"Russian" on VB, £18 ish shipped :) SS

[robby]

Just checked the Rocket (same thing really) but it has a different profile o ring. Thicker manufacture, but the same way of working, I`ll try swapping it.

[fiddles]

Just double checked both mine robby holding them upside down drip tips removed


No Leaks

[robby]

Dec 12, 2013 21:33:26 GMT @freefromsmoking said:

Dec 12, 2013 21:27:26 GMT robby said:

My airflow was the same @freefromsmoking until I adjusted the airflow screw

So would the narrower opening in the drip tip as opposed to that in the funnel cause the tightening up of the draw   .... thinking about in terms of pressure I suppose it would, just as the air flow in, for example, the IGO-L can be improved by drilling the hole out.

You could be right, I dont know why someone doesn`t manufacture a drip tip that you can adjust the airflow on, would make it so much easier

[robby]

Dec 12, 2013 21:36:40 GMT fiddles said:

Just double checked both mine robby holding them upside down drip tips removed


No Leaks

Are your spares black or white fiddles ? Mine are black and thin.

[fiddles]

Dec 12, 2013 21:39:41 GMT robby said:

Dec 12, 2013 21:36:40 GMT fiddles said:

Just double checked both mine robby holding them upside down drip tips removed


No Leaks

Are your spares black or white fiddles ?

they be black

[robby]

Just put the white o ring in off the Rocket. It stays where it should do, too early to talk about leaks though.

[fiddles]

here is contents of my spares bag robby

[robby]

That`s what I got fiddles, but the little black one wont stay in place when you take the top off, it just pushes down the tube a little, however, I just had a look in the spares bag for the Rocket and it has two spares. Same sort of diameter as the black one in your pic but made of bigger diameter rubber/silicone.

I was getting a steamed up centre bit (clear plastic), but with the Rocket spare, it`s clear. 

It`s a good test of the top section of this kind of atty, if the window is getting steamed up at all, you have a poor seal between the top drip tip holding bit and the rest of the atty. It will probably lead to leaks at the airsupply of the atty.

[poochops]

Mines at the post office waiting to be picked up tomorrow, I don't know if I can be bothered now ???

[ant]

poochops Go get it, so it has a few problems but for about £15 you can't expect them all to be perfect. Vapour production is awesome, I can't comment on flavour as I just put in juice I don't like (the nice ones went in the Ithaca and Oddy clones). I'm really impressed with the kit and the Russian is so easy to successfully rebuild, for now.. What pisses me off is that Karen from VB told me my items where posted on the second/third day but they didn't raise a ticket with DHL for six days, What was the point of expensive shipping when the supplier takes their time to send it in the first place?

@robbie
My O-ring kept popping out but after a few forceful presses it seems to stay in place and the seal is holding.

[robby]

I have tried that ant, but short of super gluing it, it still isnt secure, however found better seals in the spares kit for the rocket which is basically the same atty
To me the bore out where the o ring goes is actually too small, so the o ring is always under the kind of pressure that makes it pop out.


It could also be cheap, out of spec o rings

[poochops]

Dec 12, 2013 23:13:35 GMT ant said:

poochops Go get it, so it has a few problems but for about £15 you can't expect them all to be perfect. Vapour production is awesome, I can't comment on flavour as I just put in juice I don't like (the nice ones went in the Ithaca and Oddy clones). I'm really impressed with the kit and the Russian is so easy to successfully rebuild, for now.. What pisses me off is that Karen from VB told me my items where posted on the second/third day but they didn't raise a ticket with DHL for six days, What was the point of expensive shipping when the supplier takes their time to send it in the first place?

@robbie
My O-ring kept popping out but after a few forceful presses it seems to stay in place and the seal is holding.

Yes I'll pick it up of course but the anticipations not there any more after reading through this thread !

funny thing with my delivery is it came on China post but the RM need a signature? That's never happened before, delivery was about 15 days so not too shabby either. It was my first order with VB and I'll be using them again, I'll just do a bit more research next time

[giles]

Dec 12, 2013 20:12:17 GMT ant said:

Dec 12, 2013 13:57:55 GMT giles said:

My russian clone from VB arrived yesterday (orderd 25/11 so not too bad). Seems complete, although no documentation whatever - not even an invoice.

The threading on the fill hole is u/s, but I guess no biggy, I can get the screw to stay in & fill from the top. More of a problem is that I'm getting no air flow at all, even with the thumb screw out. I've checked that it isn't the centre pin rotation position.

Also, I've realised I don't really understand how these things work. It arrived pre-made & pre-coiled, but the wick had been chopped up when they screwed the chimney down, and I'm not sure how you avoid that. And when I did try filling from the fill hole, the juice ran out of the drip tip. Guess I need to watch the videos again.

Giles, I got a Russian today and found the draw to be all over the place. I took it apart, boiled the metal parts and dried it with tissue. I found the air control screw hole was full of metal filings and oil! I just kept poking rolled up tissue until it was clean. Working great at the moment.

Thanks ant. I had some gunge in the air control screw hole, but cleaning it didn't help. Suspected gunge also in the air channel itself, poked a needle up it, went through to the centre pin. Now I have plenty of air flow, but it leaks out of the air channel if I fill it above the hole beneath the coil. Have I b*ggered it?
Currently vaping it without the chimney so I can see what is going on and if the juice is going down the air hole. Surprisingly good vape ???.

[ant]

Dec 13, 2013 1:19:58 GMT giles said:

Dec 12, 2013 20:12:17 GMT ant said:

Giles, I got a Russian today and found the draw to be all over the place. I took it apart, boiled the metal parts and dried it with tissue. I found the air control screw hole was full of metal filings and oil! I just kept poking rolled up tissue until it was clean. Working great at the moment.

Thanks ant. I had some gunge in the air control screw hole, but cleaning it didn't help. Suspected gunge also in the air channel itself, poked a needle up it, went through to the centre pin. Now I have plenty of air flow, but it leaks out of the air channel if I fill it above the hole beneath the coil. Have I b*ggered it?
Currently vaping it without the chimney so I can see what is going on and if the juice is going down the air hole. Surprisingly good vape ???.

giles
I have had a small amount of leakage but only after I watched the third rebuild video someone mentioned - with the chimney off, make sure you push the silica strands down so they cover the inlet channels. Seems to make sense but I'm going to wait until I have vaped what's in there first as I wasted loads of juice yesterday. Even after cleaning yesterday I still had a slight taste of oil but that's gone today.
I'm not sure what you mean by 'above the hole beneath the coil' are you filling it from the side screw hole on the bottom of the rba?

[giles]

Thanks ant. I'm filling it from the top - the threading for the screw on the fill hole is cr*p. I can tighten the screw up but only the last half turn bites, so I can't get it out again without dismantling it and pushing the screw though with something. And I'm afraid that last half turn might go as well, so I'm leaving it done up.

When I wrote my last post I didn't understand the physics of these things. I'm sure you do, but for the lurkers -

When it is full of juice the centre part will fill up and then drain through the air hole unless you have a vacuum at the top outside the chimney. Which is why you have to put your finger over the air hole when you fill from the top - leaves an air bubble inside the centre which has nowhere to go, so the juice can't get in. Then when you turn it upside down and take your finger off, the air bubble does have somewhere to go, but not too much juice can get in because now it has a vacuum above it, caused by the o-ring at the top of the chimney.

But if that o-ring is too thin, then air can get in around it, and so there is no vacuum and juice will flow into the centre part until the level is the same inside and out. And if that level is higher than the hole below the coil - which is where the air comes in - the juice will flow out of it through the air hole.

And that is the problem I have, so my guess is that I will be able to solve it by getting a better o-ring.