I'm stuck on mixing a largish quanity of nic base - help !

[emmita]

My intention is to make about 300 ml of nic base with an approx nic content of 15-16mg. 

First I'd like to buy 100ml of PG nic 54mg.
Then add 100ml of pure VG.  Assume this will result in 200ml of approx PG/VG nic base of approx 27mg? Right - or wrong?


What should be the next step to further cut it down to approx 15-16mg?  My thoughts are to further add 50ml each of PG and VG but not at all sure.  End result is hopefully to be able to decant 10ml at a time of this nic base  and to add my preferred flavouring then.

Am I on the right track? My mathematic skills are not the best ???

[Roger]

What PG/VG % do you want your base to be?

[emmita]

About 50/50 Roger.

[charon]

emmita,

Save your self the hassle,just get 3 of these:

www.ltecigs.larsentilbrook.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&path=61_107&product_id=1193


Or variations of the same, don't forget your discount .






Edit, just seen your answer to Roger, same sight 100ml VG base as well as 100ml PG  both at 18mg

[Roger]

charon way is simple and probably easier, but if you wanted to do it your way:

178ml of your 27mg 50/50 base
61ml each of PG and VG

Would give you 300ml of 50/50 @16mg.

[Perpetua]

Download a calculator perhaps and take the guess work out emmita:

ejuice.breaktru.com/

dot1ml.com/

[giles]

What % of flavouring do you mostly use emmita? And what is your target mg for what you actually vape? And is about 50/50 PG/VG what you are after?

[4madcats]

The calculator that Perps had linked is really easy to use, although I would be wary of mixing to much nic base until you're absolutely confident of what your flavour concentrate % is going to be, unless you want the end nic strength to be lower the 15/16mg you will have to take the flavour % into the calculation, & not all flavours are equal even from the same manufacturer, you could use less then 20% for a single flavour juice, then end up >30% if your using multi flavours.

Also if you want a 50/50 ratio VG nic base would be better otherwise your going to struggle with the calculations if your flavour % is over 20%.

Best bet is download the calculator & play with numbers before you buy anything.

[Roger]

Nov 2, 2013 17:17:01 GMT 4madcats said:

The calculator that Perps had linked is really easy to use, although I would be wary of mixing to much nic base until you're absolutely confident of what your flavour concentrate % is going to be, unless you want the end nic strength to be lower the 15/16mg you will have to take the flavour % into the calculation, & not all flavours are equal even from the same manufacturer, you could use less then 20% for a single flavour juice, then end up >30% if your using multi flavours.

Also if you want a 50/50 ratio VG nic base would be better otherwise your going to struggle with the calculations if your flavour % is over 20%.

Best bet is download the calculator & play with numbers before you buy anything.

I totally agree with all of this, I was just answering the OPs' question.  Early on in my mixing career I thought it would be a good idea to have a large amount of base mixed to simplify things, it doesn't, unless you are just making one mix all the time, so all final % are a known amount.

emmita it is better in the long run to have your chosen base, PG & VG, flavourings etc, then use a good calc (as linked).  Mixes often need tweaking, so keep notes etc.  Just making a large amount of base may turn out to be a pain (and more expensive due to possible waste) in the long run.

[Deleted]

emmita I agree with both Perpetua and 4madcats ... use the calculator but rather than premix a PG/VG nic base I would just buy the 54mg PG nic base and some pure PG and VG. That way you can vary the amount of each and your flavour concentrate to achieve your target nicotine strength and PG/VG ratio every time.

[Roger]

I just said that!!!

[emmita]

Thanks for the advice. As usual I am even more confused, so may stick to commercial brands ready to go stuff for the time being. I am sure I will mix very soon as I want to but want to keep it simple.

[Deleted]

Nov 2, 2013 17:50:52 GMT Roger said:

I just said that!!!

LOL Roger   .. crossed posts I'm afraid   .. madcats was the last post when I decided to add my (our as it turns out) tuppence worth.

[Perpetua]

Nov 2, 2013 18:27:11 GMT emmita said:

Thanks for the advice. As usual I am even more confused, so may stick to commercial brands ready to go stuff for the time being. I am sure I will mix very soon as I want to but want to keep it simple.

It is simple emmita, but if you'll forgive me for saying, you're complicating the cauldron before you've even started with contemplating premixing such a huge volume of base.

Why don't you buy a kit to begin with, where you've everything you need to get going:

www.thealchemistscupboard.co.uk/product/mixing%20kit

A few ' standalone ' concentrates from Tjuice:

t-juice.com/pure-flavours.html?check18=1

Some empty bottles and a calculator downloaded and you're pretty much sorted for a good few ml, until you get to grips with everything.

[colli]

Nov 2, 2013 21:34:16 GMT Perpetua said:

Nov 2, 2013 18:27:11 GMT emmita said:

Thanks for the advice. As usual I am even more confused, so may stick to commercial brands ready to go stuff for the time being. I am sure I will mix very soon as I want to but want to keep it simple.

It is simple emmita, but if you'll forgive me for saying, you're complicating the cauldron before you've even started with contemplating premixing such a huge volume of base.

Why don't you buy a kit to begin with, where you've everything you need to get going:

www.thealchemistscupboard.co.uk/product/mixing%20kit

A few ' standalone ' concentrates from Tjuice:

t-juice.com/pure-flavours.html?check18=1

Some empty bottles and a calculator downloaded and you're pretty much sorted for a good few ml, until you get to grips with everything.

bang on! 
and to add the e-juice me up is a blessing. download and use (free) and you will save a massive headache on maths
ejuice.breaktru.com/

dont try to make up large amounts
maybe a 30 ml bottle of 50% pg and 50% vg (or your own % of the two) then a small % of nic and a small % of flavour according to the calculator
(remember you can add but never take away)

make small end result quantities to test your results and once satisfied you can multiply the quantity