One battery or two?

[Karma]

have a read of this thread guys

allaboute-cigarettes.proboards.com/thread/17315/ego-v6-vv

[dognosh]

Best advice I can give you as a noob myself, listen to the non noobs

[vereybowring]

I shall start by saying DON'T STACK BATTERIES.

Now for the information/rant.
If you, despite the warnings, do decide to stack rechargeable batteries in anything, let alone e cigs, then you need to get yourself a battery education.
You need to trawl the internet and research the processes you need to go through to do it safely.
I'm not going to list it all here because YOU need to go and learn for yourself and if you can't be bothered then you deserve to have an accident in my opinion.
I don't wish harm on anybody but do believe in survival of the fittest, so if you can't be bothered keeping yourself safe by educating yourself then that's your fault.
If you end up having an accident despite all the warning then sorry but you did it to yourself. Sure you can probably sue somebody and make some cash but you will still be ignorant and no doubt go on to have further accidents or make bad choices.

So to why did I say any rechargeable batteries ?
That's because they can all go postal if not treated correctly. Lithium batteries get all the big attention because they have the highest energy density of the current battery types. I have seen people with damaged fingers though when their stacked NiMH went bad in their torch and tried to remove fingers.
This is not a new problem, batteries have been exploding since they were invented. The biggest blast result I have seen was from a car battery that had been mistreated by the owner (this not even a stacking issue) that when the battery was being recharged in the garage it blew a hole through the bonnet of the car and on through the garage roof. Now energy densities are high enough that you can cause some major damage if things go really bad.

Learn, track down the battery safety documents. Learn all the safety data for the batteries and chargers you are using. If the device you are stacking in has no safety data and electronic safety measures then it your life not mine you're putting in danger - doubly so if you haven't read any safety data that did get put in instructions.
Complacency is a big factor too. Over time humans get lazy (just about all of us) and shortcuts/bad habits make their way into routine.
If you let that happen then again its your own fault if things go awry.
I did quite a bit of physics and chemistry as well as my father being an ex royal engineer and he taught hammered safety into me from a very young age.

Know the risks, learn the safety and don't blow yourself up !

[enjay]

Ha ha A1 rant! I definitely hear you there!

Anyway I wont be stacking them myself as I'm using the 18650's which are to big but I am a bit concerned that it has the option for stacking now. I could do with some good info so I can email the vendor with it and he can sort out the info at his end before someone else gets a sore knee or a bleeding lip.

The SVD comes with the option of two smaller batteries for stacking or not or two big ones that can't be stacked and also as I said it's in the instructions about setting the device up for stacking. Not good unless it's the 5th of November by the sounds of it.

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Dec 15, 2013 11:37:53 GMT fiddles said:

Dec 14, 2013 17:41:33 GMT @freefromsmoking said:

Please, please, please!!! NEVER stack lithium batteries ... one 18650 or one 18500 or one 18350 ... it is telescopic so that it can accomodate one of any size of 18mm diameter battery.

BUT
I have a mod here especially for 2 stacked 18350's, If you put in ONE freshly charged 18650 & try use it you get Lo for low power.

No disrespect fiddles but I would have that mod looked at or put in the bin  .... something ain't right with a mod that is either not designed to or can't operate at 4.1 volts

[Karma]

It's probably an egoV6 like I posted about above @freefromsmoking a very bad design IMO

[enjay]

Dec 15, 2013 15:29:08 GMT @freefromsmoking said:

Dec 15, 2013 11:37:53 GMT fiddles said:

BUT
I have a mod here especially for 2 stacked 18350's, If you put in ONE freshly charged 18650 & try use it you get Lo for low power.

No disrespect fiddles but I would have that mod looked at or put in the bin  .... something ain't right with a mod that is either not designed to or can't operate at 4.1 volts

With mine there's something you do to clear the memory for that very reason. Is there nothing in the instructions for yours?

Just had a look, you hold the power button for 5 seconds with no battery installed, this clears it so it's ready for one or two batteries.

[Ron]

A very good regime is required for using 2 18350 batteries together they should always be paired then charged together .When you insert them you MUST alternate the positions (the one that was inserted first last time must be the last to be inserted next time.I have done this but to be honest it is not worth the trouble for what you achieve.My mod will only allow stacked batteries so its sitting in the drawer as I can't stand any more grey hairs because if one of the batteries malfunctions it has the capacity to go nearly nuclear
The mod was a vmax which they sold off cheap because of the risks
Recomend you do not do it

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Dec 15, 2013 15:33:58 GMT Karma said:

It's probably an egoV6 like I posted about above @freefromsmoking a very bad design IMO

Yeah  ... just finished reading that thread  ... if that doesn't convince the doubters/chance takers then on their own heads be it  ... some people you just can't win unfortunately 

[Karma]

Dec 15, 2013 15:45:26 GMT @freefromsmoking said:

Dec 15, 2013 15:33:58 GMT Karma said:

It's probably an egoV6 like I posted about above @freefromsmoking a very bad design IMO

Yeah  ... just finished reading that thread  ... if that doesn't convince the doubters/chance takers then on their own heads be it  ... some people you just can't win unfortunately 

Indeed, I'll post it again to be sure peeps don't miss it, shame the photos are not still on it

allaboute-cigarettes.proboards.com/thread/17315/ego-v6-vv

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Dec 15, 2013 15:37:09 GMT enjay said:

Dec 15, 2013 15:29:08 GMT @freefromsmoking said:

No disrespect fiddles but I would have that mod looked at or put in the bin  .... something ain't right with a mod that is either not designed to or can't operate at 4.1 volts

With mine there's something you do to clear the memory for that very reason. Is there nothing in the instructions for yours?

Just had a look, you hold the power button for 5 seconds with no battery installed, this clears it so it's ready for one or two batteries.

I sold my svd BUT if I remember correctly, that piece of advice was to clear the memory of data concerning the charge state of the old battery when changing batteries  ... NOT when replacing 18650 with 2 x 18350.

[fiddles]

Dec 15, 2013 15:29:08 GMT @freefromsmoking said:

Dec 15, 2013 11:37:53 GMT fiddles said:

BUT
I have a mod here especially for 2 stacked 18350's, If you put in ONE freshly charged 18650 & try use it you get Lo for low power.

No disrespect fiddles but I would have that mod looked at or put in the bin  .... something ain't right with a mod that is either not designed to or can't operate at 4.1 volts

It was brought as a kit with 2 18350 batteries & is only designed for that, therefore when I put in 1 x 18650 it see's this as being very low power and refuses to work

It was first mod I got HERE a Veri Stack VZ6

It uses stacked batteries and step down circuitry to adjust the voltage down

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Dec 15, 2013 16:06:39 GMT fiddles said:

Dec 15, 2013 15:29:08 GMT @freefromsmoking said:

No disrespect fiddles but I would have that mod looked at or put in the bin  .... something ain't right with a mod that is either not designed to or can't operate at 4.1 volts

It was brought as a kit with 2 18350 batteries & is only designed for that, therefore when I put in 1 x 18650 it see's this as being very low power and refuses to work

It was first mod I got HERE a Veri Stack VZ6

That seems to be very similar to the one that Karma posted about earlier. For the sake of a few quid I would ditch it mate  ... I would hate to see that twinkle in your eye replaced with a gaping hole 

[enjay]

Dec 15, 2013 15:50:59 GMT @freefromsmoking said:

Dec 15, 2013 15:37:09 GMT enjay said:

With mine there's something you do to clear the memory for that very reason. Is there nothing in the instructions for yours?

Just had a look, you hold the power button for 5 seconds with no battery installed, this clears it so it's ready for one or two batteries.

I sold my svd BUT if I remember correctly, that piece of advice was to clear the memory of data concerning the charge state of the old battery when changing batteries  ... NOT when replacing 18650 with 2 x 18350.

Nah it's quite specific,

"Note: Before you make a switch between one battery and two batteries, please hold the (power button symbol) button for 5 seconds to release the capacitance in the mainboard. (when you make a switch from one battery to two batteries, the mainboard will keep the one battery settings if you haven't released the remaining capacity; and vice versa."

That's what t says

[Karma]

Just because you can do something doesn't make it a good idea to do it

saying no more on the subject!