Headaches and restless

[ian]

I know my problems are vaping related and im only 28 so its not an age thing.I am an allergic person and so is my dad.Its strange that we both have exactly the same symptons and we both vape heavily.Ive never had these problems in my life before and neither has my dad.I agree with Tyne,i know my own body and know 100% that this is vaping related.However as i have said i will not go back to the cancer sticks as i would sooner itch than die of lung cancer.I have had many long conversations with my dad and we both agree that its down to how much nic is going into your body as we vape alot more than we ever smoked like most of us.Griz has also got a valid point that it could be down to flavourings though since ive dropped down to 26mg my symptons seem to be getting slightly better.I couldnt care less what anyone else says tbh,i just have the honesty to admit that this is not 100% safe and it does do certain people some damage.I am in no way slateing vaping as i love it, but until alot more testing and research is done i maintain that its not as safe as some people are making out and that it does cause some damage to us.It takes bollocks to admit you are having problems and i wont be gunned down by ANYONE on this subject as i know i am having problems directly caused by vaping.

[collie2011]

Anything you put into your body that isn't supposed to be there will cause some problems. Even paracetamol taken over a long period of time can cause headaches and worse pain than you were trying to stop.

I agree with you Ian that not enough testing has been done to know if there are/aren't side affects to vaping but I honestly think the side affects can't be worse than they are for tobacco.

As you have said, you are an allergic person and maybe some people are more sensitive to the ingredients than others the same as some people are allergic to peanuts and some aren't.

[ian]

I agree 100% Collie.I do realise its much safer than smoking as we all know we feel 100% better since the switch.I agree that anything inhaled into the lungs will have some damage eventually.Me and my dad were fine for 5-6 months and then these symptons have just started out of the blue for no apparent reason with both of us.Coinsidence?i think not

[buckowski]

Interesting thread…

I started vaping January 2010, no problems at all for the first year…felt great.
Had minor problems in December2010 , nothing severe, but it got me thinking.
I tried a few things on the juice side, different PG, VG etc, no change, just had intermittent lethargy, bad headaches and short of breath occasionally.

Couple of months later, I tried going without LR atties, as I felt they were giving me headaches, and I had read a thread on UKV about potential acrolein using LR’s… when you’re health is not right, you’ll hang on to anything lol.

So, went onto clearos, no problems for the first month, then tight chests, breathlessness, burning tongue, again not severe, and only occasionally, but it was a worry all the same.

Chucked clearos, went onto tanks. Again, ok for first couple of weeks, then developed a really crap stinging, burning tongue. This would last for full days at a time, then disappear, then come back.

Now onto Dual coil cartos, no problems in the past 2 weeks…

I’ve been to docs about some of symptoms, had a few tests, I’m as healthy as a 43 year old bloke could be. That’s good then.

But I know for a fact that if I did not vape, none of the above symptoms would have occurred. As someone said, ‘you know your own body’.

I love vaping, I’m more addicted to it than I was to cigarettes, so I’ll soldier on till I can find that perfect place that was the 1st 12 months of vaping.

But if a happy medium can’t be found, I may have to attempt to pack in…I really hope it doesn’t come to that.

Now, where’s that Don I ordered lol.

[tynesider]

I'm glad so many people are being honest about their symptoms. I'm not slagging off vaping, its great to be off the cigs and actaully inhale something you like the taste of. But, I don't think its the answer in the long run and after some more research then maybe someone will come up with what can be done to make it better.
I know its not the high nic content with me because I'm not a high nic vaper, but it could be down to how much I vape. Buckowski has the right idea about checking all the attys etc, I like the ego t tanks but I do get a burnt tongue every now and then, then I can't taste the flavours like I used to.
Anyway lets hope someone comes up with a solution to some of our problems, I don't want to give up vaping just yet.

[ian]

Interesting Bucko.I agree that my problems also didnt start straight away,i was fine for around 6 months.Ive just been putting up with it for the last 6 months if im honest with no improvement whatsoever.Ive noticed its at its worst when vaping 36mg heavily, so have managed to get back down to 26mg for now.I am starting to cut rite down now and reckon i will have to also consider wrapping up before long I enjoy it to much to give up though and hope it doesnt come to it.Atleast this will be a million times easier to kick than the fags though.

[Scylla]

Jun 7, 2011 11:17:14 GMT ian said:

I am an allergic person and so is my dad.Its strange that we both have exactly the same symptoms

Not a bit strange, Ian - you both have a lot of the same genes so you're more likely to have similar sensitivities.

i wont be gunned down by ANYONE on this subject as i know i am having problems directly caused by vaping.

No-one here would dream of "gunning you down" (((Ian))) - you are reporting what you are experiencing and it's very valid indeed, you've only to look at the responses in this thread.

As has been said, we can react to any foreign substance introduced into our bodies. Vaping is a miraculous aid to getting off the weed, so many of us do defend it when we see ignorant protests such as "Eeeek! it's antifreeze" etc, but no-one I know says it's 100% safe for everyone.

However, some people may die from eating something that's merely been in contact with a peanut, they may become very ill from eating strawberries or shellfish - it's all to do with our "constitutions".

Nic levels - when I started out the highest available was 16-18%. That level got me off chain-smoking unfiltered Golden Virginia, but it may have been a bit tougher for me than for those who go straight onto 24% and 36% nowadays. I've very occasionally vaped 24% but never 36%, I wouldn't.

If anyone buys a GD-PT, this is the hub that many of us use, it has a 3-amp power adapter, that's what gives you the 5v vape. I had to be "guided" by our Chrissie not to use a USB/3-pin adapter, which is just OK for charging, not for vaping.

cgi.ebay.co.uk/7-Port-USB-2-0-HUB-External-UK-AC-3A-Power-Adapter-PSU-/280522733324?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item415075370c

The combined cable length gives you quite a bit of walk-around leeway, more than 6ft, can't remember exactly.

PS - Hanow is very much a lady! She told us that "Hanow" is Cornish for "name"


scylla

[Hanow]

I have also noted an increase in chestiness when using LRs.

I too agree with you Ian - we all do know our bodies. I certainly know that vaping isn't trouble free. It is interesting however that most of us are saying that all started out well when we began vaping, no problems etc., with problems becoming apparent later.

Ian, I think you - being much younger - can possibly make clearer assumptions when something isn't quite right. When you get on a bit - other problems get in the way to rather fog the issue a bit. Alongside the athsma, I am also suffering from hay-fever - which I have never suffered from before. So also wondering if that is vaping related, age related - or not?

I think it is good that we share our 'side-effects' - at least it may help us all to pin down what may (or may not) be responsible. Please don't anyone tell me that it could possibly be caramel or coffee flavourings though!

[roachieuk (aka eciggery2011)]

Ive only ever come up with one problem so far and thats with James caramel he supplies with the RY4.It gives such a cough when im vapeing it but apart from that im fine tbh.Hmm i was reading ians problem earlier with a itchy scalp.I have terrible scalp but i now use coltar soap wash your hair then leave it in for a while then wash out it has done wonders for me.

www.chemistdirect.co.uk/wrights-coal-tar-soap_1_10932.html

Give it a try mate might help and anyone else with scalp probs it has done wonders for me got rid of my flaky scalp.I use it once a week now.

[ian]

Cheers Roachie,i have used capasol which contains coaltar and its made my scalp worse I switched to some anti fungal stuff from the doctor and it did shift for a while, but it has now come back again with avengance.I used to be fine with VG but developed throat and chest problems after a few months Switched to PG and that cleared up but after a few months this itching and scalp problem started,i cant win.Oh well,i will carry on and have a word with my GP about it all.I know one thing for certain,i love my vaping and dont want to have to stop.
Me and my dad speak alot about this and we have identical problems which we have never ever had before,neither of us have ever had bad skin,chronic itching or scalp problems so there is definately an ingredient we are both allergic to.I wander why it didnt start at the beginning and took months before it started ??? Obviously our bodies are trying to fight against a component of what we are inhaleing.Also my hayfever has been horrific so far this year and seems to really attack hard when i vape Anyway,i will stop moaning now and get on with it as im not going back to cancer sticks ever again.I just wish more testing was done to find out the facts as vaping still remains in the realms of the unknown as far as allergic reactions are concerned.

[roachieuk (aka eciggery2011)]

Oh sorry to hear of your problems mate *touch wood* i havnt run into serious problems so far only of what i said about the caramel.But thats fine as i can live without it but i think the day anything serious comes along then ill worry as i was advised to stop smoking when i was rushed to hosp a few years back with phemonia.I have a weak chest(runs in the fam).Once i get a chest cold or anyhting like that im near enuff on the hospital steps.So im hopeing i never get chest probs with vapeing or that will be the end for me i shall never vape again.

But i do feel clearer in myself now.Have you tried maybe switching mixs mate?

say 50/50 then 60/40 then 100 then repeat the process?

[ian]

Again mate i cant win.If i do a 50/50 mix its to much VG which makes my chest and throat bad BUT the itching goes away ???If i do 100% PG mix then i lose the chest and throat problems and the itching and scalp problem starts again Ive tried PEG which affects me the same as VG so i cant really win Strange thing is that ive been vaping a year and had no problems with VG or PG for the first 5-6 months.It seems ive developed these problems over time and its as if my body is now warning me its time to stop.Ive never told the doctor about vaping as i dont need the whole lecture about quitting and all that bullocks

[collie2011]

Vape escape is 70/30 might be the happy medium you need: www.vapeescape.co.uk/ry4~54

[ian]

I will have a go tonight and make some lower nic mixes of different ratios i think.I hope if i lower the nic level in my juices it will help,if not then im allergic to PG and VG which means i will just have to itch until i can stop vaping

[grizwald56]

I'm trying to work out how on earth you can be allergic to PG and VG.

PG is used in a lot of foodstuffs, also it is in asthma inhalers, it's used for oral vaccinations for babies and young children and hospitals use it in their ventilation systems to help combat MRSA.

Glycerine, or VG if you like is used in most confectionary produce.

I'm not saying that you ar'nt having a reaction to PG and VG I just think that if it is the case then that is really bad luck.

Try taking a anti-hitamine every morning for a few weeks, it just might help.

I really feel for you.