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Post by mikemichelle on Dec 21, 2014 22:51:01 GMT
Oooooh! I thought dual coils were meant to produce a "better" vaping experience as in warmer and producing more vapour?
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Post by lairey on Dec 21, 2014 22:54:58 GMT
They do when it comes to the stock factory coils, but a single microcoil wicked with cotton wool will outperform and outlast any stock coil single or dual
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Post by mikemichelle on Dec 21, 2014 23:05:32 GMT
They do when it comes to the stock factory coils, but a single microcoil wicked with cotton wool will outperform and outlast any stock coil single or dual Now I'm confused! I thought there were only two options ie single coil or double coil? Now you've introduced a new "thing" to me ... a single microcoil better than a single/double coil!??? Just when I thought I was getting my head round things!
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Post by chykensa on Dec 21, 2014 23:13:51 GMT
OK, here goes, I'll try to make this as simple as I can (only so I don't confuse myself!). The stock (shop-bought) dual-coil heads that you buy have 'open' coils, where the wraps of wire don't actually touch. Two coils are better than one, as it spreads the load of the power from the battery, meaning that they last longer. A microcoil is constructed so that the wraps all touch (by heating the coil and squeezing the wraps together using tweezers) and they are virtually indestructible. A good microcoil will last at least 6 weeks, if not a whole lot longer, and just requires a dry burn (where you remove the old wick and pulse the power to the coil until it glows red). Then you can rewick with a choice of materials (I prefer rayon, some prefer cotton). These wicks will last the best part of a week, and once you know the procedure take only a couple of minutes to rewick. If you can, get along to a vapemeet so someone can show you how easy it is, and the techniques for rewicking too.
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Post by mikemichelle on Dec 21, 2014 23:21:16 GMT
OK, here goes, I'll try to make this as simple as I can (only so I don't confuse myself!). The stock (shop-bought) dual-coil heads that you buy have 'open' coils, where the wraps of wire don't actually touch. Two coils are better than one, as it spreads the load of the power from the battery, meaning that they last longer. A microcoil is constructed so that the wraps all touch (by heating the coil and squeezing the wraps together using tweezers) and they are virtually indestructible. A good microcoil will last at least 6 weeks, if not a whole lot longer, and just requires a dry burn (where you remove the old wick and pulse the power to the coil until it glows red). Then you can rewick with a choice of materials (I prefer rayon, some prefer cotton). These wicks will last the best part of a week, and once you know the procedure take only a couple of minutes to rewick. If you can, get along to a vapemeet so someone can show you how easy it is, and the techniques for rewicking too. Thanks AndyB for a great explanation. So am I right in thinking that all you very experienced guys are using single micrcoils?
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Post by lairey on Dec 21, 2014 23:23:11 GMT
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Post by lairey on Dec 21, 2014 23:24:40 GMT
OK, here goes, I'll try to make this as simple as I can (only so I don't confuse myself!). The stock (shop-bought) dual-coil heads that you buy have 'open' coils, where the wraps of wire don't actually touch. Two coils are better than one, as it spreads the load of the power from the battery, meaning that they last longer. A microcoil is constructed so that the wraps all touch (by heating the coil and squeezing the wraps together using tweezers) and they are virtually indestructible. A good microcoil will last at least 6 weeks, if not a whole lot longer, and just requires a dry burn (where you remove the old wick and pulse the power to the coil until it glows red). Then you can rewick with a choice of materials (I prefer rayon, some prefer cotton). These wicks will last the best part of a week, and once you know the procedure take only a couple of minutes to rewick. If you can, get along to a vapemeet so someone can show you how easy it is, and the techniques for rewicking too. Thanks AndyB for a great explanation. So am I right in thinking that all you very experienced guys are using single micrcoils? Pretty much... it can get more advanced, but for most of us, microcoils are plenty good enough and anything else will just confuse you even more!
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Post by chykensa on Dec 21, 2014 23:25:38 GMT
mikemichelle - I use microcoils in everything - Protank heads, Kayfuns, drippers and all my other atties too. They are easy to construct, durable when mounting, and they perform so much better than anything else *stands back to avoid flak from experienced vapers*. There are many tutorials on YouTube, and they are really not as difficult as you might think. Worth meeting up with someone to see one being made, makes all the difference, and you can ask questions as the procedure unfolds. Shame you don't live in Cornwall
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Post by Greg on Dec 21, 2014 23:27:42 GMT
OK, here goes, I'll try to make this as simple as I can (only so I don't confuse myself!). The stock (shop-bought) dual-coil heads that you buy have 'open' coils, where the wraps of wire don't actually touch. Two coils are better than one, as it spreads the load of the power from the battery, meaning that they last longer. A microcoil is constructed so that the wraps all touch (by heating the coil and squeezing the wraps together using tweezers) and they are virtually indestructible. A good microcoil will last at least 6 weeks, if not a whole lot longer, and just requires a dry burn (where you remove the old wick and pulse the power to the coil until it glows red). Then you can rewick with a choice of materials (I prefer rayon, some prefer cotton). These wicks will last the best part of a week, and once you know the procedure take only a couple of minutes to rewick. If you can, get along to a vapemeet so someone can show you how easy it is, and the techniques for rewicking too. Thanks AndyB for a great explanation. So am I right in thinking that all you very experienced guys are using single micrcoils? Or even dual microcoils
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Post by mikemichelle on Dec 21, 2014 23:27:56 GMT
mikemichelle - I use microcoils in everything - Protank heads, Kayfuns, drippers and all my other atties too. They are easy to construct, durable when mounting, and they perform so much better than anything else *stands back to avoid flak from experienced vapers*. There are many tutorials on YouTube, and they are really not as difficult as you might think. Worth meeting up with someone to see one being made, makes all the difference, and you can ask questions as the procedure unfolds. Shame you don't live in Cornwall So .... will a microcoil go in a Mini Protank 3?
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Post by lairey on Dec 21, 2014 23:34:07 GMT
mikemichelle - I use microcoils in everything - Protank heads, Kayfuns, drippers and all my other atties too. They are easy to construct, durable when mounting, and they perform so much better than anything else *stands back to avoid flak from experienced vapers*. There are many tutorials on YouTube, and they are really not as difficult as you might think. Worth meeting up with someone to see one being made, makes all the difference, and you can ask questions as the procedure unfolds. Shame you don't live in Cornwall So .... will a microcoil go in a Mini Protank 3? yes, but because the MPT3 is dual coil, the wick channels in the side are bigger than in the single coil heads so you will need to add a second piece of wick above the coil to fill the channels so they don't leak. Don't throw your old used heads away
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Post by Greg on Dec 21, 2014 23:36:58 GMT
mikemichelle - I use microcoils in everything - Protank heads, Kayfuns, drippers and all my other atties too. They are easy to construct, durable when mounting, and they perform so much better than anything else *stands back to avoid flak from experienced vapers*. There are many tutorials on YouTube, and they are really not as difficult as you might think. Worth meeting up with someone to see one being made, makes all the difference, and you can ask questions as the procedure unfolds. Shame you don't live in Cornwall So .... will a microcoil go in a Mini Protank 3? Yes you can modify the dual coil to take single Microcoil or if your feeling adventurous dual coil it but the latter is a bit of a faff for little gain in my opinion. Ive never been a fan of dual coils in such a small head and found little advantage in them. if you fancy recoiling probably best to start with a single micrcoil in a protank 2 or Evod head as per the link lairey posted above
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Post by mikemichelle on Dec 21, 2014 23:38:36 GMT
So .... will a microcoil go in a Mini Protank 3? yes, but because the MPT3 is dual coil, the wick channels in the side are bigger than in the single coil heads so you will need to add a second piece of wick above the coil to fill the channels so they don't leak. Don't throw your old used heads away Ok thanks Lairey. Information overload so I'm ejecting for the evening. I need to go away and ponder the meaning of life and all this info and decide which way I want to go. A HUGE thanks to all for such great help and advice (as always)!
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Post by chykensa on Dec 21, 2014 23:59:22 GMT
Some advice I picked up recently; when recoiling a dual-coil Protank head, simply insert a slim cocktail stick in the slots (this raising the coil slightly in the aforementioned slots) before adding your single microcoil and this does away with the need for a faffy flavour wick on top. I haven;t actually tried this yet as I'm waiting for my wife to kill a DC Protank head, but once she does I will try this and report back!
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Post by mikemichelle on Dec 22, 2014 0:05:56 GMT
Thanks AndyB. Actually while Googling, I came across another Vape Forum and they have a YouTube video on how to recoil a Kanger dual coil with pre-made coils (bag of pre-made coils for a "few quid"). They claim the process is easy. I wasn't sure if I'm allowed to post the link on here?
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