One battery or two?

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Dec 15, 2013 16:15:08 GMT enjay said:

Dec 15, 2013 15:50:59 GMT @freefromsmoking said:

I sold my svd BUT if I remember correctly, that piece of advice was to clear the memory of data concerning the charge state of the old battery when changing batteries  ... NOT when replacing 18650 with 2 x 18350.

Nah it's quite specific,

"Note: Before you make a switch between one battery and two batteries, please hold the (power button symbol) button for 5 seconds to release the capacitance in the mainboard. (when you make a switch from one battery to two batteries, the mainboard will keep the one battery settings if you haven't released the remaining capacity; and vice versa."

That's what t says

LOL  ... up to you mate  ... at the end of the day it's your face that will get the injury, not some Innokin executive's 

[fiddles]

Dec 15, 2013 16:13:22 GMT @freefromsmoking said:

Dec 15, 2013 16:06:39 GMT fiddles said:

It was brought as a kit with 2 18350 batteries & is only designed for that, therefore when I put in 1 x 18650 it see's this as being very low power and refuses to work

It was first mod I got HERE a Veri Stack VZ6

That seems to be very similar to the one that Karma posted about earlier. For the sake of a few quid I would ditch it mate  ... I would hate to see that twinkle in your eye replaced with a gaping hole 

I haven't used it for months, like I said it was first mod I got. I was more pointing out some mods are made to use stacked batteries.
I have more than enough mods to keep me busy

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Dec 15, 2013 16:30:26 GMT fiddles said:

Dec 15, 2013 16:13:22 GMT @freefromsmoking said:

That seems to be very similar to the one that Karma posted about earlier. For the sake of a few quid I would ditch it mate  ... I would hate to see that twinkle in your eye replaced with a gaping hole 

I haven't used it for months, like I said it was first mod I got. I was more pointing out some mods are made to use stacked batteries.
I have more than enough mods to keep me busy

Good Lord, you still have a cig-alike in your collection  ... now that is what I call hoarding 

[fiddles]

Dec 15, 2013 16:33:51 GMT @freefromsmoking said:

Good Lord, you still have a cig-alike in your collection  ... now that is what I call hoarding 

gotta keep it for prosperity, it was what first peaked my interest in vaping

[enjay]

freefromsmoking you missunderstand me, I've no intention of using two batteries now, I was posting that for the other guy that's having bother getting his to work with one.

Don't get me wrong, I am stupid but I don't want a burnt or damaged face lol

[giles]

Then again, I'm typing this on a laptop powered by stacked 18650s.

My first mod used stacked 18650s - garrydibley vv tin mod. I used imr batteries, always used as a pair, charged as a pair (so that one was never charging the other). I reckon it was pretty safe. Also unlikely to damage me if a battery did explode because of the construction - the lid would blow open, but take most of the force. But it would be a bit exciting I guess.

[Karma]

Dec 15, 2013 18:16:30 GMT giles said:

Then again, I'm typing this on a laptop powered by stacked 18650s.

My first mod used stacked 18650s - garrydibley vv tin mod. I used imr batteries, always used as a pair, charged as a pair (so that one was never charging the other). I reckon it was pretty safe. Also unlikely to damage me if a battery did explode because of the construction - the lid would blow open, but take most of the force. But it would be a bit exciting I guess.

not stacked, in parallel

[alansi]

Dec 15, 2013 18:16:30 GMT giles said:

Then again, I'm typing this on a laptop powered by stacked 18650s.

My first mod used stacked 18650s - garrydibley vv tin mod. I used imr batteries, always used as a pair, charged as a pair (so that one was never charging the other). I reckon it was pretty safe. Also unlikely to damage me if a battery did explode because of the construction - the lid would blow open, but take most of the force. But it would be a bit exciting I guess.

They can explode too:

[giles]

Dec 15, 2013 18:46:35 GMT Karma said:

Dec 15, 2013 18:16:30 GMT giles said:

Then again, I'm typing this on a laptop powered by stacked 18650s.

My first mod used stacked 18650s - garrydibley vv tin mod. I used imr batteries, always used as a pair, charged as a pair (so that one was never charging the other). I reckon it was pretty safe. Also unlikely to damage me if a battery did explode because of the construction - the lid would blow open, but take most of the force. But it would be a bit exciting I guess.

not stacked, in parallel

True, of both the laptop and the tin mod, but I'm not sure it makes a lot of difference to the risk of explosion, which I think is about one draining fast into another.

And alansi is also right - laptops do sometimes explode. 

But I'd go with P. Busardo: "Try not to stack, but if you MUST… 1) use protected batteries (unless your device doesn’t like protected batteries then see the following points), 2) use a fuse such as the 2 Cents For Safety if your device doesn’t have built in protection, 3) use a like pair, 4) your like pair should have been purchased at the same time… they are married. They like to be together and spend all their time together. So they want to be discharged (in the device) and charged (on the charger) together. Never stack unlike batteries, or like batteries of unknown condition."

I'm actually aware of only two explosions of ecigs while in use - one reported here (which had stacked batteries) and that bloke in Florida (we still don't know what he was doing). I'm sure there are more, but I doubt if there are a lot. Whereas we know of a fair number exploding while being charged (plus a lot of laptops).

These days I avoid stacking, but then I wouldn't use a pass-through either - I don't need to, so I don't. But if someone only has a mod which only takes them stacked, and the construction is sensible, the batteries are good and always treated identically, then I think it is probably safe compared to, for instance, smoking, and I don't know that I'm happy telling someone that they have to throw it away. I do advise people not to stack batteries in Vamos and SVDs, because they don't need to.

[dognosh]

TESLA motors, in their newer models, use 8000 of the panny 18650A batteries,in series and parallel,so they are "stacked" . Recently there has been a spate of Tesla cars catching fire , some after accidents.

What does this say with regards to this thread ? well, nothing actually !
just wanted to mention the fact that Tesla cars can be used for vaping, if you stick a clearo on it

[Karma]

re garrydibley tin mods

I asked him by PM about using the batteries in parallel, this was his reply

Hi Karma, the board is fully protected and has short, low battery and a host of other protections built in.
As with any twin battery units you need to add the batts as the same charge level.
But the board will detect when the voltage is to low to operate and shut down.

I use high drain flat top Efest IMR batts for great results.