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Post by Blownupdolly on Jun 13, 2013 19:29:13 GMT
He is unlikely to throw his support behind anything he isn't controlling or making money out of it, but anything is worth a shot.
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Post by vroomfondle on Jun 13, 2013 19:32:10 GMT
The problem is the tone in which the media are reporting. A guy at my work told me he saw a news report last night which said "e-cigarettes are dangerous!" now I know they didbn't say that but that's the impression he was left with due to the alarmist and sensationalist language the media use. maybe we should provide them with equally alarmist headlines. "here is the news....... Millions sentenced to die by Government ruling on e-cigs" might grab some attention!
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Post by matt1988 on Jun 13, 2013 19:32:51 GMT
Ask him, do you think your ill becuase you smoke lol.
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Post by matt1988 on Jun 13, 2013 19:34:05 GMT
Very good headline line that! And it will turn heads for sure
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Post by Dave Vader on Jun 13, 2013 19:38:25 GMT
Less of a march, more just a nice afternoon out, do what the farmers did not so long ago, bring deckchairs and camping tables, and we'll all sit down in parliament square and have a nice cup of tea and a vape for the afternoon. Bring banners.
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Post by Banky on Jun 13, 2013 19:38:27 GMT
I've got to agree with matt1988, If we where to organise a march how long do you think it would be plastered all over facebook then we would have all the nutters out just to cause trouble.
Yeh that would be great, then look at all media attension that would bring.
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Post by Blownupdolly on Jun 13, 2013 19:46:08 GMT
I like Dave Vaders idea too. Plumes of vapour lingering high in the air outside parliament. We could have a picnic on the grass It's only a short stroll to Downing Street. We could then hand out info leaflets to media and anyone else going in and out
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Post by womble on Jun 13, 2013 20:19:00 GMT
ECCA doesn't need a celeb front. ECCA needs someone who will do justice to the job, to ECCA, because they want to. ECITA does well with Katherine Devlin in the job, she gets on loads of tv and radio, despite being the trade rep for the UK ecig movement. She is not a celeb.s
Despite.... this is the best the UK media can find to talk for UK vapers. Plus we have people who own large lookalike ecig companies talking for the UK vapers.
Now I'm not taking anything away from ECITA, they are doing a great job, they really are, but vapers should have a voice. And that voice should be ECCA.
I am just a forum rep, I know my limitations, ECCA needs more volunteers, people who can work the system, it needs them desperately. People who know how the press works, people who know how to fight a campaign, people willing to be a front man/woman to the press.
ECCA needs you now! Together we can can work to becoming a force to be reckoned with.
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Post by dognero on Jun 13, 2013 20:48:40 GMT
I think instead of a march we should all vape in a busy street/ shopping centre and hand out some sort of leaflet with the truth about our pleasure and try to get as many people to join this forum. Build our numbers then we can have a stronger voice. We should all bring vaping into the open and vape in all of the indoor shopping places because it's leagal to do so. The more we have the stronger our voice will be. That's just my opinion.
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Post by lynxkat on Jun 13, 2013 21:40:01 GMT
Womble, "ECCA needs more volunteers, people who can work the system, it needs them desperately. People who know how the press works," I don't know enough about ECCA at the moment, to commit to being a volunteer, I shall research, but I do know how the Press Works and happy to help. I am a new to Vaping, and I am very grateful to this Forum and try to do all I can to promote Vaping, and this Forum, here is a couple of links to the Vaping Awareness Articles I have had published, in my local area, allaboute-cigarettes.proboards.com/thread/24558/vaping-work allaboute-cigarettes.proboards.com/thread/22869/carlisle-mini-meet-8th-june?page=5 I can tell you for sure, The Newsroom had never heard of Vaping until I went for a Vape Break rather than a Fag break, and pulled out a Vamo with a Protank on top, the News stories then appeared in Cumbria. I suspect most Newsrooms in many areas don't know the difference between an e-cig look alike and Vaping. There's no conspiracy, they are just not all aware of the Vaping Community, that's why you need to make yourself/ourselves heard, the News coverage will certainly follow.
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Post by womble on Jun 13, 2013 22:55:30 GMT
lynxkat (great name btw), we do need people like you, very much. ECCA has been reformed in the last couple of months, with an all new committee. I think almost all the forum reps are new, the vice chairman is new, basically the whole committee. (I think I said that before lol)
We need help, I understand you being reticent, pm me when you have thought about it.
ECCA is made up of volunteers who give their time freely. While they have enthusiasm, they don't always have the skills needed to pilot a craft like ECCA through the minefields of the press.
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Post by lynxkat on Jun 13, 2013 23:23:06 GMT
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Post by fiddles on Jun 13, 2013 23:32:57 GMT
Sorry that's a naïve statement Like everything else in life boils down to money, money = Power, power= influence the press know about PV's and vaping community alright , somewhere behind the screens Tobacco companies (big money .. Big Power) are guiding things and Goverments are happy to let it slide as they would prefer we smoke, they care about money more than people. A fine example from a friend who was in Iraq during first invasion he told me himself (will not name places etc) His company literally came to top of a street where a couple of hundred yards to left was a hospital being ransacked & vandalised , putting patients at risk. They was ordered to ignore hospital and go right and secure an oil Ministrys office. Same here there is Big Money at risk, an average smoker of 20 cigs a day is paying about £5.91 a day to Government ( source www.the-tma.org.uk/tma-publications-research/facts-figures/uk-cigarette-prices/ ) so lets make it easy and say £5 a day , times that by 365 days a year, that equals £1825, I have heard the number about one million vapers rumoured so that equals £1,825,000,000 of lost revenue for the government and remember I rounded down. they aint gonna take that lying down
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Post by womble on Jun 13, 2013 23:51:01 GMT
Hi Womble, as I said, happy to help you with getting some publicity, it is very simple really you simply submit it, but there is an art in doing so. I did not mean to be offensive, just do not know enough about ECCA, but hey, if your for the good, I will gladly join your gang. I am for the good, that's how I like to look at it. ECCA is the Electronic cigarette consumer association. ECCA literally works for the good of the consumer, that's the idea. It is made up of people who give their time for free. I have one of the easier jobs, I just report to ECCA on behalf of AAEC and try to put AAECs values towards ECCA. And I've only been doing it for a few weeks. Let me tell you something about myself. I deplore untruths, I want the best for AAEC and vaping, I want ECCA to represent vaping by fighting whatever needs doing. Atm I consider that to be the threat from the EU/MHRA. If you are happy to go ahead, I will tell the ECCA committee about you and we can start working together
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Post by lynxkat on Jun 14, 2013 0:07:27 GMT
"Sorry that's a naïve statement" your wrong, what I have said is true, on the local level, and I know from my own experience and suspect many local Newsrooms are not aware of the Vaping community, Vaping is pretty much new, and believe me, no directive comes down to local Newspaper Newsrooms as to the stories they run. I have worked as a Staff Photojournalist for more than 30 years, and I tell you they get no such directives on anything.
And if you look at the above links, you will see three different articles, all printed as soon as the Newsroom, so to speak, became aware of Vaping.
You are also very wrong to compare the war in Iraq, with any Vaping story.
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