Wish I had tried them before now....

[Blownupdolly]

I have been vaping more than 16mths now. In all that time I had avoided any sort of set up that involved coiling. This was mainly due to the fact I have very shaky hands because of medications I take, plus, Mr Dolly didn't fancy learning. He recently changed his mind and has conquered the art of recoiling. This left me to buy a cheap Russian Kayfun clone this week, just to see how I got on with RBAs.

Well!!..... What an epiphany! I cannot believe the difference in taste, flavour and vapour production. Absolutely amazing. If, like me, you have been putting off trying them, or don't think they will make much difference, please give it a go.

My clone only cost £25 it might not last long, yet again it could last for years. Who knows! One thing I do know is that I am hooked. If this cheap one breaks I am happy to buy a genuine Kayfun now.

[furbs]

I agree, i have 2 protanks, 3 iclear30s and 2 iclear16s sitting in a draw that i once loved, i will prob never touch them again.

My Kayfun is better, much better, never leaks, never has a dry hit, never gurgles and is very easy to re-coil and re-wick.

Im getting the new Russian next week and cant wait!

[Blownupdolly]

Jan 31, 2014 9:46:02 GMT furbs said:

I agree, i have 2 protanks, 3 iclear30s and 2 iclear16s sitting in a draw that i once loved, i will prob never touch them again.

My Kayfun is better, much better, never leaks, never has a dry hit, never gurgles and is very easy to re-coil and re-wick.

Im getting the new Russian next week and cant wait!

Yes, I think we will be buying that too. Mr Dolly is more than a tad envious after trying mine. Seeing as he will be doing all the coiling etc, he deserves one of his own.

Where are you buying yours from?

[chris86]

I'm glad that you've found a setup that suits you Blownupdolly. But I don't think that rebuildables are for everyone - they certainly aren't for me! I don't mean to cast a downer on things, but it seems to me that enjoying fiddling around is a must if you plan to get into rebuilding. I mean, have you seen those videos? They say that they're going to teach you a 'simple' coil build, and then spend the next half hour faffing with blowtorches, tweezers, different types of wire and suchlike.

I know that some people find rebuilding very straightforward and even enjoyable, but I hate tinkering and I'm terrible at it. After 5 minutes of getting wire tangled up and burning my fingers I get so stressed that I feel like having a cigarette! I think it's better for me to accept that I have the hand-eye coordination of an intoxicated sloth and zero patience when it comes to this kind of thing. To be honest I'm not interested in searching for vaping nirvana, and I'm definitely not planning on driving myself mad in the process. I vote for an easy life and sticking to the cartos and clearos!

[giles]

I got mine from vaporbreak, £17-44 delivered. They have various problems, but mostly seem to work in the end. There's a thread about it here.

I thought I'd get another clone from a UK supplier, so I bought one from Butt-out, for nearly twice the price. It turned out to be exactly the same thing as from vaporbeak, down to the slightly illiterate wording on the box, except that mine is, so far, entirely problem-free. Maybe I was lucky, maybe Butt-out pay for a bit more Q&A. Also, of course, I didn't have to wait 2 weeks and if it had been bad I could have sent it back more easily.

I also bought a Rocket from FT, but I don't recommend it - not that there is anything wrong with it, it is lovely, but under the chrome it has a brass deck, and brass contains lead, and lead is bad for you. So once I scratch the inside, that is the end of it.

[furbs]

Jan 31, 2014 9:57:41 GMT Blownupdolly said:

Jan 31, 2014 9:46:02 GMT furbs said:

I agree, i have 2 protanks, 3 iclear30s and 2 iclear16s sitting in a draw that i once loved, i will prob never touch them again.

My Kayfun is better, much better, never leaks, never has a dry hit, never gurgles and is very easy to re-coil and re-wick.

Im getting the new Russian next week and cant wait!

Yes, I think we will be buying that too. Mr Dolly is more than a tad envious after trying mine. Seeing as he will be doing all the coiling etc, he deserves one of his own.

Where are you buying yours from?

Getting mine from Mods and attys- 40 quid.

www.modsandatties.com/en/home/35-the-russian-91-v2-plus.html

[Blownupdolly]

Jan 31, 2014 10:11:59 GMT chris86 said:

I'm glad that you've found a setup that suits you Blownupdolly. But I don't think that rebuildables are for everyone - they certainly aren't for me! I don't mean to cast a downer on things, but it seems to me that enjoying fiddling around is a must if you plan to get into rebuilding. I mean, have you seen those videos? They say that they're going to teach you a 'simple' coil build, and then spend the next half hour faffing with blowtorches, tweezers, different types of wire and suchlike.

I know that some people find rebuilding very straightforward and even enjoyable, but I hate tinkering and I'm terrible at it. After 5 minutes of getting wire tangled up and burning my fingers I get so stressed that I feel like having a cigarette! I think it's better for me to accept that I have the hand-eye coordination of an intoxicated sloth and zero patience when it comes to this kind of thing. To be honest I'm not interested in searching for vaping nirvana, and I'm definitely not planning on driving myself mad in the process. I vote for an easy life and sticking to the cartos and clearos!

You sound much like me to be honest. A two yr old has more patience. BUT, the difference for me is that my husband is an obsessive tinkerer (much to my annoyance most of the time!) but for this task, he is perfect and I intend to make full use of his skills.

I totally understand where you are coming from. I am just lucky to have someone who is happy to do it.
It does take practice though. When he first started he hated it. The language that bellowed from his corner of the room was blue as hell. He would chuck all the bit away, stomp off and not bother for a few days, but, after a few weeks he seems to have got it down to an art.

[Blownupdolly]

Jan 31, 2014 10:15:28 GMT giles said:

I got mine from vaporbreak, £17-44 delivered. They have various problems, but mostly seem to work in the end. There's a thread about it here.

I thought I'd get another clone from a UK supplier, so I bought one from Butt-out, for nearly twice the price. It turned out to be exactly the same thing as from vaporbeak, down to the slightly illiterate wording on the box, except that mine is, so far, entirely problem-free. Maybe I was lucky, maybe Butt-out pay for a bit more Q&A. Also, of course, I didn't have to wait 2 weeks and if it had been bad I could have sent it back more easily.

I also bought a Rocket from FT, but I don't recommend it - not that there is anything wrong with it, it is lovely, but under the chrome it has a brass deck, and brass contains lead, and lead is bad for you. So once I scratch the inside, that is the end of it.

Mine was £25 from hightectrading.com

I didn't mind paying the little extra than the Chinese to get it quicker. Especially as they are all off on holidays over there. It was free postage too.

As I said, it was more an exercise to see how we got on with them before getting a real one.

[chris86]

Jan 31, 2014 10:18:58 GMT Blownupdolly said:

Jan 31, 2014 10:11:59 GMT chris86 said:

I'm glad that you've found a setup that suits you Blownupdolly. But I don't think that rebuildables are for everyone - they certainly aren't for me! I don't mean to cast a downer on things, but it seems to me that enjoying fiddling around is a must if you plan to get into rebuilding. I mean, have you seen those videos? They say that they're going to teach you a 'simple' coil build, and then spend the next half hour faffing with blowtorches, tweezers, different types of wire and suchlike.

I know that some people find rebuilding very straightforward and even enjoyable, but I hate tinkering and I'm terrible at it. After 5 minutes of getting wire tangled up and burning my fingers I get so stressed that I feel like having a cigarette! I think it's better for me to accept that I have the hand-eye coordination of an intoxicated sloth and zero patience when it comes to this kind of thing. To be honest I'm not interested in searching for vaping nirvana, and I'm definitely not planning on driving myself mad in the process. I vote for an easy life and sticking to the cartos and clearos!

You sound much like me to be honest. A two yr old has more patience. BUT, the difference for me is that my husband is an obsessive tinkerer (much to my annoyance most of the time!) but for this task, he is perfect and I intend to make full use of his skills.

I totally understand where you are coming from. I am just lucky to have someone who is happy to do it.
It does take practice though. When he first started he hated it. The language that bellowed from his corner of the room was blue as hell. He would chuck all the bit away, stomp off and not bother for a few days, but, after a few weeks he seems to have got it down to an art.

You're very lucky to have someone to do it for you - maybe I'll hire a professional rebuilder / butler if I ever win the lottery (I wonder what Super-Shiny would look like in a butler's outfit?  ) I know that building coils takes practice and that I could probably figure it out eventually (although it might take me several years because I'm utterly impractical!), but I just don't have the motivation to make the effort. I'm very content with my clearos, cartos and 306 dripping atties and I can use them without flying into a rage, so I think it's best if I stick to what I know and like. 

[furbs]

I re-coil once a week just cos i like doing it and re-wick with cotton every 2-3 days, the re-coil now takes me about 15 mins all in, the re-wick about 5 mins.

The coil would prob be fine for 4x that with just a dry burn once each time i re-wick, but like i say...i like doing it.

[Yorkshireman]

I have managed to recoil my wifes vivi nova but when i try the protank coils it always tastes of accrid burning.

[ionian]

I'm the same - once my Russian clone arrived from vaporbreak, I found it really difficult to go back to clearos because the flavour was so much better. I'd been practising coiling on protank heads, not very successfully, but I found the kayfun a doddle by comparison.

I now have a selection of different rebuildables and I enjoy the coiling. However, I wouldn't have said that when I first started making them - fiddly and frustrating would better sum it up!

There are a couple of clearos that give great flavour, so there isn't a real need to recoil if it's not for you, but my experience is that it's worth persevering with in the long run.

[jed2705]

Not ideal for everything, and I'm still waiting on the slow boat to try the ones I ordered, but you can always pay someone to do the fiddly bit.

Fasttech coils

[Blownupdolly]

Jan 31, 2014 11:12:04 GMT Yorkshireman said:

I have managed to recoil my wifes vivi nova but when i try the protank coils it always tastes of accrid burning.

My husbands were the same when he first started.

[Blownupdolly]

Jan 31, 2014 11:42:43 GMT jed2705 said:

Not ideal for everything, and I'm still waiting on the slow boat to try the ones I ordered, but you can always pay someone to do the fiddly bit.

Fasttech coils

I had considered these a while back but I read somewhere that a lot of them in the batches were faulty and you end up throwing a lot of them away.