger than coffee granules but should still work

Thanks for the tips Ash, most of all the water bath steeps. My Microwave decided to stop working over the weekend, so was wondering about an alternative to the microwave method explained in the Costa Coffee thread.

I will be using fresh beans and grinding them up myself, so I won't grind them too fine.

Great info.

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i dont trust microwaves and plastic bottles

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wonder if this process would work with oreos ?

[MarkS]

Apr 2, 2013 14:53:23 GMT @ashmal said:

wonder if this process would work with oreos ?

If you had posted that yesterday, I'd have thought you were joking. Knowing of some of your other extraction attempts (Bogey Juice!!), today I'm not so sure you are.

In the vapemeup link, the cinnamon extraction is interesting. Would you know if that could be a tank cracker?

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Apr 2, 2013 14:59:39 GMT MarkS said:

Apr 2, 2013 14:53:23 GMT @ashmal said:

wonder if this process would work with oreos ?

If you had posted that yesterday, I'd have thought you were joking. Knowing of some of your other extraction attempts (Bogey Juice!!), today I'm not so sure you are.

In the vapemeup link, the cinnamon extraction is interesting. Would you know if that could be a tank cracker?

Possibly since it is likely to contain some essential oils
Taken from wikipedia which although describing a cinnamon essential oil, does refer to oil inherent in cinnamon bark ...

Its flavour is due to an aromatic essential oil that makes up 0.5% to 1% of its composition. This essential oil is prepared by roughly pounding the bark, macerating it in seawater, and then quickly distilling the whole. It is of a golden-yellow colour, with the characteristic odour of cinnamon and a very hot aromatic taste. The pungent taste and scent come from cinnamic aldehyde or cinnamaldehyde (about 90% of the essential oil from the bark) and, by reaction with of oxygen as it ages, it darkens in colour and forms resinous compounds. Other chemical components of the essential oil include ethyl cinnamate, eugenol (found mostly in the leaves), beta-caryophyllene, linalool, and methyl chavicol.[citation needed]

although I'm not exactly sure what causes cinnamon flavours to crack tanks (believe not all cinnamon flavours are crackers - and it might be some other additive - it's oils or triacetin)

[bryan123456]

There have been a few threads on a variety of boards where people have made coffee as normal and then slowly reduced it. The trouble (in my mind) with this methodology is that you evaporate off some of the more volatile aromatics that are serious contributors to the coffee flavour.

I have steeped (both in PG and VG) ground coffee - straight from the packet using the steeping bags available at www.leisureliquids.com . This worked fine for everything except Espresso - which is a really fine grind that permeated the fine perforations in the steeping bag. Every other blend I tried was great though. Using this method the flavours I got were good.

[bryan123456]

Apr 2, 2013 14:33:27 GMT @ashmal said:

Apr 2, 2013 14:28:36 GMT MarkS said:

Thank you Perpetua. I did do a search myself but couldn't see it.

Will have a good read of that. I have some high quality coffee beans and love my coffee, so thought it would be something I'd like to have a go at.

Cheers Ash, that looks to be a bit of a bible for extractions right there.

I did some baccy leave's the other day and the way I did it was to use a steeping bag from leisureliquids ...

www.leisureliquids.com/steepingbag.html

Filled then popped into a small pot, filled with VG then tied the bags

Did the water bath steps then when I strained them, I wrapped the bag in a square of muslin, then squeezed into a coffee filter as suggested. The steeping bag, muslin and the coffee filter worked a treat - 3 layers of filtering. 1 squeeze session did the trick and the concentrate was pretty clear - no need to re-filter.

Leaves are bigger than coffee granules but should still work

I do all my tobacco leaf steeps in the www.leisureliquids/com steeping bags. I dry the leaf between sheets of non bleached kitchen towel for a few days prior to this and crumble them up into pieces no bigger than  my little finger nail (removing any woody materials) on a piece of paper and then fold the paper and pour it into the steeping bags. I find the bags will hold up to 10gm this way and still close properly. depending on variety 10 - 20 gm will net me 300ml of steep. I lightly mist the leaf with vodka immediately before I close the bag (acts a s a surfacant) . If I am steeping in VG I gently warm this in a microwave before the steep starts.

Using this method I have not needed to filter at all with tobaccos and I use tall 1 litre Sistema pots with strainer baskets - tie the draw string of the bag to this and cut it off and then oik the basket out and let it drain when I am finished. It's clean, efficient and easy.

One thing to note with the steeping bags is that the draw string can a capillary effect in the wrong conditions - so if you have this trailing out of a container - even from a clip lid you could be welcomed by a puddle of steep - hence I now always cut off the excess.

[Roger]

So that's why the bed is wet in the mornings. Capillary effect from the drawstrings in my jim jams.