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Post by Perpetua on Oct 4, 2011 6:38:48 GMT
That's reassured me, thank you Jason. It was also fine on a couple of other none VV devices, shame there seem to be 'issues' with them, I'm really impressed. Maybe give your customer's the option of having them tested, they could specify on Checkout perhaps.
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Post by andy800 on Oct 4, 2011 14:27:20 GMT
I would say that providing your Provari short circuit protection is in order, it would be the safest way to test one. I'm actually thinking about pre-testing all Smokymizers before they go out now, but it will mean taking them out of those foil packets, so I'm not sure how people will react to that ??? Excellent offer on your part Jason - thanks for that, most kind of you squire
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Post by rog on Oct 4, 2011 15:04:56 GMT
What about Dons, are smokymizers liable to cause problems bearing in mind they're mechanical rather than full of circuitry? I'm presuming not but thought I'd check rather than risk it?
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Post by VE Jason on Oct 4, 2011 15:11:24 GMT
Yes, Rog they can, just the same as any atomiser or cartomiser can, if they are shorted. It's the batteries in the Don that would suffer. I've decided to pre-test all of mine, whether the customer requests it or not (Andy and another customer have already seen the thread and taken me up on the offer). It must be stressed though that out of over 150 packs of Smokymizers sold up to now, I've only had one report of a possible short, so they are definately rare and we do occasionally get this problem with the odd batch of atomisers.
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Post by rog on Oct 4, 2011 15:19:34 GMT
Okay, will have to be careful then.
If they are faulty will it happen when they're first used or can it happen any time?
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Post by VE Jason on Oct 4, 2011 15:54:00 GMT
I'm no expert on short circuits Rog, but one of the main reasons a short can be caused is by over tightening the atomiser/cartomiser. They only need to make contact.
On the Don, I have noticed that the Smokymizers have a slight gap when on and some people may be tempted to continue tightening to close the gap - that's a bad move and shouldn't be done.
The other thing I would watch for is bending the Atomiser/cartomiser about or if dropped, because this could cause a short.
Basically, don't over tighten and if it doesn't fire up or starts to heat up at the battery end - stop using it.
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Post by kingsley on Dec 6, 2011 2:01:33 GMT
I've bought one pack of Smokeymizers so far and have a love/hate relationship with them. A good chunk of it possibly my own fault.
When they are working well they provide the best vaping I have experienced yet. I have only been vaping around 7 weeks though and am well aware there are many things I am yet to try.
Of the 5-pack I bought, 2 I have binned due to excessive leaking (a third is getting close to this). Although, TBF, only one had this problem on it's first fill. The 2nd I had taken apart. Partly for curiosity and partly hoping preventative maintenance would be clever. I can't blame anyone but myself for that.
One obviously developed an electrical problem, that I suspect was a short. No matter which of my two eGo batteries it was connected to, the battery reacted as if it needed to be charged. Connecting any other known good carto or atty resulted in normal battery performance. It was quickly binned.
One of the advantages I have found though is that if anything does go wrong, you can recover most of the juice from them, if you spot it quickly enough.
The plugs are a pain though. It is so easy to lose them through them springing out of tweasers and flying across the room! It would be great if we could but a pack of 50 plugs for a quid or something.
I'm not ready to give up on them yet though. As I hinted above, they give the best combination of flavour, throat hit and vapour that I have tried so far. But with my next batch I will be paying a lot of attention to the advise Jason gave above.
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Post by blakey on Dec 6, 2011 9:29:12 GMT
One other thing to remember with these is that if the air holes at the battery end are restricted then when you suck through the drip tip it creates a vacuum within which causes the juice to get forced into the internal tubing filling the top well plus when you Finnish the draw all the juice in the tube will leak out through the air intake holes, this seems to be the cause of most of the leaks. Personally, I love em, great flavour and long lasting. The only one that packed up on me died cos I screwed it in too tight and it shorted out.
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Post by Scylla on Dec 6, 2011 13:00:30 GMT
I The plugs are a pain though. It is so easy to lose them through them springing out of tweasers and flying across the room! Kev of FreedomVape suggests using a well-soaked* wooden cocktail stick - cut off about 1cm and use it pointy-end first to replace the little black bung. *I forgot to soak it and couldn't get it out after it had soaked up juice duh!
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Post by kingsley on Dec 7, 2011 2:03:39 GMT
I The plugs are a pain though. It is so easy to lose them through them springing out of tweasers and flying across the room! Kev of FreedomVape suggests using a well-soaked* wooden cocktail stick - cut off about 1cm and use it pointy-end first to replace the little black bung. *I forgot to soak it and couldn't get it out after it had soaked up juice duh! Oo, I must get a pack and try this! Sounds like a really good idea. Besides, even if it doesn't work for me I can always use them as tooth picks I must add that, having paid notice to Jason's advice I have had absolutely no problems with either of my two remaining Smokeymizers today (even the one that had started to show signs of leaking on filling) and think I probably was overly hasty in binning the other two leaky ones. Still you live and learn and given the 5 pack barely cost more than I was paying every two days for rolling baccy a few weeks ago they are definitely worth persisting with for the time being.
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Post by jambutty on Dec 9, 2011 10:04:46 GMT
I recently got some smokymizers, managing them nicely.
However, I've found that using them with the Tornado is fine but if I use them with the pass-through the taste is quite different. Are they not meant for use with the latter?
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Post by blakey on Dec 9, 2011 10:09:35 GMT
I recently got some smokymizers, managing them nicely. However, I've found that using them with the Tornado is fine but if I use them with the pass-through the taste is quite different. Are they not meant for use with the latter? The tornado runs at 3.7v ish, if the pass-through is 5v then the smokymizer will struggle to wick the juice fast enough.
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Post by jambutty on Dec 9, 2011 12:05:26 GMT
It seems to vape ok but has a somewhat 'cooked' flavour, not burnt exactly, maybe the voltage is the problem then.
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Post by Perpetua on Dec 9, 2011 12:49:17 GMT
If your Smokeymiser is a Low Resistance Jammy, then the PT's higher voltage is probably to blame if it's 5v's.
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