Started vaping again :)

[happyloman]

Hi I joined here a couple of months back and after about a month of trying different ecigs and liquids I had spent close to £300 and nothing felt right so I gave up and went back to GV rollups:(
Fate has caught up with me now though and Im waiting for the results from a sample taken from the lump in my pituitary gland

So Im back to these things, I have an Innokinn Itazte vv as I thought the variable part would help me find what I needed.

The main reason I quit ecigs before was the following problems, which I cant really solve.

1. After a couple of puffs i get a tingling feeling around my gums and tongue, I think this was the PG value, but i kept struggling to find retailers who even gave a description of the PG/VG ratio. I know just now the flavour, for me, needs to be as close to GVirginia as possible and would appreciate any recommendations.

2. There is always a kind popping noise when I press the button for more than 1 or 2 seconds, dont know if thats normal or im doing something wrong.

3. 100% VG seemed to make my stomach painful, but even 50/50 gave me that tingling sensation I get from PG, I never found anything less than 60/40, though I cant remember which was which as the bottle I still have doesnt say on it. Its ELiquid Hangsen Golden VI, but weirdly the Hangsen just seems to list flavours but no means to purchase, never mind PG/VG ratios?

4. The biggest issue for me was they dont go out! lol. I could find my self puffing away until the gums hurt, then puffing away a few minutes later again. Are there any ecigs that beep after 3 minutes or something? Im say 3mins because an average smoke takes that long for me.

5. Do people think its best to get the low strength nicotine and puff as much as you need? I smoked about 30 rollups a day, but sometimes on these ecigs (again theres nothing on the bottle to tell me its strength) I can end up with a headache even I manage to avoid enraging my gums.

6. The problem with liquids is not knowing who to trust too, there doesnt seem to be any company thats been around for years and moved into this new market. Even Nicorette dont seem to want to be involved.



Would greatly appreciate any help people could give in relation to these issues.
thankyou

[loobiebloo]

I could respond on several different levels here but I'm going with - Golden Virginia is not the way to go! There is a whole world of flavour out there. What's the point of giving up cigarettes if all you do is strive for something which replicates what you're trying to get rid of? I tried the tobacco thing initially and now realise that it was a big mistake, I vape a few tobacco based liquids but they taste really good - not like the real thing at all!!! Think alternative, think better than. I can't comment on the health/physical stuff - I've never felt better!

[giles]

Welcome back happyloman. Hope the news from your tests is good.

1) I don't know of a good GV in VG only. I'd try some other tobacco flavours - VG only - from these people - see which one seems closest

2) Popping noise is normal with some atomisers

3) I doubt if your stomach pains are a reaction to PG. There's a tendency to overdo the nic when you start vaping. I'd try VG only. and drink plenty of water

4) I don't know of anything that beeps. Get yourself an egg timer!

5) No, get high nic

6) The suppliers on our list are all pretty good.

Persevere - changing to vaping can be a bit of a journey, but you will get there in the end

[raid2506]

Hi happyloman, I didn't get to say hello to you before so I'll welcome you now.

Everybody has a preference for flavours and nic strength but (IMHO) vapers who persist with baccy flavours are in the minority.
Not sure what's causing the tingling around your gums but I get the same if I smoke now days, could be the nicotine?
What strength are you using?
My advice is to puff away as much as you need to. One of the big advantages of vaping over smoking is that it irons out the highs and lows which you are used to with tobacco. That will help to reduce your cigarette dependance.
The headache is usually due to dehydration, make sure you drink plenty of fluids. I smoked 30 a day and started with 18mg, it wasn't enough and I soon upped to 22-24mg. After a couple of weeks I was back to 18mg and happy like that for 10 months.
Try a juice vendor like Joosejuice or The Alchemist Cupboard, UK based vendors who mix their own and are well respected, there are many more out there, check the vendors list.
I've got some 18mg baccy flavours you can have but you will not be finding anything like GV amongst them. The best you can hope for is a close cousin to the flavours that have been killing you for years.

[chykensa]

Some great advice above from loobiebloo,giles and raid2506. I will only be repeating stuff but here's my take.
I have always avoided tobacco flavours apart from right at the start when I, like you, thought that that was the way to go. I now have no tobacco in my juice collection, preferring fruit, mint and dessert flavours. There's no point in any of us recommending particular flavours for you to try, as our palates and tastes are all different. I'm afraid it's just a case of trying a selection until you find something which you like. Bear in mind also that after giving up tobacco smoking, your taste buds will recover and you will find that flavours you used to like become quite revolting, and vice versa.
Drink plenty of water in small sips - PG and VG can dehydrate you and that will almost certainly be the cause of the headaches.
Popping atomisers - you will come to love that sound as it means the coil is really boiling the juice to give you a good bit of flavour and vapour!
You will find that all UK based juice creators and home-produced vendors (but maybe not re-sellers of Chinese e-liquid) will state the strength of the juice on the bottle. It can range from 0mg (zero nic) to 36mg, but something around 18mg with perhaps a bottle of 24mg for big cravings will be ideal for you.
Above all, remember that after years of smoking tobacco, your body will be going through a huge number of changes, having lost all the thousands of chemicals added to the tobacco. Your circulation will improve, as will your sense of taste and smell, and on a chemical level your brain will be losing its addiction to those additives too. Be ready, but not too worried, by some of the strange sensations you may experience (although I should add of course that if you are at all worried, go to your GP - most, if not all, will simply be pleased that you have given up tobacco smoking!).
Hope this little essay helps (!), and do ask if you have any more queries!

[raid2506]

I wish there was a 'high five' smiley for chykensa, I was thinking that stuff but couldn't find the words.

happyloman, you may be struggling now but imagine you are a snake shedding it's skin.
It's uncomfortable and doesn't feel good right now but soon you will look back and see the husk you left behind.
When you do you will have a new body and a new outlook on life and it feels GOOD!!!

[buckowski]

I vape a Virginia flavour pretty regular, its much higher in VG to PG, not sure exactly what percentage though the maker would keep you right. Its called TCV and its made to a standard 12% nic. If interested drop me a pm and I'll dig the contact address out. Its a really lovely flavour.

[happyloman]

Hi thanks to all, Ive got a feeling you all know the fut head Ive had the last few days too. I took time to reply because Ive not found how to get an email when there is a reply?
The thing about the GV juice I was smoking was I liked it, lol! It had a kick in it that felt like baccy. Ie got some coffe flavours but they are all PG 70, Ive hunted somemore on the net and it seems most tobacco flavours are that setting of 70.30 too. Ive settled for now on a 50/50 cappuchino flavour but I know its not for me, its just its not causing this tingling sensation so quickly in my mouth.
All the flavours I have are either 18mg or 12mg nicotine.
I also got up this morning and found the Cappuchino flavour has become kind of solid in the ecig, is that normal? Im still able to smoke it, but the GV juice would stay liquid. The sweetness of the Cappuchino flvr is a bit off to me, I did used to smoke Vanilla rolling tobacco but the Vanilla really did tear my mouth up in September.

Im definately going through withrawel symptoms my head is that fuzzy way, and I find when Im sucking the ecig I really want to bite into the Filter thingy lol.

Will try drinking more water and have gone to a site and orderd more of the cartomiers, so I can try new flavours

If its okay 2 other things are the cartomisers seem to leak when they are not attacjed to the ecig, as they came in a cardboard box im not sure how to store them?
The other is Ive been placing the ecig on an edge so that its sitting diagonal, with the filter at rop and base lower down, if I leave it flat it tends to flood the filter, Ive got 2 cats and this was another reason for stopping before, though for leaks, this ecig is much better than "Elegance" one i first bought. Its the fuzzy head and the minefield of options and websites Ive not heard of that got me wound up last night, Im sitting thinking I should just have a real smoke settle down and then start reading, but Im kidding myself that I will, life gets in the way and theres no time. Ive got 2 weeks off work to get this nailed down, so I really appreciate the help you have all offered, will go follow the links and just blow some money on 50/50 or less PG juices. Think the flavours arent to appealing to me just now, so Im going to go for mint or something, the sweet ones feel too sickly. I take theres no sugar like stuff that can damage teeth in any of these? I googled but didnt find anything.

thankyou again, will check back in tomorrow,

Happy New Year to you all

[Steve (VapeStorm)]

Welcome back

[happyloman]

lol found out how to bookmark now

[happyloman]

Jan 11, 2014 23:28:46 GMT buckowski said:

I vape a Virginia flavour pretty regular, its much higher in VG to PG, not sure exactly what percentage though the maker would keep you right. Its called TCV and its made to a standard 12% nic. If interested drop me a pm and I'll dig the contact address out. Its a really lovely flavour.

If you happen to find it mate let me know, but dont go to any trouble just now, if its alright I may comeback to you later. Im thinking Im going to stick with one of these cappachino flaovurs and just go through the ratios to see what one works best, then I will try flvours. Maybe folks are right about ditchn tobacco flavours, its just the throat hit was just right to me, but I keep reading the PG is whats causing it and that that is the thing that maybe causing the irritation after 3 or 4 puffs.

Think I need to kind of simplify, thankyou for the offer and hope you wont mind if I come back later, cheers mate

[chykensa]

happyloman - it's a combination of the PG and nicotine which gives the 'throat hit' to a juice; the flavour is just that - flavour. Of course, once they are all blended together it gives the illusion of the flavour having the throat hit. I suspect there is also a psychological aspect, with your brain wanting to think that it's the flavour giving you that hit, just like tobacco used to.
Many vapers who used to hate menthol tobacco and filters find that a good strong Menthol flavour give a great throat hit - I'm sure I've read somewhere on here that menthol does the same as the chocolate added to tobacco (Yes, really!) i.e. it opens the airways so that the nicotine gets absorbed more quickly, which is why menthol juices are so good.
Could you perhaps stick a picture up of your cart/clearomiser so that we can all see what you are using? It will be much easier for us to help you with your other queries if we can see the offending article. Alternatively, could you perhaps link to the site you bought it from?
TCV (Top Cookie's Virginia) is made and sold privately by a chap on the Liberty Flights forum - you could register there and ask him for some direct - search for either 'TCV' or 'Top Cookie'. I thought I had his email address somewhere, but I've checked and can't find it. It's almost entirely VG, made at 12%, and tastes quite different, with a strong but not unpleasant peppery taste (to my palate, anyway!).

[Deleted]

The tingling and leaking are related. Its the little bits of leaked juice on your lips causing the tingling. Get some decent cartomisers, evod/protank/iclears are all good and value for money and should solve your issues. Good luck

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[newdawn]

Smoke Rainbow sells 1ml samples of all sorts of premium juices for very little money. They've got tobacco as well as all sorts of other fun stuff. Might be worth giving them a go to help you find something you'll like.

[dinamic22]

happyloman i was one of those that could not stand menthol when i smoked but now vape a Cherry & Menthol home mix all the time & have done so for about 5 months, my sister adds a few drops of Menthol to every liquid as it gives her the throat hit she needs.